Hey! Just a quick clarification, "bury your gays" trope refers to when writers quickly write characters out of…
And btw, I still ranked this show high as I think it was done beautifully. I’m just pointing out that whenever lgbt characters are portrayed realistically (and not in the classic BL manner) in East Asian shows, it usually ends up in a tragedy
Hey! Just a quick clarification, "bury your gays" trope refers to when writers quickly write characters out of…
I disagree. Shows using the “bury your gays” trope also often feature a lgbt couple where one of them dies, signifying that lgbt people will never find true happiness, only temporarily. Buffy‘s Tara&Willow as a classic example. Does it mean lgbt-themed shows can’t feature death of one’s soulmate? Of course not, but such tragedies are much more common when dealing with lgbt couples.
tbh, it's a little exhausting by this point. I feel like we are just watching the epitome of stereotypical gay dating. Everyone, older men as well, mostly approach the same conventionally-attractive, young-ish guys, and based on looks only. Honestly, I can just go on grindr and get the same experience - no need to watch a whole show displaying what I already know about gay dating.
I feel you 😑 I understand that the chemistry between them (or not) is discussed, but prejudging them by the…
Thanks! I didn't even think about the production ignoring the top/bottom/verse issue, I got mad reading the comments lol Sometimes I wonder whether the fact bl and yaoi have become so widespread in Asia actually helped normalize being gay (while ignoring bi, lesbian and trans people of course), or whether it just reinforced harmful stereotypes of how a relationship between two men who love men should look like.
I honestly don't understand some of the comments here. These are real people we are talking about, not characters from your favorite bl, so the yaoification that goes on here is annoying and even a little bit toxic.
For example, as an actual gay man, I don't understand the "shipping" of Chankyu and Changmin - other than them fitting perfectly into the bl-type relationship, with one partner being more submissive and fragile while the second is more dominant and masculine, they (so far, and imo) make zero sense together - no chemistry, no common interests, etc
Another user submitted the change with an explanation and it was approved. 😊
I think the "gay supporting character" tag should have been left though - Salbyul's former master is definitely gay and interested in him, it's pretty much a key point in the plot line and mentioned a few times throughout the series. It's just that (it seems, I haven't watched the last two episodes yet) there isn't a gay romance.
Have you watched the last two episodes though? in order to approve the new tags the mods need to know what do…
That's good to know! I once got a warning I might get banned if I continue submitting changes without explanations (after a few times doing so), so ever since I try to include thorough explanations + other sources if available.
Ro-a is definitely not presented as straight, and it's clear he's interested in Ji-Woo from EP1. Whether they…
Perhaps. But even if Ro-a and Ji-woo don't end up together in the end (which I doubt it from the way things were presented, I just don't understand how it will play out convincingly in only 4 episodes), it doesn't mean there won't be gay romance. There's also Ro-a's roommate.
This was marketed as a BL. This is 95% straight romance at 5% of a guy possibly liking another guy.
Ro-a is definitely not presented as straight, and it's clear he's interested in Ji-Woo from EP1. Whether they get together in the end is a different question, but I wouldn't say it's straight romance. imo, it's a bit more realistic (so far) than most BLs I've seen.
Does it mean lgbt-themed shows can’t feature death of one’s soulmate? Of course not, but such tragedies are much more common when dealing with lgbt couples.
Sometimes I wonder whether the fact bl and yaoi have become so widespread in Asia actually helped normalize being gay (while ignoring bi, lesbian and trans people of course), or whether it just reinforced harmful stereotypes of how a relationship between two men who love men should look like.
For example, as an actual gay man, I don't understand the "shipping" of Chankyu and Changmin - other than them fitting perfectly into the bl-type relationship, with one partner being more submissive and fragile while the second is more dominant and masculine, they (so far, and imo) make zero sense together - no chemistry, no common interests, etc
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