What does homoerotic subtext mean anyway? I often see it in Chinese drama tags
Well stated. It's not bromance, the sub-context does the heavy lifting. 'Precise Shot' is also another Chinese censored BL that's a great example of this.
What does homoerotic subtext mean anyway? I often see it in Chinese drama tags
Usually, making actors look at each other a certain way. Or for example, a character saying 'He's mine' while it could mean anything, using it in a way that lets the viewer draw the conclusion that said character is in love with the other. Therefore implying, but doesn't specifically state that the characters are in a non-heterosexual relationship.
While the comments are full of 'Best BL!', it's not. It relies heavily and entirely on 'subtext', therefore not making it any different from any other censored Chinese BL works.
Where this show differs and why it gets its praise is simply because it tries to see how far it can push boundaries, before getting slapped down by Chinese authorities. That bothers me a lot.
In the end, the show increasingly made me anxious, I only later realized that it reminded me of days when it was safer to stay in the closet. I felt dread for the actors' sake, in the end making for a very uncomfortable watch that I just could not finish.
I’m confused as to why platforms like GagaOolala even support and promote so many Chinese-censored BL’s. It defeats the platform's own message.
Guess I'm one of those idiots that enjoys something completely different. I liked it. It has more to tell than, and is more thought out than a lot of recent Thai shows. If you like shows like Bed Friend, this won't be for you, but if you found Bed Friend to be derivite nonsense, I'd say give this a try. It really does not deserve this low rating. At worst it's a 7.5 and only because I disliked Gun's overacting.
Weird timelines, an episode with no context and a baby in 60 minutes or less. The lack of cohesiveness in the show is staggering. The editing is off. Scenes just stop with no follow-up. Characters react to things that the audience is not informed of. The MC is an emotionally immature child that literally lucks out, and has a character arc that goes nowhere. And to top it all off, the finale just forgets that it is supposed to be a final. There is no definitive ending, some plotlines are left open and unfinished and the show feigns ignorance about most of what it was originally about.
Any other recent BL's that you felt tanked on MDL, but are worth a watch? I have quite a few I skipped, but I'm…
'Destiny Seeker', despite the bad subs (although better than some other shows), is a great watch. A few things get lost in translation, but the acting, the leads, and the chemistry between the cast are great.
Personally found it a much better and more engaging story than 'The Eclipse'. I've stopped looking at the ratings or reviews on here. For some reason, people create negative echo chambers on other forums (Reddit) and bring that same energy here.
The majority of Korean shows that have been released this year, on average, are making Thai shows look like amateur hour, yet they get rated much lower than their counterparts.
What an amazing show. Considering it's length and how much they are able to tell in such a short period of time, is always something that surprises me when it comes to K-bl. South Korea is kicking butt and taking names, so much so that I don't even want to put them in the same category as Thai or J BL's. They are in a league of their own. I'd even go as far as saying that if you want more mature shows, South Korea are leading. Fantasy are Japan's domain and the more 'accessible' and easy watch shows are Thai. Only one Thai show has surprised me so far this year and that was Destiny Seeker. The rest reclycle the same plot.
I see the trolls from the reddit forums showed up again. This was funny, smart and did not take itself too seriously. As for the'harassment' comments? Wow, people just love making something out of nothing. On another note, people seem to assume that the guy did not pick up guys on the app. He likes the guy, thus sleeps with him. Stop clutching those pearls. Reading the comments it's apparent a lot of people did not watch the show or did not pay attention at all.
Yet another show that just proves never to trust ratings or reviews on mydramalist. It's a beautifully crafted show. Its got adults actually behaving like adults. It did flub a little and actually needed two more episodes, but again, the negative reviews here makes no sense (unless you're 16 years old and never experienced real life). Definitely might have been an easy 9 if it was a little longer.
Watch for yourself. Not for the commenters on here.
How a show with this kind of subject matter, comes across as inane and just boring is surprising. It does not need to do anything but stay true to the subject matter, but it even fails to do that. The acting is subpar, the sound design is awful, characters are one dimensional and several episodes are just filler. Situations feel forced instead of flowing organically. Itt standing around like a clueless lemming during weird uncomfortable pauses is cringe inducing. I loved Unforgotten Night for it's pure entertainment value. It may not have been the best, but it kept me entertained. This version of Day and Itt pales in comparison to the previous, and sadly lacks the depth that shined through in the few episodes they were featured in UN.
Apart from the subtitles, this show is actually one of the better Thai BL releases this year. It has a kind of sincerity that has been lacking from the latest batch of shows. Bank and Earth's chemistry? The way Songkhram looks at Ai is intense. Even acting wise it's better than some of the bigger releases this year. It is sweet and down-to-earth. Yes it has issues, and the editing is problematic, but I have to give the studio and actors props for making a much more palatable show on a lower budget than most of the bigger studios' offerings so far this year. As for the subtitles, while bad, it's not nearly as atrocious as 'Bed Friend'.
In all honesty, the first two episodes had me wondering if I've already watched this before, but then the full cast gets revealed and the show really starts to shine. I do not like romance thrown into the mix in this type of setting or show, as it usually derails the plot, but here it was done right. And yes Jayden is great, but it is the interaction and differences between him and the much more reserved Yi Han that makes the show so good.
General word of warning to future viewers.Great show, but the finale makes the show irrelevant.
A lot of posters are saying people are unhappy because the ending differs from the webtoon. I was not even aware of the webtoon. I would have been fine with the finale if it was not for the huge plot holes, the main being that Hyun Woo as Do Joon knows when he is going to die, to the point that Hyun Woo was traumatized by Do Joon's death. But as Do Joon, he had no idea this was how he died. Hyun Woo did not know the part he was going to play in Do Joon's death but had the fortitude to record the call. Hyun Woo openly admits to being an accomplice in Do Joon's death but suffers no repercussions. Hyun Woo is suddenly portrayed as a bad guy and then immediately gets redeemed. And finally, to all the posters saying that it was a dream, Hyun Woo openly, in the end, confirms that he was Do Joon.
I didn't understand the thought in the screenwriter's head. Mum doesn't like Dew in his own world, he loves Dew…
I agree with every single point you make. The fact that Mum causes the death of the Dew he loves (when saving Mint) just gets thrown by the wayside. The show is 10 episodes about the Mum in one universe and the Dew in the other universe, to even consider this a happy ending, when one of the characters die is just ludicrous. He literally ends up replacing the guy he loves with one that looks like him. Then it gets even more idiotic when the third Mum shows up out of nowhere and claims that it is his diary that Dew found.
yeah this show is sadly falling flat for me. I feel like it all has to do with the writing. Thing weren't thought…
There are instances where his acting skills are good, but they are so few that I do have to wonder if the director just allowed him to get away with the bad scenes. Again, the whole martial arts scene in the bedroom comes across as something that Ohm wanted to do, and they just indulged him.
While every other actor in the show comes across as believable, Ohm and Fluke are just so strangely awkward with each other. Am I the only one that noticed? As for the whole parallel dimension/timeline plot. Tackling something this ambitious needs very clear rules. You have 3 very different timelines. If you arbitrarily change one to suit an episode, the whole premise falls apart. Sadly, the show, whilst the premise is great, suffers from Ohm and Fluke's awkwardness, the show not following its own rules, and Ohm's cringy acting (what on earth is that fake cough, and don't even mention that 'martial art' performance with the clear body double).
Ignore the negative reviews, if you want something more than the run-of-the-mill 'BL', this show offers more than boy a accidentally falls on top of boy b. Its exploration of 'you get the love you think you deserve' is truly well done. I loved the fleshed-out characters, the quirks, the understandable human actions and yes, even the ending.
'Precise Shot' is also another Chinese censored BL that's a great example of this.
Therefore implying, but doesn't specifically state that the characters are in a non-heterosexual relationship.
Where this show differs and why it gets its praise is simply because it tries to see how far it can push boundaries, before getting slapped down by Chinese authorities. That bothers me a lot.
In the end, the show increasingly made me anxious, I only later realized that it reminded me of days when it was safer to stay in the closet. I felt dread for the actors' sake, in the end making for a very uncomfortable watch that I just could not finish.
I’m confused as to why platforms like GagaOolala even support and promote so many Chinese-censored BL’s. It defeats the platform's own message.
I liked it.
It has more to tell than, and is more thought out than a lot of recent Thai shows.
If you like shows like Bed Friend, this won't be for you, but if you found Bed Friend to be derivite nonsense, I'd say give this a try.
It really does not deserve this low rating.
At worst it's a 7.5 and only because I disliked Gun's overacting.
The lack of cohesiveness in the show is staggering. The editing is off.
Scenes just stop with no follow-up. Characters react to things that the audience is not informed of.
The MC is an emotionally immature child that literally lucks out, and has a character arc that goes nowhere.
And to top it all off, the finale just forgets that it is supposed to be a final.
There is no definitive ending, some plotlines are left open and unfinished and the show feigns ignorance about most of what it was originally about.
A few things get lost in translation, but the acting, the leads, and the chemistry between the cast are great.
Personally found it a much better and more engaging story than 'The Eclipse'.
I've stopped looking at the ratings or reviews on here.
For some reason, people create negative echo chambers on other forums (Reddit) and bring that same energy here.
The majority of Korean shows that have been released this year, on average, are making Thai shows look like amateur hour, yet they get rated much lower than their counterparts.
South Korea is kicking butt and taking names, so much so that I don't even want to put them in the same category as Thai or J BL's.
They are in a league of their own.
I'd even go as far as saying that if you want more mature shows, South Korea are leading.
Fantasy are Japan's domain and the more 'accessible' and easy watch shows are Thai.
Only one Thai show has surprised me so far this year and that was Destiny Seeker. The rest reclycle the same plot.
This was funny, smart and did not take itself too seriously.
As for the'harassment' comments? Wow, people just love making something out of nothing.
On another note, people seem to assume that the guy did not pick up guys on the app.
He likes the guy, thus sleeps with him.
Stop clutching those pearls.
Reading the comments it's apparent a lot of people did not watch the show or did not pay attention at all.
It's a beautifully crafted show.
Its got adults actually behaving like adults.
It did flub a little and actually needed two more episodes, but again, the negative reviews here makes no sense (unless you're 16 years old and never experienced real life).
Definitely might have been an easy 9 if it was a little longer.
Watch for yourself. Not for the commenters on here.
It does not need to do anything but stay true to the subject matter, but it even fails to do that.
The acting is subpar, the sound design is awful, characters are one dimensional and several episodes are just filler.
Situations feel forced instead of flowing organically.
Itt standing around like a clueless lemming during weird uncomfortable pauses is cringe inducing.
I loved Unforgotten Night for it's pure entertainment value. It may not have been the best, but it kept me entertained.
This version of Day and Itt pales in comparison to the previous, and sadly lacks the depth that shined through in the few episodes they were featured in UN.
It has a kind of sincerity that has been lacking from the latest batch of shows.
Bank and Earth's chemistry? The way Songkhram looks at Ai is intense.
Even acting wise it's better than some of the bigger releases this year.
It is sweet and down-to-earth.
Yes it has issues, and the editing is problematic, but I have to give the studio and actors props for making a much more palatable show on a lower budget than most of the bigger studios' offerings so far this year.
As for the subtitles, while bad, it's not nearly as atrocious as 'Bed Friend'.
I do not like romance thrown into the mix in this type of setting or show, as it usually derails the plot, but here it was done right.
And yes Jayden is great, but it is the interaction and differences between him and the much more reserved Yi Han that makes the show so good.
I was not even aware of the webtoon. I would have been fine with the finale if it was not for the huge plot holes, the main being that Hyun Woo as Do Joon knows when he is going to die, to the point that Hyun Woo was traumatized by Do Joon's death. But as Do Joon, he had no idea this was how he died.
Hyun Woo did not know the part he was going to play in Do Joon's death but had the fortitude to record the call.
Hyun Woo openly admits to being an accomplice in Do Joon's death but suffers no repercussions.
Hyun Woo is suddenly portrayed as a bad guy and then immediately gets redeemed.
And finally, to all the posters saying that it was a dream, Hyun Woo openly, in the end, confirms that he was Do Joon.
Great show, but the finale makes the show irrelevant.
The fact that Mum causes the death of the Dew he loves (when saving Mint) just gets thrown by the wayside.
The show is 10 episodes about the Mum in one universe and the Dew in the other universe, to even consider this a happy ending, when one of the characters die is just ludicrous.
He literally ends up replacing the guy he loves with one that looks like him.
Then it gets even more idiotic when the third Mum shows up out of nowhere and claims that it is his diary that Dew found.
Perfectly done.
10/10.
K-Bl's just keeps getting better.
As for the whole parallel dimension/timeline plot. Tackling something this ambitious needs very clear rules. You have 3 very different timelines. If you arbitrarily change one to suit an episode, the whole premise falls apart.
Sadly, the show, whilst the premise is great, suffers from Ohm and Fluke's awkwardness, the show not following its own rules, and Ohm's cringy acting (what on earth is that fake cough, and don't even mention that 'martial art' performance with the clear body double).
Its exploration of 'you get the love you think you deserve' is truly well done.
I loved the fleshed-out characters, the quirks, the understandable human actions and yes, even the ending.