Nobody is excusing SA. Most people defending Lu Feng are talking about the story as a dark fictional narrative,…
I do understand your point, honestly. Nobody is saying you canāt be uncomfortable with the character or dislike the possibility of him getting a happy ending. Thatās completely valid, especially with a story this dark. Fiction has always explored messy, immoral and disturbing characters without that reflecting peopleās real morals.
At the end of the day weāre all reacting differently to the same story, and thatās fine.
The fact that a large amount of people here is okay with the SA is highly alarmingšI also love a flawed character,…
Exactly. What gets me is they KEEP watching even though they already know it has SA, toxic dynamics and abusive characters.
There are countless soft, healthy BLs out there instead of camping under every post acting morally superior over fictional media. In Abo desire or was it TMY i can't remember which of them, i remember someone was complaining how someone close to her was SA'd and that they didn't know the drama involved SA and that will stop watching because they were triggered. She commented again later saying they spoke and will continue to watch it.
The fact that a large amount of people here is okay with the SA is highly alarmingšI also love a flawed character,…
No need replying. Iāll keep saying it: arguing with moral police is like talking to a damn wall. They never actually want discussion.
If you donāt like a story, say your piece and MOVE ON. Simple. Nobody is forcing you to watch it. There are plenty of BLs especially Thai bl i personally find boring, overly cute, unrealistic or like some fairytale fantasy nonsense, and you know what i do? I stop watching and mind my business. I donāt camp under every post crying about how problematic or bad it is every single day.
Some of them are genuinely obsessed at this point. You hate these stories so much yet you never shut up about them. Itās exhausting.
They will have a melt down when LF kidnaps Xiao Chenšš and i will be here for it all.
Couldnāt agree more every genre has its own elements, so why would anyone want them all watered down into the…
Yeah, i just remembered someone complaining that Fan Xiao smokes too much and that they should have toned it down and it will make people want to smoke and that smoking is badšš and i was like, what? Where were talks of unprotected sex in bls but it is smoking that was the problem.
That smoking was literally one of the things that made Fan Xiao so hot.
THANK YOU š finally someone with actual media literacy in these comments!! Like⦠why are people watching…
Itās honestly exhausting. Iāve seen comments and i noticed you were still trying to explain, but it sometimes feels like talking to a wall š«āit just drains you after a while.
I do hope we eventually get remakes of Uncontrollable Love and Addicted though, so they can have more things to obsess about.
There are already plenty of green flag cbl that are ongoing, ones they can enjoy, but no they don't watch it and leave those of us who like darker and complex stories can stick with what we enjoy without constant arguments over it.
I have dropped alot of soft bl over the years because most storyline are basic and not creative enough... watch what you like.
Some people really need to stop asking for this to be turned into some green flag version when the whole point of the story is how abusive, obsessive, and messed up Lu Feng is. If you remove that, youāre not adapting the story anymoreāyouāre rewriting it into something completely different, and honestly, nobody would even watch that.
There are plenty of soft āgreen flagā Chinese BLs already, but somehow this is the one moral police wants to police and sanitise. And letās be honest, most of you havenāt even watched those green flag cblsāyouāre just zeroing in on the toxic ones and then acting shocked. Kind of ironic, isnāt it? Almost feels like an obsession at this point... because most of you SAW the first trailer.
From Revenged Love, to ABO Desire, to To My Shore, and now thisāsome of us are not new to darker, toxic narratives. We understand what weāre watching. Enjoying these stories doesnāt mean condoning anything in real life, and itās exhausting having to repeat that over and over just because people refuse to separate fiction from reality.
Itās like saying that because someone enjoys crime documentaries or psychological thrillers about serial killers, it means they support or are one themselves.
Can't believe SA is just thrown in there as a plot point in the big 2026
Lan Lin is one of the first-generation danmei writers, and most of her works came out in the early 2000s. Sheās widely known for writing very dark stories, so the shock from some viewers is confusing. If you remove the darker elements, the entire story basically falls apart. Even the drama has already toned things down quite a bit compared to the original novel. At some point, what more do people actually expect?
ohhh puleeze! yeah drop it if you can't stomach it... so much worse is coming. Lawd knows there is enough fluff…
Understanding why toxic fictional characters exist in dark stories is not the same as supporting SA in real life, and some of us can separate fiction from reality without turning into moral police over what others watch or read.
Keep crying. You moral police condemn and complain and still keep watching.
there is no excusing SA, he did what he did and idfc what yalls perspective is on lu feng anymore. i was rooting…
Nobody is excusing SA. Most people defending Lu Feng are talking about the story as a dark fictional narrative, not saying his actions are morally correct in real life. You are completely free to hate him and not forgive him, but acting like everyone who still finds the character interesting has no conscience is exactly where fandom discussions become exhausting.
Dark BL, dark romance and psychological stories have always explored toxic, obsessive and morally messed up characters. That does not mean viewers suddenly support those actions in reality. People consume mafia stories, murder thrillers and revenge dramas without supporting murder too.
Also, blaming fictional BL stories for homophobia is unfair. Homophobic people were homophobic long before Lu Feng existed. Straight media has normalized toxic men, cheating, assault and abuse for decades, yet nobody says heterosexuality itself is the problem. The issue is the behavior of the character, not the sexuality.
You do not have to want redemption for Lu Feng, and honestly a lot of fans agree he should suffer for what he did. But other people enjoying a dark fictional character or wanting a complicated ending does not automatically make them immoral or abnormal either.
Fiction has always explored messy, immoral and disturbing characters without that reflecting peopleās real morals.
At the end of the day weāre all reacting differently to the same story, and thatās fine.
There are countless soft, healthy BLs out there instead of camping under every post acting morally superior over fictional media. In Abo desire or was it TMY i can't remember which of them, i remember someone was complaining how someone close to her was SA'd and that they didn't know the drama involved SA and that will stop watching because they were triggered. She commented again later saying they spoke and will continue to watch it.
*sigh*
If you donāt like a story, say your piece and MOVE ON. Simple. Nobody is forcing you to watch it. There are plenty of BLs especially Thai bl i personally find boring, overly cute, unrealistic or like some fairytale fantasy nonsense, and you know what i do? I stop watching and mind my business. I donāt camp under every post crying about how problematic or bad it is every single day.
Some of them are genuinely obsessed at this point. You hate these stories so much yet you never shut up about them. Itās exhausting.
They will have a melt down when LF kidnaps Xiao Chenšš and i will be here for it all.
That smoking was literally one of the things that made Fan Xiao so hot.
I do hope we eventually get remakes of Uncontrollable Love and Addicted though, so they can have more things to obsess about.
There are already plenty of green flag cbl that are ongoing, ones they can enjoy, but no they don't watch it and leave those of us who like darker and complex stories can stick with what we enjoy without constant arguments over it.
I have dropped alot of soft bl over the years because most storyline are basic and not creative enough... watch what you like.
There are plenty of soft āgreen flagā Chinese BLs already, but somehow this is the one moral police wants to police and sanitise. And letās be honest, most of you havenāt even watched those green flag cblsāyouāre just zeroing in on the toxic ones and then acting shocked. Kind of ironic, isnāt it? Almost feels like an obsession at this point... because most of you SAW the first trailer.
From Revenged Love, to ABO Desire, to To My Shore, and now thisāsome of us are not new to darker, toxic narratives. We understand what weāre watching. Enjoying these stories doesnāt mean condoning anything in real life, and itās exhausting having to repeat that over and over just because people refuse to separate fiction from reality.
Itās like saying that because someone enjoys crime documentaries or psychological thrillers about serial killers, it means they support or are one themselves.
If you remove the darker elements, the entire story basically falls apart. Even the drama has already toned things down quite a bit compared to the original novel. At some point, what more do people actually expect?
Keep crying. You moral police condemn and complain and still keep watching.
Dark BL, dark romance and psychological stories have always explored toxic, obsessive and morally messed up characters. That does not mean viewers suddenly support those actions in reality. People consume mafia stories, murder thrillers and revenge dramas without supporting murder too.
Also, blaming fictional BL stories for homophobia is unfair. Homophobic people were homophobic long before Lu Feng existed. Straight media has normalized toxic men, cheating, assault and abuse for decades, yet nobody says heterosexuality itself is the problem. The issue is the behavior of the character, not the sexuality.
You do not have to want redemption for Lu Feng, and honestly a lot of fans agree he should suffer for what he did. But other people enjoying a dark fictional character or wanting a complicated ending does not automatically make them immoral or abnormal either.