Kyubin

You seems to definitely have your own standards (if at 24 years old you can't consider a relationship with someone who is only 4 years younger), but it’s far different for others and I don’t think most of people would think the same. Objectively, when you’re in your twenties, there is nothing surprising to be attracted to a 17 year old person (or someone between 35/45 years too by the way). Many people in that age look (and/or are) very mature, so there is nothing wrong or illogical with that.
I get your point though, and honestly I myself don’t like big age gap relationships in real life, as I find it weird and potentially problematic. But that's just my own conception of relationships. And I don’t mind it here in this BL as it is fictional, neither the adult/minor thing, because to me it’s just a social norm. A 17 year old and a 19 old together wouldn’t represent a big age gap problem, but based on some countries laws and social norms it’d still be wrong. Which I find totally stupid.
I don’t say that adult/minor relationships is totally acceptable in Japan either, but I think they are more open and comprehensive towards it (and many other things not accepted elsewhere) than other cultures. Which is one of the reasons I personally like their productions. They are not afraid to show and question things that are totally taboos in other countries.
I guess I’m okay with the plot of the drama because it’s purely fictional to me. It might or might not be a realistic depiction of reality. But I don’t see the point to get fired up by it. If I don’t like or feel uncomfortable with a drama/movie plot I will just watch something else. It’s not like this drama is promoting pedophilia, so there isn’t anything morally wrong with it (but of course that depends on one's moral). Artistic creation doesn’t have to always be consensual. If there was only the same endless rom/com everywhere it would be very boring to watch dramas. It’s interesting to have plots that are a little controversial too, it also reflects reality. You're right to express your opinion here and it's always interesting to debate things, but if people are coming on you strong it's maybe also because you don't seems to accept others opinions and are harsh too in the way you express yours.

Your reasoning makes no sense to me because you mixed two different things and it's not logical. You speak about moral (which can be understandable depending on one's background), but use a legal argument for that. However, adult/minor differentiation is an abstract concept that is different based on the country and the cultures, and it's also different than sexual consent (legally or morally). And you speak about the fact that puberty hit people differently, which is an objective and biological reality, but in the end you don't accept the reality of that in humans relationships outside of social norms. Biologically speaking, a human being is not a kid anymore at 15 in general.
Your points on the plot and development are yours and I don't argue with that. But your fixation on the adult/minor thing is just a social conception that is not an objective thing. If that drama is allowed in Japan it's because it's nothing wrong in there. Either accept the different culture with his particularities or move on I would suggest.

I don't know if you watched the movie, so I don't know how to answer you, in case I'd reveal you the development of the story.

Not a single idol turned actor that I like in this list unfortunately.

What do you rely on objectively to say that "7 First Kisses", "Suspicious Partner", "Fabricated City", "Melting Me Softly", "Backstreet Rookie", "Lovestruck in the City", "Hard Hit" and "The Sound of Magic" are failures ?
Don't state something like a general fact to express your personal feelings, that's totally different.

That pregnant woman at the back of the truck was the most stupid thing of this drama seriously...
The latest hot scene was as boring as the previous ones (even Chahub's body couldn't drawn me in).
And that ending was just a relief of freedom because I still don't understand why I kept watching until the end even after I realised that drama was already a disaster after episode 1.

Well, the preview looks a little bit bland to me, but hopefully it will be more interesting to watch the drama. Let's see tomorrow.

Not fair, this is still far better than the crazy Thai ones.

Very excited for this sageuk. Three great actors as the Queen Dowager, the King and the Queen and a nice cast for the five princes too. I look especially forward to Moon Sang Min first big main role.
But once again, the original title is better.

Well, they sure seem close even after all this months, which is nice, but nothing official regarding their relationship status yet. They might have just become good friends.

I'm not very fond of the actors (they are good though) and the characters honestly, but still, it's a good and refreshing drama and I like that it's a BL with a real relationship since the start. Also, the bluntness it has regarding the physical desires compared to the usual Japanese BLs is interesting. It feels more realistic.

I don't agree, it can also be interesting without heavy sexual references. Heterosexual or homosexual, it doesn't matter. Sex is a part of relationships (not for everybody actually), but there are far more in relationships than that.
As for the "everyone", I was quoting you. Not all 7 other men where focused on Chang Min, there were other interests and bonds too.

Euh... no. Not "everyone" was focus on Chang Min even though it is true that he was the star of the show for the obvious reasons you mentioned. But more importantly, because it's about homosexuals it has to be sexual ? What a bad cliché, and such a degrading way to view people based on their sexuality only, not as human beings. You can just watch porn for that.

What a disappointment. An episode for (almost) nothing.
As I was thinking last week, half of the episode is focus on secondary characters this week. I like the character of Sakurako, and Asuka a lot too, he is very cute and deserves his own drama. But we have gone nowhere with Akira and Shin, and next episode preview doesn't seems to show a lot of progress either so we are good for them being together only in the last episode.
That's really a shame, it could have been better. It's only getting frustrating. Like every time Akira finally want to settle things with Sakuma-sensei there is something happening (it's not even funny after all this time), and he can't just take 30 seconds to just clear Shin's delusions about him still liking Sakuma-sensei. How stupid is that ? The actors are really great but the story is really losing his charm of the first episodes unfortunately.

I understand and agree with you actually. And I believe it could have really been different with a longer format. Yes, you can create a bond within a week when living with someone, but you can't expect much though. It has to develop after. So that's why I don't think it should be taken too seriously.
Also, you mentioned something important at the end. Jeong Hyun could have (and should have actually) speaks up about the room thing at the camp site if he really didn't want to miss the chance to spend more time with him. Blaming Chang Min only doesn't feel right because passiveness is equaly annoying for me. Yes Chang Min seems either genuinely clueless or playing dumb about some of his behaviours, which can be annoying (and it is for me too, I'd have loved to see them share the room for their final night), but if his behaviour is genuine, which I still want to believe, well, the other party is to blame too for not saying anything and just being jealous and disheartened by himself. To me Chang Min just went with the flow because he wanted to surf, he didn't really choose Hyeon, he just followed. I don't think his potential feelings must be doubted based on that, he was pretty honest and straightforward with Jeong Hyun before so the latter should put some faith in it too. There is no perfection here, just two people with their personalities and flaws.

Yes, that's summarise it. The idea of the show is good but it would have been better with a budget allowing a one month shooting. With a week, nothing serious or "real" can be expected.

Well, I don't personally know him but just to share my thoughts on him, from all he said and showed on social medias over the last years, Chang Min likes receiving attention for sure (I mean, anybody doing a reality show or being very active on social medias is, no ?). He definitely don't have any problem to find boyfriends, or friends with benefits, and knows how to use his alluring personality and physique. But I also think he doesn't have bad intentions and really don't see what's wrong in some of his actions than can be seen as insensitive by others. He has an innocent side too and is quite honest and straightforward when asked a question, but he is also a free soul that don't like obsessiveness. The show was just a week so I don't think him or any participant expected a real relationship out of it. Jeong Hyun is cute and they'd make a nice couple (it would actually be nice if they have genuinely developed a real relationship after the show), but to me he doesn't really seem the ideal type Chang Min described many times in the past (he likes cute younger men but not feminine ones, which Jeong Hyun seems to be a little bit, even by Korean standards). I don't think the show is scripted but it's a show, it shouldn't be taken too seriously, they are mostly doing it to gain popularity and opportunities, not really to find love I believe. ^^

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Some comments are funny. ^^ Why take this show so seriously ? It's a dating reality show, it may be not staged but it's definitely not 100% authentic neither, the participants kind of act a bit. They only spent a week together, you can't expect real relationship from just that. Maybe after the show, if some of them met again (I think it was shoot around April), but it must be watch like a divertissement, not something serious. Chang Min was on a straight dating show in 2017 just because he wanted to appear on Mnet for example. It's just like "Single’s Inferno", it's a good way for them to gain some popularity and new opportunities but I doubt they really look for a serious relationship thanks to this show.

Chang Min is actually really considered handsome in Korea, either for men or women. He is tall, have a slim body, not very muscular but still athletic and with good proportions. His face has soft traits, charming eyes and thick lips. A fair skin. And a "quiet" personality which gives him a lot of charm too. And Chang Win was the most popular participant even before the show thanks to his social medias activities. He "officially" came out in 2020 through a live streaming Korean platform with a famous gay YouTube, and he was also famous for working in a waxing shop near Seoul University (I was actually surprised to see in the show that he owns a restaurant now). And actually, it's obvious (from his past activities more than the show) that he is the type to play innocent (I think he is not clueless but instead very sharp to notice things), like he knows his power of seduction and the benefits he can get but still keep a modest facade and pretend he don't understand the situation sometimes, something than is also appreciated in Korea. So yes, no surprise he is the "star" of the show.