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If anything, her character in the last episode was so healed/recovered/confident and self-loving, I was needing to suspend a lot of belief to appreciate it. Some might say for that there should have been more episodes because of how extreme or fast this transformation was, but I am thankful there wasn't. I Think it was a perfect length (I couldn't have suspended much more belief for much longer).

I 100% agree! Thank you for this comment. You said it much better than I.

I just want to add a counter message to all the people who say they don't like the main female character. She is dealing with all the quintessential effects of low self-confidence and psychologically abusive parents. The fact that she isn't worse off is frankly surprising considering her mother and father's treatment of her. And even if she hadn't had such psychologically abusive parents, self-confidence that low is completely valid and not to be looked down upon. Her feelings of inadequacy and skepticism of his feelings towards her are completely natural and understandable for someone in her position, especially if you've been told all your life by those who "should" love you most that you are worthless and that love is contingent on perfection. If her constant debasement of herself and her self-worth, as well as her questioning of his feelings for her is frustrating to certain viewers, that's understandable. However, it doesn't mean it's a wrong or innacruate depiction of someone's feelings or reactions to the situation she finds herself in. And for others, it is HIGHLY RELATABLE and a wonderful story to watch because of her gorgeous character transformation, especially because it's not thanks to a guy (or mostly not thanks to a guy) but through her finding her own self-confidence and self-love

OMG Thank you so much for this. I was wondering. The age-gap tags confused me so much.

I'd be interested in potentially getting the ending for the second couple spoiled. I've watched a lot of clips and I know how I would want it to end... I think that's part of why I keep considering it.

Oh damn. That just completely shifted my perspective. none of the four wanted that to happen. Thank you sharing that. I'm going to have to sit with this for a bit.

It says transactional, does that mean he consents to the ... experiences that need consent? Uhhh, I guess I'm asking, is there consent exchanged for the BDSM?

Also, which do you feel is less toxic, this show or Revenged Love, and how so?

I know I probably shouldn't watch this given my discomfort with M preg and non-consensual anything, but I'm so intrigued by the second couple's story.

For the show in its entirety, and there might be a better place to ask this question, but are all the sex scenes wholly or partially nonconsensual? Is it just the first ones with each couple? Is there acknowledgement of the coercion (to quote another discussion, "acknowledgement of the coercion in these interactions through the characters experiencing trauma or changing their relationship with the perpetrators or by renegotiating their boundaries?") Does one or the other happen with both couples? i.e. do you feel comfortable with the eventual foundation of their relationships in the end - coercion being addressed and maybe negotiated out (making up this phrase) of the relationship?

Most importantly of all, and I know this is subjective, but how uncomfortable did it make people feel? I see Hua Yong being manipulative in every clip I've watched and have never seen moments where he seems non-toxic. I'm more interested in the second couple, but I don't know how to watch the show without also watching/learning about the first couple. Feel free to respond with the spoiler button selected.

Thanks! I see Ballerino_KAI's instructions below which are fantastic, however, all they say about subtitles is that "I'm just making do with the auto translated captions." Someone else said, "turn on live caption in your browser," but that too mystifies me. I'm imagining something either like YT, where it's a setting in the video player (sounds too easy) or is it a new feature of Chrome that I'm unaware of. I even have the Google Translate extension, but it's for selecting ... stationary text to translate. Any ideas? I'd love to live translate literally all of the videos I'm watching at times.

When you say "turning on live caption in your browser" what do you mean by that? Is it like YT where it's in video, is it another extension, or is it a new feature of Chrome that I'm unaware of?

Didn't really like it. There were points I was engaged and wanted to know what happened next, but they kind of made the good guys bad and the bad guys good. Like the male lead, who was all happy go lucky turned out to be a revenge-obsessed, lying hater, and the main character was an absolute asshole, and somehow had the male lead fall in love with her, even though she acted like the toxic male lead of a kdrama, and what character growth she had didn't make up for her shitiness beforehand. Yeah, she was remorseful and apologetic, and made one or two nice decisions in the end, so all is not lost, but considering all she did - to him, her friends, her colleagues, her clients, esentially anyone who stood in her way, I still hated her at the end even if we got like an episode and a half of her being a good person.

ALSO, their gay character was just a caricature of society's view of a gay man - shallow, self-obsessed, and handsy. Gay men do NOT want to feel up, get handsy with, or cling to every cute guy they meet! Just like if you're straight, you don't feel like doing that to every person of the opposite gender. You didn't have to show him feeling up the male lead EVER! That was a CHOICE the producers made - either out of ignorance or homophobia. It's 2024, you &@%$! You even had 2 actors from BLs in your cast. You have no excuse.

The drama had potential, though. At least it had a queer character and it dealt with issues like discrimination in the workplace (not that that's new in kdramas anymore sadly). I also have to give the main characters props for their incredible acting. Props, Props, Props

Do we know where it will be streamed internationally?

Is it just me, or did I completely miss the part where he says, "Your sister is cute" then they start a relationship? Was it in the opening credits? All I saw is him walking in, complimenting her on her domestic skills, telling the brother he likes that about Mai, and then starts talking about how he wants to call his girlfriend by her first name. This is 3 minutes in. Where did they become boyfriend and girlfriend? I thought he must have been talking about someone else because they'd barely interacted.

Wait, how do you translate subs live?

(I'm not talking about his appearance but his personality (character he's portraying, it's personality is so different from the other roles I've seen him in. Hella good acting, that))

Would you mind spoiling the ending for me?

Though this is a minority opinion (understandably), I thought I'd add an alternative take for viewers. I still like the newer remake better. In this one, Takashi starts out too sleazy for my taste, but then again, it allows us to see his extraordinary character development. Overall, I liked the plot point changes the remake made. I won't mention them so as to not include any spoilers, but they have a lot to do with the ending and characters' choices.

However, this one, I loved how they explicitly discussed the unique form of their relationship, and I do feel like I felt their bond more in this one (yes, some would call it chemistry, but their relationship isn't a conventional romantic relationship (maybe something deeper, we might say), so the word bond is a better choice). I will also admit I cried almost three times and that is very rare for me these days when it comes to dramas.

Where?! J'adore lire les sous-titres en francais !

what was the off screen issue? (Will it make me sad, because maybe then I don't want to know...). And how good is the romance in the anime and source material? WHich one is best do you think?