JohnGotti

The aching behind is a valid point. On that I would agree. However, after being told "no" and "stop" several times and yet still having someone place something in your anus "without your consent" would be assault in the West. On that we will have to agree to disagree.

Agreed.

I'm just smh! Obviously, I'm missing something. Here's my dilemma. Your "boyfriend" shows up at your house, berates you for leaving his house, "assaults" you with a suppository, and embarrasses you in front of your parents. Now, even if we chose to disagree as to whether the "suppository" scene was rape or sexual assault (and it would be in the West), at a very minimum could we agree that what occurred was "extremely humiliating and degrading", especially when done by someone who just told you "he likes you." IMO, in a few eps, Phayu went from "cool" to "creep."

Interesting point!

I agree. In two episodes, Phayu's character went from "cool" to "creep."

Agreed. However, I have a gay Thai friend (whom I often consult with on these matters) and he told me that in his experience, "it's exactly like it sounds," with the "wifey" performing those roles associated with a "female wife" in Thai society. The "wife" in Thai society is often subservient to the husband, must follow his commands, and be sexually subservient to him as well. But, he said that is steadily changing. He also said that many Thais often associate the "wifey role" with that of "femboys and ladyboys," which he says are very common in certain areas of Thailand (especially Bangkok). He stated that most of the lgbtq+ men that he knew were "versatile." Granted this only one gay Thai person's perception, and I give him the benefit of the doubt of knowing his culture better than I.

Agree!

Yep! You're right!

Ok. I'll say it straight out. This ep, IMO, would've been soooo much better if they'd left out two scenes: 1) the forced suppository scene (Rain said "no" and there it should've stopped); and 2) the hubby/wife thing (Geez). Now, this is classic Mame!

Thanks! I enjoyed it as well. And yes, I also liked Diary of Tootsies.

Again, agreed. I too, have no problem with both consenting to the seme/uke stuff and are ok with it.

Agreed.

Well, you know rape is more about "power," "dominance," and "control" versus sex. And, unfortunately, that is one of the main cornerstones to the whole "seme/uke" phenomena, and folks are cashing in on it at the expense of the lgbtq+ community, IMO.

Although I liked KinnPorsche, I had serious issues with both relationships (KP and PV).

Well, I did finish Book 1 and Book 2, mainly because I wanted to see Bai Yo Lin get some "payback" on Gu Hai for what he did to him. The whole scene was sickening.

P.S. Mame has gained a lot of popularity for her "alternative" view of BL. She seems to equate rape and sexual violence as part of the BL relationship (especially the trope of falling in love with your rapist). However, what continues to fascinate me is the number of folks who "really get off" on that sort of thing. BDSM between consenting adults is one thing, falling in love with someone who brutally sexually raped and violated you AND romanticizing it as "normal" is quite another, IMO.

I wouldn't be surprised!

Yeah, Addicted was far more brutal and graphic in the novel than it was in the series, Book1 and Book 2.

Really. Interesting!

Good point. I wonder what that scene is actually like in the novel. Knowing Mame, it was probably a pretty brutal scenario for Rain. Anyone know for sure?

Agreed.