So now on ep 16 and I am LOVING our ML, he is really carrying the show with his performance here. The FML though….…
interesting. I guess it's just all perspective. I thought her expression during the scene is like a kid wanting to just cry about how they just got bully to their parent. She's not overly happy/relieved but more just "look what they did to me. I need comforting" and not "oh my savior", which would be a little expected. She also said she's embarassed to be seen like this as well so I think it make sense her expression is more reserved. Idk her expression made their chemistry felt even more familiar and intimate for me. Like it's a given you're here for me to lean on so it's not so savior and omg my knight. It's more like finally you're here, took you long enough and straight to pouting and crying about how hurt she is LOL Idk somehow it was giving long time couple energy than a heroic act. That said, the ML acting is really the best I've ever seen him. I actually always felt his acting in other shows are quite awkward in emotional/complex scenes. This is the best acting I've seen of him. He certainly leveled up big time and he's doing great. Personally I think it's bc of how good his acting partner and the directing are that he's able to shine. I find both their acting very equal here. There's some choices that didn't completely feel right from both of them at times but for the most part they're expressing the character exactly how I would expect these type of characters to act.
Right on! I can’t agree more about what you said. This drama feels like a breath of fresh air. I’m reading…
YUP! With him, I do get it but also felt unfair to her feelings. He is definitely the type to not realize what he got until it's gone. Although you can tell that throughout their "training" to chase the friend, he knows she's kinda talking nonsense sometimes but he just went with it and enjoyed just messing around with her. This is why I think deep down he knows she likes him and already fell for her. The fact that he got a point system showed he's overly logical type and not in touch with his feelings. His logic is probably just she's helping me chase a girl and I should focus on that and that's it. It's not until he realized he already fell for her that he's freaking out. He did say if give it a few months, he probably would confess first. That said, .... stiill very freaking late compare to the emotional investment she made and how hurt she was. It literally pissed me off to no end when he tried to keep her copyright and NEVER READ THE BOOK. Bro are you fr fr? SHe had to tell you to your face for you to consider reading her book before trying to produce her movie??? I was so glad the writer didn't force her to choose him or wev reason. He didn't really spend as much time understanding her world as much as she did him. So honestly I'm glad they took the time to force him into doing the work before he can earn his way back into her heart. It does feel more earned now that they had an honest conversation about where they are at emotionally. Plus it was very obvious how much she cares about him while still trying to be cool. She was not mean to him. Just blunt and professional but still can't help being affected. That's on the acting for sure. HYR eyes are just very expressive and her choices of expression made you feel the affection while she's acting cold. The FL give him thanks and appreciation when it is earned and she didn't brush off his kindness when she knows it's genuine.
Honestly I just love this actress so much. I've watched multiple shows with this actor and this is the first time I felt a sizzling chemistry between him and his leading lady. This actress just make me feel for the character. I cried when she cried. The plot is of course cliche on paper but also not cliche execution and details. HRY had a lot of great choices of facial expression to keep the cringe manageable but also it hits hard when she does emotional scene. For the first time, I actually feel how hot WZM is as a ML. I tried to watch a lot of his shows. Despite being very handsome and decent actor, something about the way he interact with his FL in love scenes just didn't spark anything for me. It felt awkward. This show finally made me want to watch him more. His acting definitely improved but also his chemistry with her is insane. May be it's the directing. HRY had also suffer through quite a few terrible shows bc of bad writing/directing but her acting has always worked for me... With a half decent script, she really capture your attention. May be I'm the only one but I think if you didn't skip introspective scene with the FL, you can kinda understand the delay in the FL acceptance. Honestly, I understand the ML's perspective as well and that he's just really slow in realizing his feelings. However, this girl spent 4 years being around him. We get glimpses of how close they are even while she's "setting him up w her friend". It's very obvious he noticed she might be into him. He might not fully realized that he felt the same. It's understandable that it took a little longer for him to realize. For us as viewers, the moment the guy is nice and sweet, we just want her to get w him already. But honestly for the FL character, she spent 4 years deeply in love w him. She got rejected and it had to take a lot to convince herself to be rational move on. However the hurt is there. She also probably felt unfair. Unfair that she spent so much effort and time on this crush and love him so much. Yet, in her perspective, it felt like he just made a decision yesterday that now he's into her. It probably felt very sudden and not earned. Is it fair to him? Not really bc it's not like he does it on purpose. But also I can understand her. Your heart is not rational. Sometimes when someone hurt you once, you know they're making up for it and you believed they're sincere. Logically, you know you should let it go. But your heart is still not there yet bc while he had the last few months of being "in love" with her, she spent 4 years being in love and felt the pain of having to wash it all away. After all the plagiarism thing, It seems like her brain has made peace w him but her heart is still unsure. I LOVE that she actually said that to him. You almost never see a conversation like that with these kind of plot. Often time, you just see them push and pull until it feels like the FL is just a brat. However, the way it's portrayed here by both the actress and the writing really help you feel the affection she's showing him while trying to resist letting herself get too deepp into it again. I like that once she realized he is serious (after the way she supported her through the plagiarism incident), she just admit to still liking him but also express her honest feeling about where she's at emotionally and that she's not really sure how to react with him. I appreciate that honesty. It's a short convo and not some cheesy long winded talk but it's very straight and honest. It gave him some reassurance but also give him a chance to show his sincerity and be patient w her.
I know at the beginning, a lot of ppl cringe at her crush. I did too LOL the wall of photos is a little crazy. Without the fairy lights and context, it felt like a freaking murder walll imma be honest. That said, most of her wild thoughts and moments are between herself and sometimes with friends but not in front of him. The way she confess is honestly such a boss move. The scenes we got to see of how she got close to him is actually quite adorable and sweet. She had a crush and she spent the time to get to know him, fell deeper and deeper in love and went for the kill once she smell a hint of his affection LOL Respect honestly. Aside from the photo wall part which is a little much (tho I'm also a little cold when it comes to crushes), I didn't mind her crush phase. I think our culture taught us to resist being honest w our feelings and expressing it even within ourselves, desperation is scary. That's why we cringe when seeing the innerworld of this girl so hopelessly in love and desperate for his love in return. But If we're all being honest, when we all have a crush, if we are as carefree and open w our feelings, we probably would be the same as her. For her character, it actually does make sense. Upon seeing more of how she got close to him, I can understand her crush more and more. Thus I also understand how hurt she was and the effort it took to suppress it all and be "cool". To open up that can a worm again given how deep her feelings are is very scary. That's why even tho it's not fair to him, she needed to feel more love from him that felt adequate to her own. I think the audience can interpret this in lots of ways and those who are a little less keen on diving analyzing feelings and emotions might not get it or still doesn't think she's justified and find it annoying. I think it actually made sense. It took a big event for her to feeel his love is more than just some flashy moves and fleeting feelings bc he was robbed of a familiar person. However, it still felt sudden and quick so the brain might have understand but her heart still not sure how to be around him again. They're now being honest about that and slowly resolving it. It felt more earned than her just completely forgiven him right after he support her w the scandal and move on like it's all kisses and rainbows. Our feelings aren't that simple to resolve. Now after she admit to herself what's going on in her heart, I truly start to feel the hurt will be able to resolve justifiably. You almost never see this process in these kind of dramas. Cliches work for a reason. With a good emotional writing in between, this actually makes a very cathartic watch if you're open to go through the up and down w the character and not too eager to judge. So far, altho there are some faults, overall, I'm happy w their progress.
Ugh what is up withall the open and sad ending in these recent xian xia….. like I get it. It makes it memorable but it’s getting old. I’m scared to start xian xia these days bc as much as I love this genre they’ve been rough to get through all the heart break just to have a maybe as an ending. I just invested so much time and emotion in these characters just to have them not find happiness in the end. Ugh it’s getting old. Even a novel happy ending becomes a sad one. Writers, cut it out. Bring back happy ending in xian xia. We’re over this open ended shit
- They start bickering a bit- Soon they become friends- Soon again they like eachother- This evolves into a relationship…
Haha I’m also just a wordy person. The ending is pretty cute good, they solve their problems and get married. We don’t see their wedding or anything but they do start dating before the show ends just with some young adult challenges. They resolve things and by the last episode they’ve been married and attending their friends wedding or smt. I don’t remember too much details of it. Theres a special ep on YouTube with their wedding photo shoot at school and some added moments after. They reveal little Easter eggs about some clues the ML left during his school year about his feelings for the FL really early on. It’s not a surprise tho since he obviously has a crush on her before she does. They wrap the theme of the “secret” each character held in their heart. The real theme of the show is the secret we have about our feelings that we are too scare to reveal in our youth. So I also appreciate the way the show tie things back to the tittle of the show at the ends. Tbh their break up was not that long bc it’s a time skip to a year later so and they go back a forth a bit chasing each other so it’s quite cute and fun with some angst here and there, but lots of romantic moments. It’s kinda introduce a new yet familiar dynamic between them as both characters went through some changes during their time apart. So I wouldn’t say their break up/time apart with sadness and pain was that long. It’s rather quick for them to reunite screen time wise. But again, I think it’s a rather sentimental connection I made with this show. I also went in with very low expectation and was so taken by surprise w how much I feel for the character. You might not feel the same though it’s really based on your mood really. I might just have been in the mood for it so it resonate with me lol That’s why this show has a special place in my heart.
okay...but what's with the statement "direct relatives can't donate blood"..to children??
So apparently, it’s been proven that there’s a higher risk of Transfusion-associated graft-versus-host disease (TA-GVHD) when giving blood to your 1st degree relatives. It’s not impossible but very risky additional testing to match other criteria in the blood other than just blood type is needed, and the blood needs to be treated with a radiation procedure to ensure it is safe for transfusion and that process is very complicated and expensive to do. So it is not recommended for direct relatives to give blood to their kid unless it is absolutely the only option since it is so risky. TA-GVHD happens when the T cells in the donor’s blood might see the T cells of the patient as foreign and began attacking it, causing serious complications with high mortality rate. There’s no effective cure for it. Typically if the patient is healthy, their own T cell can win the fight against the donor’s T cell since there should be less of them. In that case, there shouldn’t be any problem. However if your immune system in compromised already bc of chemo or wev reason, your T cell will lose and lead to TA-GVHD. Now, when we transfuse blood from a close relative (1st or second degree), the blood of the donor may be so similar to the blood of the patient that the patient’s immune system does not recognise the donor’s T-cells as foreign. In this case, there will be no battle. To the patient’s T-cells, those of the donor are friendly. However, now the donor’s T-cells will still recognise the patient’s tissue as foreign and will proliferate and attack unimposed. This may lead to TA-GvHD even in patients with a healthy immune system. This is why it’s a lot riskier to use blood from 1st degree relatives.
This is literally contrary to every drama I’ve seen about blood donation stuff LOOOL but I literally spent the last hour reading a research paper about this after this show 😂😂
- They start bickering a bit- Soon they become friends- Soon again they like eachother- This evolves into a relationship…
LOL I mean give it a shot. As critical as this post was, I think a lot of nuances were overlooked. I personally love it not just for the bubbly surface level romance. I think as characters, both ML and FL are flawed in different ways. Angst is part of what makes a show interesting if it make sense and with a youth show, their problems and dilemma might seem silly but it’s understandable the way they depict it. At least they are to me. The FL might be seen as dumb and only know and chase the ML but I think that’s leaving out a lot. The ML is wonderful as a character in their youth. He’s a well adjusted genius whos good at a school, sports with lots of friends and a little picky but very sociable and warm. Whereas the FL grew up with lots of inferiority complex that’s pushed on heavily by her family. If you take the time to actually watch her scenes, the actress and writer did a good job portraying the pressure of a new school, harsh mom who’s biased towards her brother. All of that made her turn inward. She overthinks, not good at making friends and also get in her own head. I relate to her loneliness and insecurities she felt. It reminds me of my teenage self. If you give yourself the space to absorb and watch her without fast forward or skipping, you’ll come to empathize with the flaws in the character and feel for her.
Yeah it does feel a little frustrating when it seems like she abandon a lot just to be at the school the ML is in. However, it’s not like she’s chasing some cold aloof tsundere and she’s just some stupid underperforming student hopelessly chasing him. Their feelings were mutual and clearly expressed to one another from the start without making it official. She’s not a bad student either, just average to decent. She didn’t really know what she wants for a career much like everyone else in high school and was always told she’s not good enough by her mother. He helped her find her confidence in her studies and herself. Given the fact that she doesn’t really know what her dream is, she already wanted to join the ML anyways in school so she just made that her goal. I think the point of this arc is despite her reservations, she found the courage to confess herself and come at him confidently. It might have started bc of love but it still help her evolve from an awkward girl who’s uncomfortable with herself and too scare to face her feelings, to someone who has the gut to openly go after the guy she likes.
Regarding their break up, the way the comment made it seems silly. There are definitely misunderstanding but the main reason the ML cut off contact is bc of his family situation. Yeah he saw the FL with another boy when he’s back to visit. He’s just sad bc he had plans for her, but he didn’t cut contact for months bc of that. It’s bc right after that, he also hit with the bad news about his dad and his family. Now, the OP made it seem silly that he wants to break up with her bc of his family situation. I understand that. However I do want to put into perspective that 1. ML is also flawed. That’s the best part about this show. His flaw isn’t that he’s some awkward, cold tsundere. His flaw is he see himself as a protector. His family is a little cold but overall he grew up quite well off. Not rich but definitely financially well taken care of. He’s popular, nice and smart. He has lots of ambitions and expectations for his life and the life he wants to have with the FL. However, when a kid haven’t experienced hardships, his first family tragedy turned him from a lofty genius with a bright future into someone who has to take care of their sick parents, working part time jobs to make money, needing scholarships to stay in school, while still trying to work towards building the tech career he wants. ML typically depicted with almost infallible mental strength with some one dimensional trauma or quirk, who is determined and resolute in these romance drama. However, in this show, he is also just as flawed and stubborn as the FL but just different presentation. He is just a teenager who feels overwhelmed and inadequate. If the FL is insecure and not sure how he feels about her, the ML is too prideful and feel that as a struggling college student shackled with so many responsibilities, he’s no longer qualified to be the protector he wanted to be for her like high school. Now he’s the one who feels like he doesn’t deserve her. The higher you are the harder you fall. It sound silly but I think this is understandable given how young they are and his upbringing. His whole life he is always sure of himself and his future. His entire outlook of life has changed drastically and I think it make sense for him to let his own insecurities and inferiority complex make him hesitate to be with her. They are literally each other first love. It’s not like they are mature adults who felt these feelings before. I think the fact that they had moments of angst and overthinking are very normal. Most ppl are just conditioned to see men as this unshakable force in these shows and doesn’t take everyday struggle into account to empathize with them. The moment she appear again, he knows he can’t ignore her but can’t let go of his complex yet. He comes around eventually obviously and they are very cute. I think through this period, they jumped through their toughest inner saboteur and trauma. This to me is more realistic and heart warming than the almost way too perfect and mature reactions from literal teenagers having their first relationship. It’s so cute and light overall. There’s some misunderstandings but they really do get resolved pretty quick. What hold them up is not the misunderstanding but their own version of relational trauma and insecurities. But when one person step back, the other step up and provide the assurance they need and vice versa. In the process, the FL does grow and find her own path. There’s lots of little butterfly moments and tid bits that make you swoon. Even when they fight, this couple is still very sweet to each other. The ML is warm and soft with her even when they’re fighting. She also knows that and push him until he cave and run after her. I mean again what is youth if not these immature moments created by our own insecurities. They did some push and pull but you know the issue is not that deep and will resolve once they face their feelings. They still so clearly love each other through out the whole thing.
Overall, I think if you’re going in ready to rip into every little immaturity from the character and skip through scenes without both leads, instead of letting the show play out and absorb the nuances, this will be quite annoying. However, I think if you give it a chance, it’s a very special little show. Yeah it’s not all smooth sailing but its character driven and both leads are flawed in similar ways. This means they will act unreasonably sometimes and grow out of it. That’s the point of a YOUTH drama. You’re unreasonable and filled with self doubts when you’re young and first feel love. Even grown adults still struggle with that. We’re just better at dealing with it over the years.
Of course everyone has different opinions and expections when it comes to these shows. Some ppl prefer relax and smooth sailing, no angst type of show with lots of sweetness. I do like that too. However I was finding youth drama like that a little bland and I left it not remember much. This one stays with me even though I’ve seen it twice. I think it’s bc it made me feel things. I cried a lot with the FL a when she felt alone and don’t know how to express herself well. I relate to the character a lot. Yes we want bad ass FL who’s “not-like-other-girl” but ya know lots of young girls were told they were not good enough by families and society. Some never form meaningful friendship that help build them up. Lots of girls aren’t sure about who they are at that age and just bc she’s not a sassy quick witted tomboy, doesn’t mean she doesn’t have her own stubbornness and personality. That’s why they need to go through tough relationships and find who they are. Not sure if you’re going to read all this but I felt like I needed to show another point of view. It’s definitely not a perfect show of course, might not be your cup of tea but I know it hits lots of emotions for me and It successfully created more layers than a surface level one dimensional romance.
I’m pretty sure there will be. It’s clearly set up for some romance but probably quite mild with great chemistry. Something like Vincenzo. So romance won’t be the focus but it’ll likely happen in the background. We might get like one kiss may be near the end. I’m sensing an enemy to amazing partner to love type trope but kinda going on in the background while the main plot is going on
LOL not this show actually made me look up why parents shouldn’t give blood to their kids and now I just read a research paper on the additional risks involved when receiving blood from 1st degree relatives 😂 this was not what dramas taught me in the past. Like what about all those dramatic family secrets revealed by emergency blood donations!! I swear my earliest knowledge of blood transfusion was from Autumn in my heart LOL now thanks to another drama I learn something new
YXW screwed up big time because she has no business saving XL from prison. Because her stupidity got her grandma…
To say by saving XL out of kindness, she deserve to get manipulated into stabbing him herself and has her grandma dead… is so crazy. Similar to how she feels attached to grandma, XL has the face and temperament of her senior brother nad brother in the dream arc. I’m sure to her, he feels like family. It’s not the smartest thing to do but I can understand her. Like the punishment does not fit the crime. She was silly for saving XL but him buying the dumb lies from YBC is also her fault? Or Like let’s be fair here. Her problem with TTJ has always been that he doesn’t seem to understand levels. Like no one said to let every evil person get away but there are levels to things. He’s so extreme all the time. It’s understandable given what he’s been through and the fact that he can’t fully comprehend emotions yet. HOWEVER, that doesn’t change the reality of his action and how hurt she is by it. All it takes is a little switch and he will be the devil god that she personally witnessed murder her whole family. Y’all act like she doesn’t get to feel traumatized too. Every move she makes is to follow her moral code. She might love him but she also very very much afraid of what he might become. He doesn’t exactly make it easy for her to relax with the way he acts. Yes he can’t help himself but that’s also the reality they are in. She carry the burden of knowing one wrong move and she will basically be killing her whole sect. At the same time she’s falling for someone who she knows will kill her family and friends. She will never be able to fully trust him. Everytime he did something extreme it not only make her feel betrayed but also make him look more and more like the murderer who will killl her family and friends. Cut her some slack. The same way everyone seems to cream at everything TTJ did and act like everyone is responsible to be understanding of him. The situation is what it is. It’s like marrying a sociopathic serial killer. He usually only kill ppl who wrong him but say if bc they’re threaten or have difficult circumstances, someone had to cross him. He doesn’t have the faculty to be understanding or merciful. To him, you cross me you’re dead. That’s not normal out side of this context. Yeah you love him and you know he’s not an innately bad person but at the same time, you also have the hindsight of knowing in the future he will literally destroy the whole world and personally witness this man killed everyone you ever loved. Like let the girl deal with it however she needs to. She is the only person who doesn’t owe TTJ anything. TTJ is very one direction with his decision making but for someone with all her feelings Ike LSS, she operates from a mix of very extreme emotions. Hurt, anger, fear, guilt. I can’t imagine how one would act in her position. Even if she is being hurtful and extreme, it’s honestly very understandable. It’s unreasonable to ask her character to be unwaveringly trusting and understanding of TTJ. It’s simply impossible . You can have sympathy and understanding to both of them and it’s just a heart breaking situation they are in.
My thought is given the circumstance, it’s understandable. I feel like the show did not let the audience soak…
Well said. It’s growing pains. It sucks but since they are both flawed in different ways and the circumstances are what they are, they both need to hit this climax to grow out of this knot they’re stuck in.
I saw the eps 25 trailer, I think it's a good thing if they don't end up together. The level of mistrust and prejudice…
My thought is given the circumstance, it’s understandable. I feel like the show did not let the audience soak in the emotions in the first episode enough when devil killed her whole family. It makes it seem like no biggie and just something that happened but for LSS character to make sense, that trauma had to be more impactful. Think of the start of goodbye my princess. The whole process when the FL’s tribe and family were killed was so painful and brutal. Your heart literally ache and they took the time to let the pain and trauma it’s done to the FL shown. So much that as the audience, you literally can’t forget how scary the reality of what happened is and how hard it is to forgive the ML. I think if they spend just a little more time on really show the pain of the family’s death, it will make the fear and trauma she feels make more sense. As a character, I think no matter how much LSS come to love TTJ she can’t deny what the future/fate has in store. She lived it herself. She can’t really help not fully trust TTJ given the fact that she watch him slaughter her whole family. Yes that’s him in the future but that’s a deep trauma to just say oh let’s forget it and love each other. I’ll put my life in your hand. A part of her will always be on edge bc of how unpredictable TTJ is. She will feel like one wrong move and he will be the one to murder her whole family and sect. It’s a scary place to be in and one that she lived through already. Given that, I don’t think no matter how much love she feel she can wholeheartedly trust him to “do the right thing”. Their definition of morals are inherently different. As for TTJ, aside from loving YXW, he really is very black and white, probably bc of his lack of love thread. So from his standpoint, mercy or unconditional trust is close to impossible. He love her but also in his brain the logic is betrayal = hate = death. It’s hard for him to comprehend the extend of her love and decisions bc shes the type to act from a place of feelings and emotion and he’s not. So he can’t understand any of her action that goes against him without proper explanation. It’s simple as that. Not that I can blame him but it is what it is. That’s why for this couple, true unconditional trust in each other to do the right thing and trust in what the other will do out of love are practically impossible bc of the situation they’re in. Not that it’s their fault but it is what it is. It’s what going to get them through this arc I guess. It sucks and angsty though but hopefully once we’re past this it’s going to get better.
I hope Esther yu got some work done on her acting skill, her goddess character in lbdaf was so forcibly done,…
Or you can just not watch LOL no one is making you. I love her acting. It’s the ML acting I’m a little skeptical about. If anything I find that she makes me enjoy every ML she acted with more than I usually do in their other projects. Esther knows what suits her acting the best and that’s what make it works for her. You either love it or you don’t. I personally adore her in LBDAF. There’s literally cannot be anyone else as Little Orchid in my brain now. She made a naive little fairy so real and lovable I would kill for her. A perfect contrast to Dylan’s role. I don’t care that her real life personality leak into her role. I find that that’s what make her roles very uniquely hers and make them fun to watch and it feels real and natural when she acts. You know what to expect with her. She might not be everyone’s cup of tea but for me if anyone else did the same thing her character does it would be annoying but for some reason, when she does it, it suits her well and it works. I think when she needs to be serious in a role, she also did it well like when Orchid pretend to lose her memories. It’s not as fun as her lively role but she did what the role needed. This one will be a different side of her she’s experimenting but given how meticulous she is with her acting, I’m sure she wouldn’t take this on if she doesn’t think she can nail it. Still if you already have a distaste for her voice and her style of acting, I would save the time and just not watch. I dont feel like it’s conducive to see ppl complain again and again about her voice and can’t get themselves to enjoy her style of acting. It’s fine if it’s not for you but it gets real old at this point. I hope if you do give this a chance, you’ll go in with an open mind.
Are you just ranting for do you really don't know the answer to these questions lol 1. The bullying in this show…
I mean it’s another thing when you’re kid. We literally saw her covered in scars, reported to teachers, police, etc. No one helped her and then even help cover up for your bully to come back and bully you more. There are multiple of them physically overpower you. What are you supposed to do? It’s not some mean girls saying some snide remarks. They’re physical and they have money and power you do not. You’re not an adult. You’re also poor with no support. If you hit back a rich kid, you’re going to juvie while the same does not apply to them. You’re already poor and you parents are likely already burden with lots of issues. As an Asian kid myself, the sense of responsibility you are taught from a young age to be sensible and not caused problems for your parents engrained in you, especially when you can see how much your parents struggle. In Asia, it’s not as easy to say oh I’ll just change school, changing school can dramatically change your future prospects, your family will have to move to be in that district (which require money) and there are likely no opening in other good school unless you can afford to bribe someone. I cannot stress enough how much record and education literally can make the difference between you struggling financially forever to get by or having a normal life. Plus in this show, the parent literally sold her out and left so it’s not like she has anyone who help her. She can fight and probably had before but it was futile and jsut ended up with her getting beat up more. Ultimately, who will lose out more? It won’t be your bully.
To say that you can just fight back and say no is kinda disregarding the situation they’re in and the mental space they are at. It doesn’t take two to tango if you’re being tied up and carried to dance whether you like it or not. Unlike schools in the west where the level of control one can have in school is limited to the kids or at most the parents and there are at least some options for escape. In Asia and specifically Korea and in this show, the level of cruelty as well as control these kids can have is crazy. It’s another thing when you’re an adult, have some what of a support system and foundation in society and the person bullying you can be held liable legally and have something to lose. Hence why it takes until then for our protagonist to take revenge but even then it comes at a cost of her whole life and ability to be happy bc she’s tormented mentally and physically by the hatred. I wouldn’t say it’s that great either but it’s definitely justified.Ultimately tell a child who is absolutely alone in that situation and literally was let down by every adult around them “well it’s kinda your fault for letting it happpen” is not ok. There’s so much more at play than just say oh just fight back then. I think taking the effort to understand the victim and place the blame on the system that created these monster and vicious cycle is much more important. I can’t imagine how I would feel if I’ve been through such horrific things and was told it’s in anyway my responsibility that I went through that. Kind of a messed up thing to say
Trying to watch this one my iPad but for some reason it won’t show up on my Netflix. Weird thing is it’s there on Netflix on my computer …. Does anyone know why
Instead of "The Glory", the title should really be "The Bitch". Its the most spoken word in the entire drama.…
Are you just ranting for do you really don't know the answer to these questions lol 1. The bullying in this show are based on real life cases. If you really can't understand the psychology a victim in these cases, you need to have more empathy and learn more about the mindset of the victim in these situations. In most cases with these bullies, they get off with a slap on the wrist or adults would ignore it, meaning they can easily keep bullying the victim and even their brother or sister. The real life case of the girl who was burned with a curling iron, she was in fear of the bullies. She knows they will easily get away so if she doesn't listen to them, she will just get it worse later on. They also threaten to hurt her brother instead if she doesn't listen. She was also a middle schooler. This si her life perimeters that she can see at the time. Even then when the adults found out, their first question to her is "what did you do to make them do this to you? not saying it's your fault but you must have done something to them". Even after it's found out, the bullies easily got off easy. They giggled and laughed as they were apologizing to her bc they were forced to. They are now living happily with no records of their behavior. So instead of leaving callous comments like "why didn't you just say no", may be have some empathy and don't turn to blame the victim. You might not have said explicitly but the insinuation that it's in any way their fault for not resisting enough is pretty callous and hurtful to the victims. The last thing they need to somehow blame themselves for their suffering. The only one responsible for the blame is the perpetrator.
2. In any decent film, a character's outfit is a refection of their personality and inner world. Dressing in black fits the dark state of mind she's always in, as she is haunted by her trauma and need for revenge. It sets the tone for who the character is. She's not a happy beam of sunshine who would wear pink and yellow. Her clothing fits her character and immediately create that dark air around her when she's on screen. It's obviously intentional.
3. May be try to not make fun of ppl appearance? It makes you seem really immature. May be reflect why you feel such a burning need to zone in on one feature of someone's face, so much so that you can't focus on a very intense story going on. It's one thing to jest about it to hate on a clearly hateful character, but if you're just picking apart the actor appearance for the sake of it.... you're starting to sound a whole lot like a bully yourself. I can't tell the tone you're going with for that comment but given everything else you said, it does not sound good. Just sayin.
4. What's the point of any group of bullies or evil organization ever? They can relate to each other's cruelty and it embolden their actions. They might hate each other because they're incapable of being kind and empathetic, but they know they won't feel judged for their sadistic tendency and can be openly cruel and feel justified by the ppl they're surrounded themselves with. They feed off each other and also feel the need to outdo each other. In a lesser degree of cruelty, this is how lots of toxic friend groups behave, especially in high school or middle school. Kids that age also lack impulse control and have a need for attention and validation. Creating fear makes them feel powerful and having a group of friend like that further validate that behavior, while also give you the motivation to outdo one another through putting each other down.
Omg now I can finish the last eps knowing it’s going to end well LOOOOL also Young Kwang and Sung Kyung make such a good looking couple lol they’re both so tall and good looking with kind of unique facial features. I hope they work together again in something happier. They both can do rom com very well in the past. I’ve been watching them interacting in interviews and their chemistry is very natural and fun together. It will be nice to meet them again in a fun show. They both showed off great range as actors through this show though. Idk how popular this show is in Korea but I hope they’re proud of their performance. They truly made me feel all kinds of emotions without much dialogues. From their posture to their emotions, they truly created very memorable characters . I will miss WJ and DJ.
Viki has caught up so I am also watching this episode now :D They are very cute haha. I like that Zhou Yuan is…
WQ needs to cut it out and just let her in. We don’t have that many eps left and I need more sweet moments between them before all this sh*t hit the fans. I have a strong strong feeling that master is about to die somehow.
Whats misunderstanding? whats happen? he don't trust FL? Why?
How far in are you? Basically right before she was going to confirm her feelings for him, he just thought she was in love with her master bc she was talking to him about how she likes WQ and hugged her master with joy bc he helped her confirm that what she feels for WQ is real love. WQ saw this from afar and misunderstand. Then when he got closer, he heard them talk about the whole purpose of why she initially approached him was to sever their red thread. So he got really mad with her and said some mean things to push her away but she was too busy apologizing and explaining to confess. Plus she didn’t know he thought the one she likes is her master. She thought he knows and he didn’t. Though it’s kinda of silly bc she literally told him right before all that happened that she has feelings for him but bc she doesn’t know what love feels like she needs to confirm it using the love flower magic.(you’ll get it once you watch it). Then some things happened and he sacrificed a lot to save her life by taking on any pain she will have in the future despite still thinking she doesn’t love him. She is just confused by everything and then saw that his red thread no longer connected with her. She didn’t want to keep him from his fate so she just let him go to war. During that time, she wrote lots of letters to him and just express how much she miss him and regret letting fate (the red thread) stop her from being honest with him. After he came back she decided that fate doesn’t matter and she just going to go for it and confess to him multiple times and it’s actually pretty cute. He obiouvlsy can’t resist her but still refuse to believe it and keep pushing her away, partly bc he also doesn’t want her to know about what he did to save her. She’s insisting to hold onto him tho so we’ll see what happen next. Like it sounds more angsty than it is. Her chasing is actually quite cute and he couldn’t resist giving in a little so he’s not really mean mean to her, just doesn’t accept that it’s real.
May be I'm the only one but I think if you didn't skip introspective scene with the FL, you can kinda understand the delay in the FL acceptance. Honestly, I understand the ML's perspective as well and that he's just really slow in realizing his feelings. However, this girl spent 4 years being around him. We get glimpses of how close they are even while she's "setting him up w her friend". It's very obvious he noticed she might be into him. He might not fully realized that he felt the same. It's understandable that it took a little longer for him to realize. For us as viewers, the moment the guy is nice and sweet, we just want her to get w him already. But honestly for the FL character, she spent 4 years deeply in love w him. She got rejected and it had to take a lot to convince herself to be rational move on. However the hurt is there. She also probably felt unfair. Unfair that she spent so much effort and time on this crush and love him so much. Yet, in her perspective, it felt like he just made a decision yesterday that now he's into her. It probably felt very sudden and not earned. Is it fair to him? Not really bc it's not like he does it on purpose. But also I can understand her. Your heart is not rational. Sometimes when someone hurt you once, you know they're making up for it and you believed they're sincere. Logically, you know you should let it go. But your heart is still not there yet bc while he had the last few months of being "in love" with her, she spent 4 years being in love and felt the pain of having to wash it all away. After all the plagiarism thing, It seems like her brain has made peace w him but her heart is still unsure. I LOVE that she actually said that to him. You almost never see a conversation like that with these kind of plot. Often time, you just see them push and pull until it feels like the FL is just a brat. However, the way it's portrayed here by both the actress and the writing really help you feel the affection she's showing him while trying to resist letting herself get too deepp into it again. I like that once she realized he is serious (after the way she supported her through the plagiarism incident), she just admit to still liking him but also express her honest feeling about where she's at emotionally and that she's not really sure how to react with him. I appreciate that honesty. It's a short convo and not some cheesy long winded talk but it's very straight and honest. It gave him some reassurance but also give him a chance to show his sincerity and be patient w her.
I know at the beginning, a lot of ppl cringe at her crush. I did too LOL the wall of photos is a little crazy. Without the fairy lights and context, it felt like a freaking murder walll imma be honest. That said, most of her wild thoughts and moments are between herself and sometimes with friends but not in front of him. The way she confess is honestly such a boss move. The scenes we got to see of how she got close to him is actually quite adorable and sweet. She had a crush and she spent the time to get to know him, fell deeper and deeper in love and went for the kill once she smell a hint of his affection LOL Respect honestly. Aside from the photo wall part which is a little much (tho I'm also a little cold when it comes to crushes), I didn't mind her crush phase. I think our culture taught us to resist being honest w our feelings and expressing it even within ourselves, desperation is scary. That's why we cringe when seeing the innerworld of this girl so hopelessly in love and desperate for his love in return. But If we're all being honest, when we all have a crush, if we are as carefree and open w our feelings, we probably would be the same as her. For her character, it actually does make sense. Upon seeing more of how she got close to him, I can understand her crush more and more. Thus I also understand how hurt she was and the effort it took to suppress it all and be "cool". To open up that can a worm again given how deep her feelings are is very scary. That's why even tho it's not fair to him, she needed to feel more love from him that felt adequate to her own. I think the audience can interpret this in lots of ways and those who are a little less keen on diving analyzing feelings and emotions might not get it or still doesn't think she's justified and find it annoying. I think it actually made sense. It took a big event for her to feeel his love is more than just some flashy moves and fleeting feelings bc he was robbed of a familiar person. However, it still felt sudden and quick so the brain might have understand but her heart still not sure how to be around him again. They're now being honest about that and slowly resolving it. It felt more earned than her just completely forgiven him right after he support her w the scandal and move on like it's all kisses and rainbows. Our feelings aren't that simple to resolve. Now after she admit to herself what's going on in her heart, I truly start to feel the hurt will be able to resolve justifiably. You almost never see this process in these kind of dramas. Cliches work for a reason. With a good emotional writing in between, this actually makes a very cathartic watch if you're open to go through the up and down w the character and not too eager to judge. So far, altho there are some faults, overall, I'm happy w their progress.
Transfusion-associated graft-versus-host disease (TA-GVHD) when giving blood to your 1st degree relatives. It’s not impossible but very risky additional testing to match other criteria in the blood other than just blood type is needed, and the blood needs to be treated with a radiation procedure to ensure it is safe for transfusion and that process is very complicated and expensive to do. So it is not recommended for direct relatives to give blood to their kid unless it is absolutely the only option since it is so risky. TA-GVHD happens when the T cells in the donor’s blood might see the T cells of the patient as foreign and began attacking it, causing serious complications with high mortality rate. There’s no effective cure for it. Typically if the patient is healthy, their own T cell can win the fight against the donor’s T cell since there should be less of them. In that case, there shouldn’t be any problem. However if your immune system in compromised already bc of chemo or wev reason, your T cell will lose and lead to TA-GVHD.
Now, when we transfuse blood from a close relative (1st or second degree), the blood of the donor may be so similar to the blood of the patient that the patient’s immune system does not recognise the donor’s T-cells as foreign. In this case, there will be no battle. To the patient’s T-cells, those of the donor are friendly. However, now the donor’s T-cells will still recognise the patient’s tissue as foreign and will proliferate and attack unimposed. This may lead to TA-GvHD even in patients with a healthy immune system. This is why it’s a lot riskier to use blood from 1st degree relatives.
This is literally contrary to every drama I’ve seen about blood donation stuff LOOOL but I literally spent the last hour reading a research paper about this after this show 😂😂
Yeah it does feel a little frustrating when it seems like she abandon a lot just to be at the school the ML is in. However, it’s not like she’s chasing some cold aloof tsundere and she’s just some stupid underperforming student hopelessly chasing him. Their feelings were mutual and clearly expressed to one another from the start without making it official. She’s not a bad student either, just average to decent. She didn’t really know what she wants for a career much like everyone else in high school and was always told she’s not good enough by her mother. He helped her find her confidence in her studies and herself. Given the fact that she doesn’t really know what her dream is, she already wanted to join the ML anyways in school so she just made that her goal. I think the point of this arc is despite her reservations, she found the courage to confess herself and come at him confidently. It might have started bc of love but it still help her evolve from an awkward girl who’s uncomfortable with herself and too scare to face her feelings, to someone who has the gut to openly go after the guy she likes.
Regarding their break up, the way the comment made it seems silly. There are definitely misunderstanding but the main reason the ML cut off contact is bc of his family situation. Yeah he saw the FL with another boy when he’s back to visit. He’s just sad bc he had plans for her, but he didn’t cut contact for months bc of that. It’s bc right after that, he also hit with the bad news about his dad and his family. Now, the OP made it seem silly that he wants to break up with her bc of his family situation. I understand that. However I do want to put into perspective that 1. ML is also flawed. That’s the best part about this show. His flaw isn’t that he’s some awkward, cold tsundere. His flaw is he see himself as a protector. His family is a little cold but overall he grew up quite well off. Not rich but definitely financially well taken care of. He’s popular, nice and smart. He has lots of ambitions and expectations for his life and the life he wants to have with the FL. However, when a kid haven’t experienced hardships, his first family tragedy turned him from a lofty genius with a bright future into someone who has to take care of their sick parents, working part time jobs to make money, needing scholarships to stay in school, while still trying to work towards building the tech career he wants. ML typically depicted with almost infallible mental strength with some one dimensional trauma or quirk, who is determined and resolute in these romance drama. However, in this show, he is also just as flawed and stubborn as the FL but just different presentation. He is just a teenager who feels overwhelmed and inadequate. If the FL is insecure and not sure how he feels about her, the ML is too prideful and feel that as a struggling college student shackled with so many responsibilities, he’s no longer qualified to be the protector he wanted to be for her like high school. Now he’s the one who feels like he doesn’t deserve her. The higher you are the harder you fall. It sound silly but I think this is understandable given how young they are and his upbringing. His whole life he is always sure of himself and his future. His entire outlook of life has changed drastically and I think it make sense for him to let his own insecurities and inferiority complex make him hesitate to be with her. They are literally each other first love. It’s not like they are mature adults who felt these feelings before. I think the fact that they had moments of angst and overthinking are very normal. Most ppl are just conditioned to see men as this unshakable force in these shows and doesn’t take everyday struggle into account to empathize with them. The moment she appear again, he knows he can’t ignore her but can’t let go of his complex yet. He comes around eventually obviously and they are very cute. I think through this period, they jumped through their toughest inner saboteur and trauma. This to me is more realistic and heart warming than the almost way too perfect and mature reactions from literal teenagers having their first relationship. It’s so cute and light overall. There’s some misunderstandings but they really do get resolved pretty quick. What hold them up is not the misunderstanding but their own version of relational trauma and insecurities. But when one person step back, the other step up and provide the assurance they need and vice versa. In the process, the FL does grow and find her own path. There’s lots of little butterfly moments and tid bits that make you swoon. Even when they fight, this couple is still very sweet to each other. The ML is warm and soft with her even when they’re fighting. She also knows that and push him until he cave and run after her. I mean again what is youth if not these immature moments created by our own insecurities. They did some push and pull but you know the issue is not that deep and will resolve once they face their feelings. They still so clearly love each other through out the whole thing.
Overall, I think if you’re going in ready to rip into every little immaturity from the character and skip through scenes without both leads, instead of letting the show play out and absorb the nuances, this will be quite annoying. However, I think if you give it a chance, it’s a very special little show. Yeah it’s not all smooth sailing but its character driven and both leads are flawed in similar ways. This means they will act unreasonably sometimes and grow out of it. That’s the point of a YOUTH drama. You’re unreasonable and filled with self doubts when you’re young and first feel love. Even grown adults still struggle with that. We’re just better at dealing with it over the years.
Of course everyone has different opinions and expections when it comes to these shows. Some ppl prefer relax and smooth sailing, no angst type of show with lots of sweetness. I do like that too. However I was finding youth drama like that a little bland and I left it not remember much. This one stays with me even though I’ve seen it twice. I think it’s bc it made me feel things. I cried a lot with the FL a when she felt alone and don’t know how to express herself well. I relate to the character a lot. Yes we want bad ass FL who’s “not-like-other-girl” but ya know lots of young girls were told they were not good enough by families and society. Some never form meaningful friendship that help build them up. Lots of girls aren’t sure about who they are at that age and just bc she’s not a sassy quick witted tomboy, doesn’t mean she doesn’t have her own stubbornness and personality. That’s why they need to go through tough relationships and find who they are. Not sure if you’re going to read all this but I felt like I needed to show another point of view. It’s definitely not a perfect show of course, might not be your cup of tea but I know it hits lots of emotions for me and It successfully created more layers than a surface level one dimensional romance.
To say that you can just fight back and say no is kinda disregarding the situation they’re in and the mental space they are at. It doesn’t take two to tango if you’re being tied up and carried to dance whether you like it or not. Unlike schools in the west where the level of control one can have in school is limited to the kids or at most the parents and there are at least some options for escape. In Asia and specifically Korea and in this show, the level of cruelty as well as control these kids can have is crazy. It’s another thing when you’re an adult, have some what of a support system and foundation in society and the person bullying you can be held liable legally and have something to lose. Hence why it takes until then for our protagonist to take revenge but even then it comes at a cost of her whole life and ability to be happy bc she’s tormented mentally and physically by the hatred. I wouldn’t say it’s that great either but it’s definitely justified.Ultimately tell a child who is absolutely alone in that situation and literally was let down by every adult around them “well it’s kinda your fault for letting it happpen” is not ok. There’s so much more at play than just say oh just fight back then. I think taking the effort to understand the victim and place the blame on the system that created these monster and vicious cycle is much more important. I can’t imagine how I would feel if I’ve been through such horrific things and was told it’s in anyway my responsibility that I went through that. Kind of a messed up thing to say
1. The bullying in this show are based on real life cases. If you really can't understand the psychology a victim in these cases, you need to have more empathy and learn more about the mindset of the victim in these situations. In most cases with these bullies, they get off with a slap on the wrist or adults would ignore it, meaning they can easily keep bullying the victim and even their brother or sister. The real life case of the girl who was burned with a curling iron, she was in fear of the bullies. She knows they will easily get away so if she doesn't listen to them, she will just get it worse later on. They also threaten to hurt her brother instead if she doesn't listen. She was also a middle schooler. This si her life perimeters that she can see at the time. Even then when the adults found out, their first question to her is "what did you do to make them do this to you? not saying it's your fault but you must have done something to them". Even after it's found out, the bullies easily got off easy. They giggled and laughed as they were apologizing to her bc they were forced to. They are now living happily with no records of their behavior. So instead of leaving callous comments like "why didn't you just say no", may be have some empathy and don't turn to blame the victim. You might not have said explicitly but the insinuation that it's in any way their fault for not resisting enough is pretty callous and hurtful to the victims. The last thing they need to somehow blame themselves for their suffering. The only one responsible for the blame is the perpetrator.
2. In any decent film, a character's outfit is a refection of their personality and inner world. Dressing in black fits the dark state of mind she's always in, as she is haunted by her trauma and need for revenge. It sets the tone for who the character is. She's not a happy beam of sunshine who would wear pink and yellow. Her clothing fits her character and immediately create that dark air around her when she's on screen. It's obviously intentional.
3. May be try to not make fun of ppl appearance? It makes you seem really immature. May be reflect why you feel such a burning need to zone in on one feature of someone's face, so much so that you can't focus on a very intense story going on. It's one thing to jest about it to hate on a clearly hateful character, but if you're just picking apart the actor appearance for the sake of it.... you're starting to sound a whole lot like a bully yourself. I can't tell the tone you're going with for that comment but given everything else you said, it does not sound good. Just sayin.
4. What's the point of any group of bullies or evil organization ever? They can relate to each other's cruelty and it embolden their actions. They might hate each other because they're incapable of being kind and empathetic, but they know they won't feel judged for their sadistic tendency and can be openly cruel and feel justified by the ppl they're surrounded themselves with. They feed off each other and also feel the need to outdo each other. In a lesser degree of cruelty, this is how lots of toxic friend groups behave, especially in high school or middle school. Kids that age also lack impulse control and have a need for attention and validation. Creating fear makes them feel powerful and having a group of friend like that further validate that behavior, while also give you the motivation to outdo one another through putting each other down.