idontwanttothanks

Maybe they're eager to announce some second seasons...🤞

Me tooo. I think he's gonna get pics of more than one hot night, though. :D :D

Finally some real messiness out of this show - Irin and Hack are a full on disaster and I am unexpectedly into it.

Florence is the best. I love her already even if she is a little high handed. Can't wait to see where she and Nathee wind up.

I'm starting to lose faith in my evil Hunter theory, although Mix is still killing it. I want to know what he thinks he's doing though, constantly meddling in.

...I haven't really lost faith in my evil!Hunter theory.

I want Sand and Top to be bitter exes so badly, you have no idea.

Well I think that Boston fits the Brian mold only in that he likes to have sex with lots of strangers and doesn't believe in relationships. But if there is in fact a comparison to be made I don't really think it goes much farther than that. Nick is certainly no Justin. And yeah I see a little bit of Justin in him too in that apparently his one night with Top rocked his world so much he can't get over it.

Unless (and this is my opinion) this is actually less about Top than it is about Mew. And no, not some unrequited love deal (please god no Ray and Top are enough), but more a competition. If Boston sees Mew as the antithesis to everything he is - the foil to his bad boy, don't care about anything but getting off and getting gone persona - then his fixation on Top makes a lot of sense. Because if he can get Top away from Mew, get him to want him and to take what he's offering even as he works to lock Mew the ideal into a relationship, then Boson wins.

Sorry I have a lot of Boston thoughts. :D

I saw people comparing Top to Brian Kinney, but I thought if we were gonna do the comparison it is clearly Boston, lol, even though it's not really that close.

I feel like a weirdo in that I actually find whatever is going on with Ray (and by proxy RaySand I guess) to be the most compelling thing the show is doing right now, but not the romance stuff. I'm very curious how they're gonna handle the alcohol problems, and how that is' going to damage all of Ray's relationships - I think we already see a little bit of it, how his friends would rather let him do his own thing than deal with him drunk. I can't help but wonder how it'll play into his relationship with Sand, I am less into the Mew thing with him, but different strokes.

Now for romance stuff, Top and Mew have me caught. I am loving watching their push and pull and I can't wait to see what happens when shit hits the fan, so to speak.

We haven't seen Mew yeet Boston into the pool yet. That is something I am really looking forward to. :D

I also think that they might be trying to showcase some class issues around Sand and Ray, but that's more nebulous to me. Right now I think Ray paying for Sand's time and company is going to come up again mostly so that Ray can skewer Sand, lol. Sometimes mess is just mess. But sometimes it isn't.

I'm unsure what you are aiming for yourself, tbh. This is two episodes in; it's quite possible that the themes are going to become more apparent as we go on. Also I think some of the themes are already pretty clear: addiction, manipulation, living fast and hard because you can go at any point (and though we haven't gotten there yet because again, two episodes in, I think the consequences of doing so). I think that most of us are expecting it to have a message or several because Jojo, but even if it didn't, that would be fine too, honestly. I don't see why it has to have one to be good.

I don't think that anyone claimed that this is an accurate and realistic depiction of an entire group of people, aside from you.

And last, who cares if it's not new? Although I would argue that the way that Jojo and co are working to marry a more honest depiction of a certain type of queer life with your traditional BL is a fairly new thing. They aren't the first - I think Moonlight Chicken has done this in it's way, and I Told Sunset About You before that - but it's not something that is done often.

You don't have to like the show or the acting - plenty of people here complain about both, lol (I myself think both are great - each actor is serving what needs to be served for the characters they are playing *at the present* and I for one am enjoying myself immensely), but I hope if you continue to not have fun you find something that better fits whatever standards you have. That's what I hope everyone who winds up not being into this drama does, tbh.

Ooooh my god.

*That* could be what that sinister music and him smirking at a photo of Mew and Ray was all about - there is no evidence because whether or not you believe that Mew is aware of Ray's feelings (I think yes, lots of people think no), he's done nothing to make anyone think he wants him back, let alone anything that can be photographed. Maybe Boston doctors something up - is that too soap villain? I don't even care I'm into it.

and frankly forcebook just sounds better to me. I don't hold with whatever trips people up about shipnames I go with what sounds good (If I use the shipname at all, which frankly I don't really like to do in the first place as I prefer to talk about the roles, not the actors) .

Alphabetical!

This was a very good episode.

As suspected, Charn was careening so hard towards his power and money dreams because he's absolutely terrified - of changing, of the fact that he wants to change, of feeling anything at all. But it's too late for him. He's been steadily breaking pretty much since Tinn barged into his life, and now I don't think there's any putting that old soft hearted person back in the box. Which doesn't mean he won't still have a streak of ruthlessness to him, of course - I just think it'll be softened.

And put me in facepaint and call me a clown, but I don't believe for a second he's doing anything horribly nefarious by sending Thatthep that photo. Oh yes, the music wants me to think so for sure, and so does the preview, but there's just something about the whole thing that makes me think Charn's pulling some self-sacrificial move here. Maybe I'm wrong, but I have to say I'd be disappointed if he backslid that much after his breakdown this ep, and I just can't see it happening. I think he's sticking his neck out so Thatthep focuses on him and not Tinn and Tinn's family. I also think that that wild night he was talking about with Rose was the night he participated in the burning of the village, and the arm around his waist was Thatthep's.

Speaking of, that flashback was so painful and makes so much sense, really. I think we all knew that Charn's mother had been killed and that's why he's steadily been carving out the part of himself that he thinks got her killed - the idealist, the believer in justice and fairness and doing what is right. But also he immediately went and did the most awful thing he could think of - not only getting his own back against the people who hurt him, but routing the villagers and chasing them out of their homes, destroying the very people he'd sworn to help. It's like he decided to do the worst thing possible so nothing he did after would matter as much. He was trying to burn away his old self as much as he was the village.

He's just so fascinating to me. I love him. Awfulness and all. I don't think he'll ever be truly *good*, but that's fine. I also very much worry that either he or Tinn won't make it out of this, and while I do think that if Charn dies Tinn will eventually be okay, I do not think the reverse holds true.

And okay, fine. FINE. They finally got me with Thaenthai. The way he immediately flipped to utter sweetheart the second he was away from his awful father...okay yes I finally believe there's a good guy in there. And I'm finally seeing some reciprocation of Thee's obvious feelings, which seems fast but also, maybe he's always loved him but again, oppressive household where he has to act a certain way. And now dad is going to figure out that if he hurts Thee it will hurt Thaenthai more than if he just took his ire out on him as usual...I wish we'd gotten this dynamic sooner, honestly.

But at this point I'm past thinking that there's any way to get rid of Thatthep short of death. Tinn won't get the justice of a prison cell, not from someone that powerful. No way in hell.

Is it Saturday yet?

You never know. They're clearly playing around with the established couples - stranger things have happened, I'm sure.

It's all good! no need for apologies whatsoever.

Huh? I wasn't replying to you but to the guy you replied to.

And also I never claimed it wasn't my opinion. Please don't be offended I mean no offense. I agree that they heavily marketed SandRay anyway - F & K sell right now and it seems pretty clear that they are gonna be the most dramatic of the three couples - it's been said over and over again that they spend a lot of time fighting and crying, lol. I'd market it that way too, we want people to watch! :D

Have you not said you're mostly here for forcebook or was that someone else?

I think it's entirely normal for people to have their favorites, the problem is when it gets nasty when those favorites aren't getting screentime or aren't endgame, etc

Personally I am not watching for any one ship even though I WILL talk about SandTop at any and every opportunity, lol. I have said before and will say again that I will be very surprised if any of the OG ships wind up together.

I will confess that I am a little disappointed that they didn't bring in another GMMTV BL Boy (TM) for Boston to sleep with, though.

I wouldn't bet on it, frankly. Ray knows what he wants from Sand, and it ain't his heart.

Yeah that's pretty much where I am with Mew. He thinks he knows how the game is played and to a point, he does. But he's forgetting that feelings are messy and illogical and that's gonna trip him up.

I have a feeling he's gonna go as toxic as the rest of them fast. And probably screw up way more than anyone else so far (he's gonna take a wrecking ball to everything and I am...well maybe not ready but definitely seated and waiting, lol)

yep this is how I see it, too. First has one job at GMM, and that's to rip our hearts out roughly once a year. So he's right on schedule lol.