jaydeejay

No problem!
I find his character to be very interesting. I think the both of them would be cute, but YEAH....plus what he's trying to do with Thanu and Wayu and now Wayu more than likely blames Phai.....yikes.

Tong was asked by Sab, I think, to tutor Pok because his grades were low. We found out later on that Pok managed to basically get a scholarship to the university, but his grades were still low and Tong was worried about them. There's a scene where Tong finds what looks like a ransom note in his gym locker stating something along the lines of "Do as a I say. The president cheated". Later on, Tong asked Pok to meet him at mall that was kind of far away for their little get together celebration for the both of them getting into the university. However, for some reason (I don't quite know why myself), Tong purposefully kept him waiting while Galae would go and check to see if Pok is still waiting. Eventually they learn that Pok was beaten up in the bathroom, and when they go to look, he's bleeding and his arm looked pretty injured. According to Pok, the thugs said to ask Tong why he was getting beaten up. He ends up missing the swimming competition that he was so sure he'd get first place in.
Some time later, we learn that Galae saw Sandee put the note in the locker and that's why he's helping Tong- however, I don't think Tong told him what the letter said? Tong approaches Sandee about the whole mess, and he learns that Sandee found out that Tong switched his(Sandee) and Pok's exams and that's why Pok managed to pass. However, we also learn that Sandee's fake grade was also an A, meaning that Pok would've passed if Tong didn't do what he did. Tong also says he randomly switched the exams and didn't target Sandee specifically. Sandee doesn't care and is pissed that he even did that in the first place. Sandee revealed that he thinks Pok AND Tong are working together, but in reality, it was just Tong. Tong corrects him and says it was just him all along, but Sandee also doesn't seem to care that he injured an innocent person. Sandee threatens to expose Tong to Pok in which Tong shoves him and walks off. Pok notices there's *something* going on between the two, but has no idea what. Pok, at one point, gets mad at Sandee for being super vague about whatever is going on.

Sorry for the wall of text, haha, but here it is!

I absolutely agree! And I don't think you nor anyone else is wrong for thinking that at all.

I do think it being pretty basic is kind of a plus though at the same time. I do love me some angst and drama and complex stories, but one that is simple and easy going is nice to consume every so often; it's definitely great for those who don't like dramatic stories, like the new show Not Me. I'm in the middle of watching 4 (about to 5) BL dramas, and all of them can be heavy at times (or all the time). So having this as a little palette cleanser is really nice.

Them rushing the plot this episode around was a little disappointing though, I will agree.

But forreal though, my real review of this episode kinda aligns with what a lot of others are saying: the moment I saw White Hoodie Guy had a gun, I KNEW they were gonna pull some overdramatic plot where Wai ends up helping/saving Pat somehow and that's more than likely how they amend things. I personally dislike it when stories pull stunts like this *just* to build up drama. There are other ways to do so, and for this show, it felt wayyy too dramatic. They, of course, pull back from the seriousness by revealing that Pat was only grazed by the bullet and then 5 seconds later, he doesn't get arrested because Wai had that video, but still. The show is very lighthearted which is a big plus in my opinion, so if they were trying to go for shock/plot twists, it fell flat because everything else before this episode was already so lighthearted. It kind of reminded me of the last 2-3 episodes of Don't Say No where they really tried to build drama but instead it was a very nonsensical mess. BUT this episode definitely wasn't as bad as DSN. Just similar in concept.

Also YES the product placement was all over the place this episode. The worst so far in the series BUT definitely not as bad as some other shows.

Now, Wai being so stubborn and not apologizing doesn't surprise me at all and I actually quite like this decision! There are some people who are just like that unfortunately and I feel like it's fitting for his character. I don't expect him to apologize/try to make amends until like...the last episode tbvh.

Also, people point out Wai and Korn.......same. SAME. Except Wai is an asshole, so maybe not. But I'm SO HAPPY that Korn was super chill about Pat and Pran 😭

idk if they had names, and if so, i didn't catch them, but uhmmm....white hoodie guy and his buff teammate need to make an appearance in another show lmao

IDK why mullets/80s hairstyles are back in fashion in east asian countries (lookin' at you, kpop!!) but omg it kills me lmao

Yes, all of that! Here's some more additional info that I feel will be very relevant to in S2 (spoilers for S1!!)

Pok heavily suspects that there's *something* going on between Sandee and Tong due to the little fight they had when Tong confronted Sandee about the message he left in Tong's locker (the one saying the president cheated); Pok witnessed the part when Tong shoved Sandee, but not the conversation prior to that. There's a scene when Pok is with Phai, Sandee, and Sab (I think) helping Phai unpack in his dorm and one of them asks why Tong isn't there. Pok says something like "Well, it's because...." and looks over at Sandee and proceed to approach him asking him what happened that day. Sandee answers VERY vaguely and that upsets Pok. There's also another scene prior to the previosly mentioned one where Pok notices Sandee and Tong exchanging weird glances at each other and you can tell it bothers Pok. At some point, Tong and Phai exchange words privately amongst each other, and Pok notices this too but doesn't hear anything they say. He questions Tong about it, but Tong doesn't hear him cuz he was blowdrying his hair.

All of the freshmen characters got to randomly select their buddy/mentor and Tong just so happen to get Thanu as his buddy, which is VERY interesting to me.

That's so interesting!! I'm one of the fans who only watched the show and didn't pay attention to any of ghe outside stuff, and yet I wasn't surprised they had a whole voting thing for the show. Pretty typical in the entertainment biz tbvh. But I ain't mad at it for this show. Thanks for clearing it up!!

Yes, exactly! I'm definitely not dismissing that. I think this theme was put together as a way to make sense of what ended up feeling like a very sudden switch from Phai to Wayu. But what's also interesting is that there is a strong hint of Sandee/Phai at some point in episode 1; I wanna say it was the characters' introductory scene no less. Which make me further wonder what their intentions are going to be with Sandee.

No problem!! I really like Sandee's character a lot; I was also afraid he was going to be evil just for the sake of being evil, but then I remembered that honestly? Love makes some people do some CRAZY things. And having Sandee deal with things the way he does is very interesting to me. I rewatched parts of S1 recently, and it was wild, in retrospect, seeing that it was him that came up with the idea for the whole Define Your Love thing at the cafe.

IDK if I should put this under spoilers since it's for S1, but:

So Thanu/Wayu and Thanu/Phai are about two different types of love: Thanu/Phai is based off of a common trope in romance where two people, who know nothing about each other, are expected to fall in love because of destiny or whatever. If you remember, Phai wasn't all in that interested in pursuing Thanu in the beginning until Sandee kept mentioning that it's fate because of some coincidences that would happen between Thanu and Phai. Thanu was interested at first, but once he started getting to know Wayu more and more, he decided he wanted to be with him and not Phai, who was someone he didn't even know. The problem with the idea of two people being together due to fate is that they are basically forced to be together even if there's no chemistry between them. Thanu/Wayu's love is based off of someone getting to chose who they want to be with, rather than who they are made/forced to be with. Thanu and Wayu have been getting to know each other at first as friends but then something stronger. The execution of these ideas were bad, I will agree with that, but the concept is very good in my opinion.

Now about Sandee: If you remember the first few scenes between Sandee and Phai, it was kind of obvious that Sandee had feelings for Phai. Now, you're probably wondering: why doesn't he go after Phai instead of helping Phai go after another man? Well, there's another theme to Phai's character/story, and it's that if you love someone, you are willing to make sacrifices for them. Phai loved/had a crush on Thanu, but in order to make Thanu happy, he helped Thanu pair up with Wayu because that's what Thanu wanted. That was his way of sacrificing himself to help his loved one become happy. Sandee is doing the same exact thing for Phai, but maybe he doesn't realize it? He wants Phai to be happy, so he's willing to attempt to destroy Wayu and Thanu's relationship for Phai. Sandee has some extreme ways of dealing with things, such as sending men to beat up Pok and Tong (but they only beat up Pok). So him stealing the drawing and secretly giving it to Wayu as a way to break Wayu and Thanu up is his weird way of helping Phai.

If you google PokTong scenes, you'll find a youtube account that has cuts from the episodes they appear in. Except there are some scene missing, but it's a good start.

YES I agree with everything in the first paragraph. I couldn't find the right words to say it, but that's what I like about Wayu and Thanu being a thing rather than Phai and Thanu. It's a really good message, imo, especially since a very common trope in BL is "love at first sight" which I'm honestly sick of and never liked.
And that's what I like about Wayu's character too, both in S1 and S2 so far. But I also know a lot of people tend to hate emotionally open male characters, so I'm not surprised that most people don't like him.

I, however, did NOT expect them to pull the whole "Oh, Pha is sick" story omg. I don't care for plot twists like that, mostly because they do make me uncomfortable. I do think it's interesting that it's Mark and Kit that I guess finds out what's going on with him. But I'm REALLY hoping that whatever potential drama stirs up between them isn't due to Wayu's situation anymore, like what happened in S1. I think it'd be nice for them to have their own lil thing going on, like how PokTong isn't all that connected to Wayu's story, only by a mere string (Sandee).

I really like Pha's actor and hope he gets a role where he gets an actual love interest and they actually stay together lmao If he has such a role, let me know!
As for the rest of episode: tbvh I don't mind the amateur acting. I've seen a fair share of Thai BL dramas with similar acting; if anything, I'm just glad they're trying to make more of these BL stories despite the amateur actors.
The editing felt off at times, specifically towards the beginning with the recaps. Wayu, Thanu, and Pha's story seems like it's gonna be way more dramatic that I thought...which I'm not totally crazy about. I want more of PokTong's story and a little more focus on whatever the heck is going on with Sandee. Poor Phai...oh jeez.

I don't have VPN, but I do have VIP and it's not there yet

We have to do this to watch it on iQiyi ):?

I'm not arguing either :)! I recent rewatched some of the episodes- the first 5 episode since I stopped watching it the first time at ep4 (when they strongly hinted at Phai, who was still in high school, and Thanu, who is a college student, possibly being a couple). Now, I never saw 2moons (which people are saying are similar/Gen Y is a continuation...?) nor have I read the novel that I believe Gen Y is based off of, so I could totally be wrong too! And you are SO right about the writers not knowing what they were doing LMAO

But with the underage thing: based off of what they show us in S1, Pha is a 3rd year college student and Thanu is supposed to be a 4th year but is retaking his 3rd year. Thanu is the 2018 Beau, Pha is the 2019 Beau, Mark is the 2020, and then one of the new Freshmen characters will be the 2021 Beau. When Wayu met Pha (and unknowingly Thanu), he was in high school, hence the uniform (the pink top and blue shorts) he was wearing in the flashback where Pha was raining red rose petals on him from above. And I believe when he fainted and it was Thanu that took him to the medical tent that Pha was working in, Wayu was still in high school as well. It's very unfortunate that adult/minor stuff is shown in this show, but also unfortunately, this isn't the first show I've seen that has had some of it in their story ): As I stated before, I really like a lot of the concepts in this show, but that totally ruins it for me, which is why I stopped watching it originally. But I came back because some of the characters/mysteries (who is Pha, what happened between Padbok and Thanu, etc) were very interesting to me.

About Wayu being a regular guy: tbvh, I wondered if they were all rich kids lol. But no, what I meant by "regular" is that he's just some guy (who's very cute imo) who loves love and romance and can't get a decent boyfriend apparently. I would say that him and Phai are very similar characters in that they're both sweet, simple (nothing wrong with being simple) characters who can't really catch a break for whatever reason. Like, at first I was like "Phai can't get Thanu, at least he has Sandee" but then Sandee did what he did and it's like....poor Phai omg.

Edit: And it seemed to me that Phai wanted to be with him because he kept bringing up the flashforward memories and would basically be like "see? That's proof that there's *something* there, right?" and even though eventually Thanu wasn't interested in being with Phail any longer, he kept going to places with him, like the part in ep11 (I think) when Phai wanted him to go with him to the cafe he used to work at. In that scene, it was revealed that basically Phai's new definition of love was something along the lines of sacrificing yourself for the one you love, meaning he was willing to let Thanu go even though he (Phai) liked him. That's how I took it, anyway :)

But yeah! Seeing other people's thoughts on the situation is interesting to me, especially how messy the writing got at times.

I think Phai being underaged wasn't an issue at all considering that in the overall story, Pha went after Wayu when he was still in high school and Thanu and Wayu had that whole "if we knew back then, then we definitely would've been an item (even if you were underaged at the time Wayu lol)".

I think the issue with Thanu is that despite his intentions towards both of them, his actions still affected Wayu and Phai and it did feel like he was leading them both on. Even Kit at one point pointed that out and basically said that if he really doesn't feel that way towards Wayu, then he should stop (this was after Mark and Kit kinda broke up and Kit decided to clean his hands of the whole Pha/Wayu/Thanu drama). Or how he kept entertaining Phai's destiny ideas and going to specific spots with him to talk about thier visions even though he said he wasn't going to pursue this anymore- basically giving Phai some false hope. Not to say that none of this doesn't make Thanu an interesting character! Padboj *did* mention (I think Jack did too?) that Thanu's never been interested in dating- he's definitely a mysterious character, imo.

And I do agree with that about Wayu, however I also think that's actually what makes him interesting to me: the fact that he's just a regular guy who, like everyone else, wants a regular relationship but he can't seem to get that. Pha, out of no where, breaks up with him and doesn't explain himself at all; I've never been through that, but that must be SUPER frustrating to go through. And then once he's finally getting over him, the guy he's now interested in tells him "oh yeah, I was sticking around you cuz your ex, who's also my bestie, asked me to lol BUT I'm actually interested in you...! While also running around with someone else in the background that you aren't aware of lol" Which is why I think it'd be great if someone who wasn't flakey would date Wayu and they have a happy ending 😩 But yeah, I can see why some people would dislike/be annoyed with Wayu, definitely.

I personally don't have that mush issue with Thanu/Wayu as I do with Thanu/Phai, but for me the biggest issue with Wayu, Thanu's and Phai's story was how poorly executed it was? It felt like the story wasn't prewritten, but rather they were writing it as the episodes were being shot and were making last minute decisions . I don't mind the whole "destiny" theme, them having these lil flashbacks and flashforwards moments, the lil twist being that Wayu actually fell for Thanu and didn't know it- the concept is really good! But dear god it felt forced and out of place. After the stuff Thanu put Wayu and Phai through, they deserve someone better lmao. But if I had to choose between Thanu/Wayu and Thanu/Phai, I would choose the former.

(side note: If Phai was older and not a minor when the whole thing started between him and Thanu, I wouldn't be as grossed out about the two of them together. But even if their ages were fine, Phai deserves a better love interest imo.

I'm very much Team Wayu and Phai Deserve Better Love Interests and Team Thanu Needs To Figure His Shit Out. )