Porsche being drugged means that was rape. Even though the drugs weren't given to him by Kinn, even though it wasn't violent and Porsche kissed back, it's still rape. I reflexively want to apologize. I also want to keep watch, but how can I reconcile that with knowing that was rape. I don't want people - men and women and any gender - watching this and thinking that was ok - ok to happen in their lives, in a relationship. I know they were using it as a plot point to get them together, I know it was unlikely this would have happened so early in the plot had Porshe not been DRUGGED (admittedly be someone else, but it's still rape), but it's a story. **They could have done it after he sobered up. Kinn took care of him and showed him genuine courtesy, care, gentleness, and respect. That would have been a perfect reason/way for them to sleep together consensually. Am I a hypocrite for wanting to keep watching?If you still disagree with me after that (subjectively) beautiful alternative to this scene that still gets us to the same place, please watch this video first before commenting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZwvrxVavnQ (it's great. You should watch it either way)
Trigger warning, and apologies to those who feel pained to read this, but I have to say this, but even if he would have gone willingly, even if he expressed interest and would have loved to had he not been drugged, he still was drugged by her, so it's rape. Everything else was beautiful.
Stop. Not a hard word to understand.Actually, it's 100% comprehensible. Nothing wishy-washy there. He said stop and no, multiple times=Sexual assaultand not the, oops I touched your butt, kind of sexual assault. I'm so tired of this. Can't authors think of any other ways of getting the same results without assault? I can think of several storylines, and somehow they end up even hotter with consent. Imagine that.
Most awkward episode of all time. Still watched it
They could and probably should have ended it at episode 9. I have never seen anything more awkward - the scenario, actors trying to act the stupid scenario... at least there wasn't a boom mike falling from the sky. Really. I stayed because the characters' stories and actors had brought me in and I wanted to stay with them until the end. There were still little gems hidden in the mix, but it still was painful to watch. You could tell Gim An/Kim Yong Seok had had enough.
I love this show but I have to comment on that race
As a runner I have to do my due diligence and point out a couple things that would’ve disqualified Su Yu if this had been an actual race. Mostly because of Wu Bi. As always. First he stepped out of bounds to try and pass those three blocking him. Understandable. But still clearly out of bounds and clearly disqualification material. Second Wu Bi running next to him is called pacing. This is illegal in any sort of run because it gives the runner a huge advantage. Just believe me. (Watch the BL Mr. Heart if you don’t believe me). Finally, Wu Bi literally gets on the track! No Wu Bi! And then runs through the finish line BEFORE Su Yu, which means Su Yu doesn’t get an accurate time and wouldn’t have actually broken the record. Ok. I’m done. This is one of my favorite shows THIS YEAR. Maybe in a couple years. So I’m saying this out of LOVE.
This depiction of Fatherhood is Beautiful. Needs to be everywhere. +Comfortable Relationship
1. I love the Main couple's dynamic right now. It's COMFORTABLE. You can see their minds are on the same level, more than just intellectually. I don't feel like I've ever seen anything like it before on TV. But that probably has in part to do with the skill of the actress/ors. 2. this is the most incredible depiction of fatherhood. Well, it's incredible that they've depicted it like that. We need to see this in ALL television. ALL media!!! FOREVER!! It's sad that I even need to say this but it makes it so much cooler that we have this (and from china). This is how a manly man is. He loves his child. He plays with his child. He will do anything for his child. PS: I feel lik this was once webtoons. It reminds me a lot of the Remarriage Contract but with a stronger female lead... just better. That webtoons is getting toxic.
The way the portrayed everything in “Africa” was SO bad. Imagine if you were anyone of color watching that... It makes me feel extreme shame for everyone Involved. Ick, it’s like when they had slaves dance around and look marry whenever they wanted to put them up for sale on the auction block. Those are people g-dammit, not the worshiping minions you portrayed them to be! Dancing around a well. They’d likely say that I you and shake hands like other human beings. Wow. Just wow.
Uea apologizing has gone from what is essentially victim blaming to gaslighting.
WRITERS having Uae apologize for things that are 100% someone else's fault is worse than victim blaming. He seems to have been gaslighted. He should NOT apologize for getting angry when King yelled at him for going into the room with Krit. He was doing worse than victim-blaming. He should be the #1 person there for Uea. Instead, he literally implied that Uae was asking for sexual assault - right after Uea went through an attempted rape! King should be groveling. and Uea still shouldn't forgive him for a loooong time. And this isn't the only time. The first time they have sex? Someone as drunk as Uea was... if you're too drunk to walk on your own you're too drunk to give consent. Whether it was rape or not (it was rape), UEA SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN THE ONE TO APOLOGIZE. We all know that when sober, King would be the last person Uea would want to sleep with. So, alcohol was used as a plot device. No wonder alcohol is the #1 date rape drug. Uea saying "i was being too reckless," reckless is getting sh*t-faced and begging the person you hate most rn to “stay with me.” That’s it! That’s all on him. The rest is on King. WRITERS: King, could have been even sexier, and despite his overwhelming attraction to Uea, he wrenched his face away with a pained look, and slept on the couch… with a very demanding hard-on, or after a VERY cold shower. King is so good at giving Uae longing looks, it would have been a riveting scene. OR Uea could have been sober! Wow, what a thought! Their relationship could have started out with something that wasn't essentially rape. I mean, he was already cracking under his cheating boyfriend and his abusive mother, so after he gets that text from his mom in the bathroom, he just cracks, and instead of drowning himself in alcohol… he drowns himself in King. He wanted to do what hurt most in an already painful life. Sleeping with King was self-flagellation.Long story short, WRITERS please stop having Uea apologize, and let King do what he should have all along; every time.
They had TESTING for STDs on LIVE TELEVISION (or well, international television)! It was beautiful. It was sexy. It is what every person on this planet who's having sex should see. NO SHAME. Ugh, how could they make getting tested so SEXY. Just having it mentioned would have been a huge leap for humankind. But they made it a key plot point for the episode and it ADDED to the TENSION. To the SExUAL Tesions. And I'M ASEXUAL, and I felt the beautiful, invigorating, sexual waves just coming off the scene UGH! This is sp fantastic. I can't even!
That was the most embarrassing storyline. It felt like it was written by a 12 year old kid. So it really is a testament to these actors that not only they didn't die of embarrassment on the spot, but they were able to act convincingly, especially Tu, but no surprise there. Everything else was so cringy I feel so bad for the actors.
Fu Li Gong asked Zheng Ze Shou to wait for him and Zheng Ze Shou smiled and stopped. It was beautiful. Not just this depiction of consent freely given and happily respected, but that they choose to show that!!! And instead of a sex scene. I’m the non. It was hotter than a sex scène. I’m so happy. This needs to be on TV so the time. Thank you thank you thank you. Consent means so much to me. Especially in bl.
Absolutely blown away by Seong Hyuk’s acting. And the story line is SOOO D*MN good. But in this episode, the storyline was good BECAUSE of Seong Hyuk’s acting.
That really sums it up. This episode had the most beautiful scene out of all Chinese dramas. The moment when the father starts to speak about how it breaks his heart that his sons are not his by blood, my heart starts to break. And when he goes on to his feelings when he sees their blood relatives hit or retraumatize his sons, my tears start to fall. And when he reveals all the sadness his sons tried to hide from him - he sees it all, he truly sees them, I'm bawling. It was the scene I was waiting for all season, and it couldn't have been better. (though I wish men could express these things without needing to be under the influence of alcohol or extreme duress).
I love how He Yan saves Mr. Chu. Even though he's still the second male lead, it's always great to see the female lead save the male lead so overtly without the male lead saving her in return like a counterbalance. Even better was Cheng Lisu's support of Song Taotao. Never even having to be convinced to "let" her go somewhere dangerous/only a man should go. He supports her each time unwaveringly, to her shock and sadly ours. You could tell he would have advocated for her choice even if it was dangerous or unwomanly. I know he's less "manly" than Xiao Jue, but it still means a lot - to have a man so confident in a woman's abilities and so willing to support her and respect her. I can't even say that about Xiao Jue, though he obviously respects and doesn't underestimate He Yan's abilities at all; it just gets overshadowed by his need to protect - his constant reminders that she's a woman. This is such a feminist show for China, I'm loving it and I hope they don't ruin it.Also He Yan's speech to the women at the training ground was MARVELOUS, and I love how Xiao Jue totally supported her with that. His eyes were saying, that's why I love her.
I've really been enjoying this whole drama. The case is incredible, and their acting is literally some of the best I've seen from ANY drama (and I'm a prolific drama watcher). But what stuck out to me from this episode was the music. The background music for the last part of the episode was so beautiful and it fit the scene perfectly. Thank you for creating such a beautiful drama!