If they are nicely done, why not? And lately there have been so many different material to watch so if you don't…
True. You can always watch something else. However, the blue shorts to black slacks trope is like having a pb&j sandwich. You can change the bread, change the jelly and peanut butter. You can even add fruit. But, it will still just be a pb&j in the end.
Curious? Have either the director or actors had any experience in a BL. I know they have experience in action dramas. And, I know the director had a bit part in Bad Buddy. But, what experience other than that?
It will be really interesting to see if this series lives up to the hype. We've been disappointed before, when a series had great trailers and bad stories...
I think the series is trying to portray Hia in a more favorable light. I'm not sure that it will blank out what he's already done. But, I do have to admit, it's showing a "better" side of him. He's still a manipulative bas**d, though.
Not everyone will like every series. Personally I am enjoying it and it’s an easy watch. I try not to take things…
True. Not everyone will like every series. Also true, there have been some bad series in the last couple of years. Finally true, great cinematography, music, actors, etc. There's no disagreement there. I actually like the show. I really do.
However, it just seems that when there is a BL series that starts out with lots of potential, it snaps back to using stereotypes, tropes, cliches, or toxicity, etc., to "sell" the series, instead of using what I just said to make a quality series.
Just because the novel may have been really "out there," doesn't mean the series has to be also. There's no hard and fast rule that the series has to exactly follow the novel. Some series are actually better than the novels they're based on.
This series is something else. It's weird, occasionally hard to follow with the "a bait and switch" in almost every scene between Toh and Nuea. Once and awhile is ok, but every other scene begins to make the show seem ultra silly. This series reminds me of "What the Duck." It has that "feel" to it. I'm not sure that's good or bad. LOL
I've been trying to wrap my head around this arranged marriage part of the storyline??? Now, arranged marriages in Southeast Asian cultures are not uncommon (even today), especially among aristocratic families. However, an arranged marriage between two males??? Now, that's different! I'm not going to say it's never occurred, because, honestly, IDK.
This makes me wonder if Nuea's parents saw him as like being their "daughter" versus their "son." That would explain the arranged marriage issue and the story would make a little more sense. I've not read the novel, so again, idk. Even if it were the case, it wouldn't change the toxicity or other issues noted in the series, IMO.
I really don't like this show. I mean I hate all Uke Seme tropes so it was pretty predictable that this wouldn't…
I'm speaking for myself (although I wouldn't be surprised if others might agree). I hear ya loud and clear. But, I think all of the posts, comments, folks getting upset, folks loving the toxicity, etc. is all part of the experience of MDL (or any other media for that matter). I believe most people actually enjoy viewing other posts or posting their own comments, be they good or bad, agreed with or not agreed with. Otherwise, why even come to MDL? Yes, some of the comments are at times "really out there." Yes, some of the comments are really insightful. And yes, some comments are just to get under someone's skin. But again, it's all part of the experience of coming to MDL.
Now, I'm not quite sure if I agree that no one believes that "same sex relationships work the way it's portrayed in BL anyway." The truth is that the media (almost any media, and especially social media) has an enormous ability to influence, even to the point of convincing many people to believe what they see or hear in the media is "real." This happens with nearly "all" genres and with nearly "all" cultures that have access to media. Finally, as for "toxicity in BL NEVER going away," that remains to be seen. BLs have come a long way in just the past few years, who knows where they'll be in the next few years.
So, I say just enjoy the experience, because it going to be one hell of a ride!
I'll start off by saying what I've said before: I have no issues with writers utilizing toxic behavior and whatnot…
I agree with BadPennyGirl, your comments did have panache. Wow! Such a chic word. Although I do have a problem with toxicity in their stories, mainly this is because, IMO, it's not on a level playing field, I'm always willing to give the series a chance to see where they go with it. When I speak of a level playing field, I mean, in non-BLs, yes there's toxicity, but often not to the same level, intensity, and degree as in BLs.
Yes, this ep. bumped the level of creepiness, and IMO, cruelty as well. Very perceptive point about Kuea "trying to wiggle free of Lian's grip," and the actions Kuea took after that. But, unfortunately (and somewhat accurately) this is a common behavioral response displayed by victims in abusive, controlling relationships. So, if this was the intent of the series to make that point, they did so very effectively. But, "redeeming" Lian will be a tall task, especially with the level of "cruelty" displayed by him in forcing Kuea to leave his home. The scene in the car was devastating, as it appeared Lian has some idea how this was hurting Kuea (by his crying) and yet did nothing!
I also agree that Yi doesn't seem as bad as Lian nor as bad as he was presented in the first few eps. As I stated earlier, there is at least some context as to "why" Yi is controlling and overprotective. IMO, he's been downgraded from a total a**hole to a simple bu**hole.
The Sin, Nuea, Kuea stuff is a bit much for me to even attempt to address. However, Sin does have big issues with an invasion of personal space, especially related to Thai culture.
Yes, Jay gave Kuea some good advice. But, Jay also allowed Kuea to leave his club very drunk with someone he's already told no. It didn't matter if it was Lian -- Remember, Jay indicated to Kuea he didn't know who Lian was, and yet Lian was one of his VIP customers. There's a real creep for you.
Finally, total agreement on the visuals, cinematography with Diao's bike scene, and the car scene with Kuea and Lian. Spot on. Congrats!
I'm not sure if you're right or wrong. But, any good drama usually has a death of a main character at the end.…
True. But, maybe there will be a cliffhanger for season 2. This show has sooo many unanswered questions that realistically can't be resolved in a single ep., unless they do a "special or movie."
However, it just seems that when there is a BL series that starts out with lots of potential, it snaps back to using stereotypes, tropes, cliches, or toxicity, etc., to "sell" the series, instead of using what I just said to make a quality series.
Just because the novel may have been really "out there," doesn't mean the series has to be also. There's no hard and fast rule that the series has to exactly follow the novel. Some series are actually better than the novels they're based on.
This makes me wonder if Nuea's parents saw him as like being their "daughter" versus their "son." That would explain the arranged marriage issue and the story would make a little more sense. I've not read the novel, so again, idk. Even if it were the case, it wouldn't change the toxicity or other issues noted in the series, IMO.
Just some random thoughts! LMBO!
Now, I'm not quite sure if I agree that no one believes that "same sex relationships work the way it's portrayed in BL anyway." The truth is that the media (almost any media, and especially social media) has an enormous ability to influence, even to the point of convincing many people to believe what they see or hear in the media is "real." This happens with nearly "all" genres and with nearly "all" cultures that have access to media. Finally, as for "toxicity in BL NEVER going away," that remains to be seen. BLs have come a long way in just the past few years, who knows where they'll be in the next few years.
So, I say just enjoy the experience, because it going to be one hell of a ride!
Yes, this ep. bumped the level of creepiness, and IMO, cruelty as well. Very perceptive point about Kuea "trying to wiggle free of Lian's grip," and the actions Kuea took after that. But, unfortunately (and somewhat accurately) this is a common behavioral response displayed by victims in abusive, controlling relationships. So, if this was the intent of the series to make that point, they did so very effectively. But, "redeeming" Lian will be a tall task, especially with the level of "cruelty" displayed by him in forcing Kuea to leave his home. The scene in the car was devastating, as it appeared Lian has some idea how this was hurting Kuea (by his crying) and yet did nothing!
I also agree that Yi doesn't seem as bad as Lian nor as bad as he was presented in the first few eps. As I stated earlier, there is at least some context as to "why" Yi is controlling and overprotective. IMO, he's been downgraded from a total a**hole to a simple bu**hole.
The Sin, Nuea, Kuea stuff is a bit much for me to even attempt to address. However, Sin does have big issues with an invasion of personal space, especially related to Thai culture.
Yes, Jay gave Kuea some good advice. But, Jay also allowed Kuea to leave his club very drunk with someone he's already told no. It didn't matter if it was Lian -- Remember, Jay indicated to Kuea he didn't know who Lian was, and yet Lian was one of his VIP customers. There's a real creep for you.
Finally, total agreement on the visuals, cinematography with Diao's bike scene, and the car scene with Kuea and Lian. Spot on. Congrats!