What is with SBS cutting scenes out of dramas and then releasing them afterwards?! Apparently important scenes…
Here are a few that I found on Youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHn_isd5ZSY&list=WL&index=68
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcdun3AXZ7I&list=WL&index=70
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAzlGKJBgu8&index=73&list=WL
What is with SBS cutting scenes out of dramas and then releasing them afterwards?! Apparently important scenes were cut out of the first two episodes (which were shown in the Director's cut). First Moon Lovers and now this drama too >:
I love the both nostalgic and comedic feel of this drama so far. The characters are intriguing, Jeon Ji Hyun and Lee Min Ho have good chemistry, and the cinematography is beautiful. I'm already loving several of the OST's, too.The first two episodes didn't disappoint and I'm so excited for more ^-^ ❤
For the past 2 months, this drama just became part of my schedule on Monday's and Tuesday's. Now that it's over, I just feel so empty T-T Even listening to the OST's give me the feels all over again. My withdrawal symptoms have probably never been this bad. I miss Wang So so much...I just miss everything ;-;
I will never forget Lee Jun Ki's beyond amazing portrayal of Wang So. He deserves every single award. He is without a doubt, one of my favourite actors and I hope for only the best in his future projects ♥
I didn't think I could get any more frustrated, but then episode 19 happened.
I can understand why So is hurt by the fact that Soo loved Wook. So has never payed attention to the other romantic links that Soo has had to the other princes (he even thought Soo liked Baek Ah at one point) and he has always only focused on making Soo his. Now that So's hate for Wook has grown so much, it is reasonable that just the thought that Soo loved Wook makes him angry enough to cast her away. I just wish that he had found out about Soo and Wook's relationship much earlier. It seems like the writers are desperately separating Soo and So using any means possible. It is just so tiring to watch So get hurt over and over again by the people that he loves. He's gone through so much and he deserves to be happy. :(
However, strangely enough, I felt sympathy for Wook during his last conversation with Hae Soo. In those minutes alone, he was sort of able to redeem his character. He put his selfish thoughts and ambitions aside, telling Soo to forget it all and live happily. It doesn't justify all the horrible things he's done, but it made me think of how sweet and caring he was in the beginning. I liked that they decided to leave Wook and Soo without any bad blood. It was a bittersweet goodbye between them, and that was a pleasant surprise.
On the other hand...the writer's are driving me crazy with Hae Soo's way of thinking. They easily could've connected: Hae Soo realizing she was the reason for all the Prince's deaths to her wanting to leave the palace because so she did not hurt anyone else, especially Wang So. Instead, they made Soo a selfish character, making her leave the palace for her own sake and leaving So brokenhearted.
I don't know how they are going to wrap everything up in tomorrow's episode, and they didn't give us a preview either >:
PLEASE WRITERS, JUST LET SOO AND SO MEET IN THE FUTURE AND LIVE HAPPILY EVER AFTER TT^TT
It's strange that I never thought of this till now, but it's very possible that Hae Soo's trust issues with Wang So may have been influenced by her broken relationships in the modern day. Before she came to Goryeo, her boyfriend AND her best friend betrayed her and took everything away from her. That explains why Hae Soo is able to love, but she is not always able to trust. Regardless of the situation, it always seems like she harbors doubt inside of her. This doesn't completely justify all the frustrating things her character has done, but it may be one of the factors.
Her painful "past life" is also a decent explanation as to why she was able to adapt to Goryeo so quickly- because she wanted to escape the pain of the life she had before and start over by living the life of someone else. In a way, that's also very sad because she's not able to escape pain and betrayal in the modern day, or in Goryeo :(
I guess it really comes down to the fact that while Hae Soo's presence can change HOW the events in history came to be, she cannot actually change that the events will occur. In history, Gwangjong did in fact marry Yeon Hwa, so there really was no avoiding this. It was quite smart of them to use the scar as the reason why Hae Soo couldn't become Queen.
However, it's just so frustrating that we were robbed of those crucial years where their love actually grew to become mutual and honest. Now it has just gone back to more things tearing Soo and So apart when we barely got to see them happy together in the first place. There are so many things that should've been brought to light earlier, like Chaeryung's betrayal. That way it wouldn't have had to come between Soo and So NOW, when there's only 2 episodes left.
The future for the two of them looks grim, and at this point a tragic ending (and Hae Soo's death) is pretty much inevitable. The only thing I'm hoping for is that they can spend their last moments together and somehow find their way back to each other in the present day. Please writers, that's the least you can do after this whole mess ;^;
I don't think that 3 episodes is enough either. I would be so happy if a sequel were to be made and set in modern-day Korea. Hae Soo and Wang So wouldn't have to go through so many obstacles to be together then T-T
However, I will forever hold a grudge against SBS for bringing this drama down due to the horrible editing. If a sequel really is made, the editing better be top notch. All the cast and crew deserve it >:
Episode 16 might be cancelled tomorrow due to yet another sports game. (If so, it'll probably be aired on Tuesday) Last week, even though the episode did air, the viewership ratings dropped. I'm sure some of the audience didn't watch because they weren't sure when the sports game would end and if the episode would air at all. I can't help but be frustrated that these events are always jeopardizing Scarlet Heart's episodes T^T
ajfoiasjfsdoija as if one week's wait isn't enough we might have to wait an extra day too ;-;
This comment on dramabeans is very lengthy, but it's such a great, in-depth analysis of the main characters and what their personalities represent in terms of "love". This was just too good not to post \^0^/
102 pineappleGongzhu October 12th, 2016 at 8:51 AM
Different Forms and Phases of Love
While ML:SHR marketed itself (poorly, IMO) as a flower boy drama, I would like to argue it reveals different forms and stages of love as depicted via our heroine and 4 of the 8 princes.
Eun (στοργή – love/affection as for a child): while Eun experienced an unrequited love from HS, he represents that first bloom of love that children experience as they move towards adolescence. HS characterised him appropriately as “pure.” Child-like, perhaps even childish, but nonetheless sweet and innocent. This is mirrored in his marriage to Soon Deok. While it could be argued the delay in marriage consummation was because Eun is a blockhead, it also shows the “innocence” of their love. The fact that Soon Deok doesn’t know how babies are made confirms this child-like purity of their love.
Baek Ah (φιλία – love, but in friendship between equals): this is a true friendship built on honesty (he confronted her about her affair with Wook), mutuality (their love for Lady Hae), common beliefs (when discussing – drunk – the hierarchy of palace politics). I find it adorable that he tries to play reconciler (episode 8), finding out everyone’s favorite drink and snack so Su can make amends with So. And then, of course, he continues to bring them together (So’s poem to Su in episode 14).
Wook (ἔρος – desirous love): the passionate love you hope aren’t just in fairytales. It appears as if it were true, defying conventional (or even perceived unfair) relational restrictions. It’s swoony. It’s full of promises, romantic gestures, gifts, and stolen moments. He promises the world, but in the end, when push comes to shove, he chooses something else (call it his ambition, his family, his personal interests) over his love. It’s not that he doesn’t love her, but he will always love something else over her; in a way, he will always put himself first.
Wang So (ἀγάπη – the love between a husband and wife): the epic love that lasts a lifetime, hard fought and sorely won – AND only proven true AFTER the fact. This is the one that gives up everything for the beloved: he risks everything for her: be it defying an arranged royal marriage, drinking poison, supporting her in protests, defying the king AGAIN when the king didn’t hold up his end of the bargain for So to be an envoy, even paying homage to a traitor to protect her. He thinks of her best interests above his own. He even wants her freedom above his own.
It’s a love the brings out the best in them. Su brings out the best in So, she brings out his full potential by lavishing on him the most basic amount of love that he has hungered for his entire life. He provides for her (however unappreciated in the beginning) the kind of steadfast faithfulness and devotion she has never experienced in lover or female friend. It’s the one that haunts our dreams because it is what we all want: the soul-deep intimacy and understanding between two spirits of like mind, heart, and vision. It grows out of genuine friendship, trust, truthfulness, fidelity, and selflessness. It’s beauty lies in it’s utter self-giving for the good and flourishing of the object of love. I think one could argue that within Wang So, he embodies all of the different loves in appropriate and passionate form. His love for Hae Su is pure and child-like, they talk openly and vulnerably like friends, but he is passionate for her (his eyes are only towards her), and to top it all off, he is willing to die for her.
Hae Su: she’s the faithful lover until the end of time. I mentioned in an earlier post that she is loving to emo-wolf princes, loyal to disloyal prince charmings, and kind to dying kings who tortured her. She cannot NOT love. It defines her. She embodies love and unity, the kind that families are supposed to be bound by. She dislikes Yeon Hwa, but she has NEVER lifted a finger against her. She defends herself against YH’s hostility, but she never attacks her, even when YH threatens to make her full of regret.
I know that we are all sad that Wang So/Hae Su’s love story has taken so long to build, and it’s never uncomplicated. It’s always a little bittersweet. There’s always something wrong or in the way (2nd male leads, torture, pitiful niece-brides, scheming half-sisters, envoy duties, futuristic visions)…but I think that is what makes their love EPIC.
It’s a love tested in the fiery furnaces of affliction – and comes out stronger as a result. It’s not a love that develops in the coziness of soft fluffy clouds, but the steely kind of love that faces raging storms of all kinds, determined to return home.
Found another great comment on Dramabeans. I think it summarizes the storyline and Hae Soo's purpose in Goryeo…
No problem at all :) I actually really enjoy looking through all the comments on dramabeans. It amazes me how many intelligent theories different fans have regarding events that are happening in the episodes, and they clarify a lot of the character's motives too *-*
Found another great comment on Dramabeans. I think it summarizes the storyline and Hae Soo's purpose in Goryeo very well *-*
4.1.4 Yoyo October 11th, 2016 at 7:21 PM
Two things:
1. The writers aim is to convey that history is an inconvenient truth. While people disregard key points in history (“learn from our mistakes!”), they always manage to go back to it and regretfully ponder those “what if” moments. History acts as a constant reminder that people will do anything and everything to survive.
2. Changing a person, won’t change what’s destined to happen. While we can all agree that So is no longer the rabid blood thirsty killer prince everyone thinks he is, he still plays a part in everything that is bound to happen in Goryeo. Su and Ji-mong were given such “gifts” not to change history but rather So himself. He will eventually become king but not in the ballistic bloody path written in our history books. People who are destined to die, will die. People who re destined to survive, will live. It’s now all about who will make it happen as opposed to how it will happen.
It's just so nice to see Hae Soo and Wang So smile again, especially when they are together.
I would've liked to see their relationship develop throughout those two years that passed, but I get why the time skip was needed for the storyline to go on. That aside, episode 14 was too much cuteness >.< ❤ The kiss scene was definitely worth the wait!
On a side note, Kim San Ho acting as the crazy, delirious Crown Prince was fantastic. It was like he became a completely different person. I am really going to miss his character.
This comment on dramabeans ♥: 182 joy October 9th, 2016 at 6:14 AM Episode 4 (when So wrecked out the stones…
Agreed! I know a lot of us were frustrated by the earlier episodes where Hae Soo was afraid of Wang So when she knew what he was capable of (Gwangjong killing his brothers), but now we can truly see the contrast between who he could've become (a ruthless King), and who Soo has changed him into being- someone warm and compassionate towards the people he loves. I love the thought that Soo's existence has changed So completely as a person, to the point where it's changing history ❤❤
The amount of detail put into So's character building is amazing! I don't think the writer's get enough credit :P
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHn_isd5ZSY&list=WL&index=68
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcdun3AXZ7I&list=WL&index=70
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAzlGKJBgu8&index=73&list=WL
I can understand why So is hurt by the fact that Soo loved Wook. So has never payed attention to the other romantic links that Soo has had to the other princes (he even thought Soo liked Baek Ah at one point) and he has always only focused on making Soo his. Now that So's hate for Wook has grown so much, it is reasonable that just the thought that Soo loved Wook makes him angry enough to cast her away. I just wish that he had found out about Soo and Wook's relationship much earlier. It seems like the writers are desperately separating Soo and So using any means possible. It is just so tiring to watch So get hurt over and over again by the people that he loves. He's gone through so much and he deserves to be happy. :(
However, strangely enough, I felt sympathy for Wook during his last conversation with Hae Soo. In those minutes alone, he was sort of able to redeem his character. He put his selfish thoughts and ambitions aside, telling Soo to forget it all and live happily. It doesn't justify all the horrible things he's done, but it made me think of how sweet and caring he was in the beginning. I liked that they decided to leave Wook and Soo without any bad blood. It was a bittersweet goodbye between them, and that was a pleasant surprise.
On the other hand...the writer's are driving me crazy with Hae Soo's way of thinking. They easily could've connected: Hae Soo realizing she was the reason for all the Prince's deaths to her wanting to leave the palace because so she did not hurt anyone else, especially Wang So. Instead, they made Soo a selfish character, making her leave the palace for her own sake and leaving So brokenhearted.
I don't know how they are going to wrap everything up in tomorrow's episode, and they didn't give us a preview either >:
PLEASE WRITERS, JUST LET SOO AND SO MEET IN THE FUTURE AND LIVE HAPPILY EVER AFTER TT^TT
Her painful "past life" is also a decent explanation as to why she was able to adapt to Goryeo so quickly- because she wanted to escape the pain of the life she had before and start over by living the life of someone else. In a way, that's also very sad because she's not able to escape pain and betrayal in the modern day, or in Goryeo :(
However, it's just so frustrating that we were robbed of those crucial years where their love actually grew to become mutual and honest. Now it has just gone back to more things tearing Soo and So apart when we barely got to see them happy together in the first place. There are so many things that should've been brought to light earlier, like Chaeryung's betrayal. That way it wouldn't have had to come between Soo and So NOW, when there's only 2 episodes left.
The future for the two of them looks grim, and at this point a tragic ending (and Hae Soo's death) is pretty much inevitable. The only thing I'm hoping for is that they can spend their last moments together and somehow find their way back to each other in the present day. Please writers, that's the least you can do after this whole mess ;^;
https://youtu.be/tUWQsca_YIM?list=PLBgoH0TBt-xBqzMEG1Yx3tQkh9r8a1bFn
However, I will forever hold a grudge against SBS for bringing this drama down due to the horrible editing. If a sequel really is made, the editing better be top notch. All the cast and crew deserve it >:
https://youtu.be/nVjVj5gGfcE
ajfoiasjfsdoija as if one week's wait isn't enough we might have to wait an extra day too ;-;
102 pineappleGongzhu October 12th, 2016 at 8:51 AM
Different Forms and Phases of Love
While ML:SHR marketed itself (poorly, IMO) as a flower boy drama, I would like to argue it reveals different forms and stages of love as depicted via our heroine and 4 of the 8 princes.
Eun (στοργή – love/affection as for a child): while Eun experienced an unrequited love from HS, he represents that first bloom of love that children experience as they move towards adolescence. HS characterised him appropriately as “pure.” Child-like, perhaps even childish, but nonetheless sweet and innocent. This is mirrored in his marriage to Soon Deok. While it could be argued the delay in marriage consummation was because Eun is a blockhead, it also shows the “innocence” of their love. The fact that Soon Deok doesn’t know how babies are made confirms this child-like purity of their love.
Baek Ah (φιλία – love, but in friendship between equals): this is a true friendship built on honesty (he confronted her about her affair with Wook), mutuality (their love for Lady Hae), common beliefs (when discussing – drunk – the hierarchy of palace politics). I find it adorable that he tries to play reconciler (episode 8), finding out everyone’s favorite drink and snack so Su can make amends with So. And then, of course, he continues to bring them together (So’s poem to Su in episode 14).
Wook (ἔρος – desirous love): the passionate love you hope aren’t just in fairytales. It appears as if it were true, defying conventional (or even perceived unfair) relational restrictions. It’s swoony. It’s full of promises, romantic gestures, gifts, and stolen moments. He promises the world, but in the end, when push comes to shove, he chooses something else (call it his ambition, his family, his personal interests) over his love. It’s not that he doesn’t love her, but he will always love something else over her; in a way, he will always put himself first.
Wang So (ἀγάπη – the love between a husband and wife): the epic love that lasts a lifetime, hard fought and sorely won – AND only proven true AFTER the fact. This is the one that gives up everything for the beloved: he risks everything for her: be it defying an arranged royal marriage, drinking poison, supporting her in protests, defying the king AGAIN when the king didn’t hold up his end of the bargain for So to be an envoy, even paying homage to a traitor to protect her. He thinks of her best interests above his own. He even wants her freedom above his own.
It’s a love the brings out the best in them. Su brings out the best in So, she brings out his full potential by lavishing on him the most basic amount of love that he has hungered for his entire life. He provides for her (however unappreciated in the beginning) the kind of steadfast faithfulness and devotion she has never experienced in lover or female friend. It’s the one that haunts our dreams because it is what we all want: the soul-deep intimacy and understanding between two spirits of like mind, heart, and vision. It grows out of genuine friendship, trust, truthfulness, fidelity, and selflessness. It’s beauty lies in it’s utter self-giving for the good and flourishing of the object of love. I think one could argue that within Wang So, he embodies all of the different loves in appropriate and passionate form. His love for Hae Su is pure and child-like, they talk openly and vulnerably like friends, but he is passionate for her (his eyes are only towards her), and to top it all off, he is willing to die for her.
Hae Su: she’s the faithful lover until the end of time. I mentioned in an earlier post that she is loving to emo-wolf princes, loyal to disloyal prince charmings, and kind to dying kings who tortured her. She cannot NOT love. It defines her. She embodies love and unity, the kind that families are supposed to be bound by. She dislikes Yeon Hwa, but she has NEVER lifted a finger against her. She defends herself against YH’s hostility, but she never attacks her, even when YH threatens to make her full of regret.
I know that we are all sad that Wang So/Hae Su’s love story has taken so long to build, and it’s never uncomplicated. It’s always a little bittersweet. There’s always something wrong or in the way (2nd male leads, torture, pitiful niece-brides, scheming half-sisters, envoy duties, futuristic visions)…but I think that is what makes their love EPIC.
It’s a love tested in the fiery furnaces of affliction – and comes out stronger as a result. It’s not a love that develops in the coziness of soft fluffy clouds, but the steely kind of love that faces raging storms of all kinds, determined to return home.
Can you tell I’m a hopeless romantic?
4.1.4 Yoyo October 11th, 2016 at 7:21 PM
Two things:
1. The writers aim is to convey that history is an inconvenient truth. While people disregard key points in history (“learn from our mistakes!”), they always manage to go back to it and regretfully ponder those “what if” moments. History acts as a constant reminder that people will do anything and everything to survive.
2. Changing a person, won’t change what’s destined to happen. While we can all agree that So is no longer the rabid blood thirsty killer prince everyone thinks he is, he still plays a part in everything that is bound to happen in Goryeo. Su and Ji-mong were given such “gifts” not to change history but rather So himself. He will eventually become king but not in the ballistic bloody path written in our history books. People who are destined to die, will die. People who re destined to survive, will live. It’s now all about who will make it happen as opposed to how it will happen.
I would've liked to see their relationship develop throughout those two years that passed, but I get why the time skip was needed for the storyline to go on. That aside, episode 14 was too much cuteness >.< ❤ The kiss scene was definitely worth the wait!
I am reallyyy looking forward to the scene where they are facing each other with masks on *-*
http://img2.sbs.co.kr/img/sbs/RO/2016/08/23/RO65275205_w1000_h0.jpg
On a side note, Kim San Ho acting as the crazy, delirious Crown Prince was fantastic. It was like he became a completely different person. I am really going to miss his character.
The amount of detail put into So's character building is amazing! I don't think the writer's get enough credit :P