idontwanttothanks

Yes. Jojo said on twitter that it's based on 10 Things.

I wasn't going to watch this one because I read the novel and HATED it, but well. FOMO and all that.

But I will say this: if you had told me two months ago that I would be way more invested in Fadel and Style than in anything Kant and Bison are doing, I would have laughed in your face. But here I am, loving Fadel so much that I can hardly stand it and really rooting for him and Style (I kind of love Style too he's insane and I think Dunk is doing a great job) but caring very little about KantBison as a couple or individually.

I mean, Kant is fascinating to me, and just makes me wish I could see First playing a true villain. I expect people will hate him (I remember how bad it got with Sand during OF and he wasn't even a tenth as cold as Kant is, lol), but I do not. I am gleeful that he's actually way less invested than people want him to be. Right now the only thing that man cares about is his baby brother, and I love it. I did not expect it at ALL I want to study him like a bug.

I feel about Bison about how I expect most people feel about Kant: don't really care. Not sorry. 😝

But Fadel. He's so GREAT and Joong is doing so well. I was never impressed with him before this but now I am, I am SO impressed, if this story goes the same direction as the novel I might actually keep watching anyway just for him.

Well thank god. I couldn't care less about the lineup for next year lol.

They're not gonna do something stupid like postpone the next ep til next week for GMMTV 2025 are they?

But also I'm genuinely surprised how fast this show made me turn around on Ken. I think it is how hard he and the twins are fighting for each other - Ken is being stupid and thinking he's protecting them, and they are just desperately trying to get him to accept their help. I love how much they care about each other - it was kind of unexpected because I'm used to the bullies all hating each other, too.

I also think that it did a great job of showing with very little why Ken might have gotten caught up the way he did in the first place, and why he feels so trapped now with no way out. The actor playing him is doing a great job.

I don't think that's necessarily true. Something can be wrong and yet still understandable. Joker should not have stolen the ring. Save should not have given a bunch of people horrible investment advice so that they could be more firmly under Boss's thumb. Hope and Jack shouldn't have done some of the stuff they did while acting as Boss's debt collectors. But al of it was understandable.

I think that people regularly let their sympathy for a character make them decide that they are always right and thus anyone who upsets them is wrong. Or their dislike make them harsher on actions that they aren't as harsh on other characters about. But for me, even if I am furious I try to see where someone is coming. Personally I'm maddest at Save right now, but is he mor at fault than anyone else who did horrible things to get out of debt?

In the end the real issue is Boss. I really hope they don't pull some last minute "oh but he has reasons too" out. Because I do think at some point the reasons stop mattering. Boss isn't being threatened with death or worse if he doesn't do these things, after all. No one has his arms pinned behind his back and his face in the dirt.

I agree with you that Jack has every tight to be upset. He just found out that pretty much everyone he's been trusting lately is working to sabotage not just him but his community. And then he finds out that the reason Boss is untouchable now is because of Joke, right on the hells of his pseudo daughter being chucked off of a building. It's normal and right that he feels some kind of way about all of this. Especially since he was saying earlier that Joke wasn't stealing anymore, so it couldn't have been him that took the ring. It's blow after blow after blow right now.

I feel for Joke too - he did what he did for love and the price is already too high.

Yeah! I have heard that he likes to play on words too but that international fans like me can't quite get exactly how eloquent he is because some of the stuff he says can't be translated. I've always noticed how sweet he is, too, always rushing to praise others. Just a lovely person. ❤️

I kinda love that Khaotung was almost backhandedly complimenting Dunk ("Joong is so effortless, Dunk works hard") and First burst in like the Kool Aid man all "No I got this I'll take care of the compliments."

They're both lovely etc, but I am happy First took the reins to praise Dunk here because I see this weird sort of "one is talented, the other puts in work" a lot and it always feels like a subtle put down, lol. Like work ethic is great but also how about saying they're actually good at their job? And since Dunk gets shit on more than Joong I am more sensitive to seeing it done to him. And I love that First made sure to mention that Jojo thought so, too.

Ooh have you seen Wake Up Ladies? I keep debating that one because I've seen gifs and First's character is so expressive it kills me. Every face he makes is a reaction gif I swear. Plus Namtan who is one of my favorites too.

Nothing can make me watch The Shipper though. I wonder if they'll put one or both of them in an ensemble again this year - probably not a BL but maybe in one of those giant shows with a million guest stars GMMTV likes to do every year - think Peaceful Property, Midnight Museum, Home School. Something like that.

I think that they're both good at doing new things with roles that could be kind of samey. Which is great, but also I just hope it's not gonna become a habit that First gets stuck playing the LI to Khaotung's more dramatic characters every time. He's really really good at being subtle and I'm fascinated by his face and how it makes like 800 micro expressions and the way his eyes can convey a half dozen things at once but I do think that a lot of the hate he gets for being "unable to act" or "unable to keep up with Khaotung" are because of it. I'd like to see those people have to eat their words because I am petty. 🤣🤣

Do you mean Only Friends not The Heart Killers, since THK hasn't even started airing yet? Then again who knows lol maybe. Pretty convinced that that's happening though.

Um. I don't know if I want them doing My Beautiful Man. Maybe they could just not?

I am a First fan first and a human second, lol, and I do sometimes wish that they'd let First play the meatier roles again - he was so phenomenal as Sand but it was such an understated role and not the kind of thing that gets recognized, meanwhile Khaotung is always handed the big dramatic roles lately. And he's good at it, but I'd like to see it switched up.

But one thing GMMTV does not like to do is mess with what works, so I doubt that will ever happen. Cynically I think First will mostly play the love interest with no real meat to chew. Not that he won't make something of it anyway, he's amazing, but well. Akk sorts of roles for him are long gone, I think.

I do like him and Khaotung paired together - they work well together and have good chemistry and they clearly like working together. We'll see what the future holds.

My rule of thumb with all these shows is that as soon as I find myself not having fun, I'm out. I did it with OF and it made my experience a lot better.

People like to pit him against Khaotung It's nuts because they're both good, just because you like one more doesn't make them better. They can both be good in different ways! It's like how people pit the ships against each other here - it's so weird to me.

I actually quit going into the Only Friends page because it got so nasty. People just don't know how to be chill lol. I worry it will be like that for this one, too. I hope not.

You know what's funny? He and Khao performed Let's Try live and First hit that one high note perfectly. So he's definitely been practicing. :D

I almost felt like they did it to him on purpose in Only Friends but I don't know why they would.

I think in OF a lot of people got mad about the Boeing stuff and instead of keeping their anger to the character started attacking First. It was a lot. It will never not amaze me that people can be so awful about him (his voice, his acting, even his Kant tattoos) when he seems like one of the sweetest people alive (and also is an amazing actor, when people say he can't act I'm so baffled).

I fully agree. I don't get what it is about First but people get so mean about him sometimes. Some of things I was seeing during Only Friends about him baffled me.

And yeah, I felt even worse for him when he was talking about knowing he's not great and how nervous he gets when he has to sing. Like he's not unaware of his own limitations, but I also think they make him sing in a vocal range he's not actually comfortable with and that I can't figure out. I really hope that for the OST they let him do something that really suits him. ❤️

Why are you like this?

I can already tell no amount of "improvement" will be enough for your no doubt amazing standards. Leave me out of it please, I prefer to have a good time and not be sour.

Thanks much!

They've been given some horrible scripts. But I think that they're gonna shine here...especially Dunk. Thy dynamic is gonna be changed up and I really think it'll be good. I also found their other shows kind of boring, so when I say I believe that this one will be different I really believe it.

I'm happy but also...people were so nasty about his singing in OF.

I don't think it was ever supposed to be super serious - Jojo has said from the beginning that it's a romcom, think 10 Things I Hate About You. And in my opinion the trailer was mostly unserious.

I am down for that personally. One, I've seen FK cry too much in the last couple of years. I know it's their thing but I personally want something different. Two, I think that this style (heh) plays to Dunk's strengths in particular and I am really excited to see what he does here. And three, I am just in the mood for it. I will be disappointed if it's too serious.

Can I just say you are one of the most patient people I've ever seen on here? I don't think that I could repeat myself as much as you have to all the time without losing it. Mad respect.