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Replying to winmyheart Sep 9, 2023
You're really making it sound like you don't know about the symptoms of anxiety. Chi Hoon's reaction may come…
I read your entire comment, but I have no clear memory of the other scenes so I didn't mention them. I'm currently talking about Chi-Hoon's behavior, not anything else.

I wouldn't say he had an anxiety attack, I didn't perceive it that way.

But just to mention, anxiety attacks feel longer to the person who's experiencing them. Nightmares feel longer than dreams, don't they?
How an anxiety attack "magically disappears" differs from person to person and from time to time. A distraction from your racing thoughts might be enough to calm you down, but sometimes you may need someone to guide your breathing and help you get yourself together- there's no correct way to stop an anxiety attack.
Replying to MAMAS BOY Sep 6, 2023
EP 11 COMMENT WHILE WATCHINGCHI HOON’s character is beginning to be really irritating. First, he was just a…
You're really making it sound like you don't know about the symptoms of anxiety.
Chi Hoon's reaction may come off as an "overreaction" but that's exactly what anxiety is, as a person with an anxiety disorder myself I can confidently tell you that Chi Hoon is anxious and insecure, and that makes him overthink the situation with the patient. I'm not saying he has an anxiety disorder or anything, but everyone feels anxious sometimes, and that's exactly what the case was with Chi Hoon.

Those scenes were amazingly down-to-earth and relatable to me, it portrays anxiety really well. They aren't "poorly written and directed"
Replying to Luna Jen Jul 19, 2023
Title La Pluie Spoiler
Just a question for everyone: Would you date someone who likes and kisses your brother before? Is this disturbing…
It was explained that he just misunderstood his platonic feelings as well as his admiration towards Tai for romantic feelings, he never really liked Tai in the way he liked Tien, his film project has shots of Tien so he subconsciously already knew he liked him before confirming his feelings.
Replying to leea Jul 6, 2023
Title La Pluie
@winmyheart Well said!! I feel like the realism of the characters depth was lost on a lot of people whom are looking…
Yep, exactly!
Replying to zamperx Jul 4, 2023
Title La Pluie
Tai and Lomfon annoyed me the most in this episode. Lomfon tried to steel someone else's bf and Tai lied to his…
They weren't, but Tai didn't indicate the kiss with Lomfon in any way. Tai was kissed by Lomfon, Lomfon kissed Tai, Lomfon and Tai didn't kiss each other.
Replying to leea Jul 4, 2023
Title La Pluie
@winmyheart Well said!! I feel like the realism of the characters depth was lost on a lot of people whom are looking…
Exactly! Some viewers can't comprehend characters being realistically flawed and claim anything and everything as toxic if they're not all "good guys".

I'm glad that my take came through and I agree with yours as well!
Replying to Charles Rodrigues Jul 4, 2023
Title La Pluie
The only interpretation of Tai's brilliant phrase is that he wanted to manipulate the situation once again so…
That's simply not true, you can interpret it that way (like Patts most likely did at first) but it's not what Tai meant by it.
On La Pluie Jul 3, 2023
Title La Pluie
I feel like a lot of people (ironically) misunderstood the phrase "If you can't understand my silence, you won't understand my words"- said by Tai.

The phrase doesn't mean that Tai expects Patts to understand everything by mind reading Tai or trying to understand him without any explanation. The phrase means that if Patts doesn't understand the reason WHY Tai is silent, he won't be able to have a proper conversation with him.

What's the reason Tai is silent? He knows that both of them have to sort out their thoughts first, because there's a lot more to discuss than just "choosing between Patts and Lomfon". This incident wouldn't have occurred if only Tai and Patts had communicated properly beforehand. Patts didn't tell Tai about his conversation with Lomfon before, even though it affects Tai as well. Meanwhile, Tai lied to Patts about his whereabouts. No character is a "villain", it's all about our different morals and viewpoints. Both of them were in the wrong and they need to sort their thoughts first before advancing further. Tai tried to tell Patts multiple times that they should discuss all of this later, but Patts was desperate. Only once the damage had been done did Patts realize how blindly he reacted and didn't even consider Tai's feelings or reasons for doing what he did.

I'm not on anyone's side in this, they both regret what they did and they'll talk it through later. What annoys me is people's misinterpretation of the writing, having depth and imperfections in characters doesn't mean the writing is weak, it means that it's realistic. If this was bad writing we wouldn't be discussing the morals of the character's actions, rather we would be complaining how unrealistic the writer's decisions are. This is realistic, but it might not be everyone's cup of tea.

La Pluie's perception of love isn't just flowers. The flowers need rain, space, and sunlight to grow. This works in real life as well. The only interruptions in a relationship aren't just love triangles, possessive exes, or unaccepting families- it's most commonly caused by the miscommunication between the ones in the relationship. La Pluie depicts this beautifully.
Replying to Odessa_lady Jul 3, 2023
Title La Pluie
I wonder who came up with such a “wonderful” phrase like “If you can’t understand my silence, you won’t…
The phrase means that if Patts can't understand WHY Tai is silent, he's not capable of understanding whatever Tai was going to say.
Replying to winmyheart Jul 3, 2023
Title La Pluie Spoiler
(I'm pretty sure you mixed Tian and Tai up) Wouldn't it feel illogical that Tai said all of that in that situation?…
As a writer myself I actually loved that line, and I may even use it in one of my novels.

What I imagined Tai meant by that line is that Patts didn't acknowledge that he himself was in no state to understand whatever Tai was going to say, and since Tai kept quiet since Patts wouldn't be able to communicate properly, he told him that if he doesn't understand why he's silent (the reason being that they weren't in a state to have a proper conversation) then he won't be able to understand whatever he was going to say. If Patts was in his right mind he would've understood that both of them needed to sort their own thoughts before advancing further with the conversation. Patts has been in a relationship before, he should know that conversations won't go anywhere if you're both overwhelmed. He was so shocked in that situation that it's understandable he wouldn't understand Tai, but it's the best thing Tai could've done in that situation in my opinion.
Replying to Bogler™ Jul 3, 2023
Title La Pluie
Tai - a TOTAL IDIOT and A**HOLETian - a true friend and brother. I pity this guy. Lomfon - a JERKPhat - i understand…
How exactly is the writer a newbie? (asking as a writer myself)
Replying to zamperx Jul 3, 2023
Title La Pluie
Tai and Lomfon annoyed me the most in this episode. Lomfon tried to steel someone else's bf and Tai lied to his…
That's your opinion, and I respect that. We can view things differently, this is what this episode was about. What I've been trying my best to convey is that both of them were in the wrong, neither of them was the "villain" nor the "hero", neither of them are perfect. I'm not on anyone's side but I empathize with Tai more since a lot of people seem to misunderstand his behavior exactly like Patts did.
Replying to zamperx Jul 3, 2023
Title La Pluie Spoiler
Most ridiculous and out of character episode yet. If that's serving, then yes it did.
I've never seen my older brother angry but I would still be hesitant on telling him something that I know would upset him. Think about that.

While Tai isn't right for what he did, he still had a valid reason to lie, and I'm 100% sure he would've told about his meeting with Lomfon after it ended, he just knew that Patts would butt in if he told him about it before or during their hang-out.

From your viewpoint, wouldn't it mean that Patts is also a cold-hearted liar? He never told Tai about HIS talk with Lomfon, even though it affected Tai. Honestly, if Patts had told Tai about what Lomfon had said, they could've solved this problem together. They both caused this problem because of their lack of communication.

Patts needed reassurance, he knew Tai had no interest in Lomfon but at that moment he was just confused. In that scenario it's best to let both of them sort out their thoughts before talking about it properly, we can see how that ended in Patts desperate second attempt to sort things out while drunk.

If how Tai behaved is toxic and manipulative to you, please think about what you would do in this situation. Would you just tell Patts "nooo you're the one I choose baby I luv u so muchhh" I don't think you would because I'm sure you're smart enough to understand that it wouldn't affect Patts in any way. Patts was ignoring everything else, even the fact that Tai had no "choices" to begin with. He had never even spared a thought about dating Lomfon. Patts wasn't in his right mind, and he himself acknowledges that after Tai mentions breaking up. You have to also acknowledge the fact that Tai was in shock as well, suddenly his hearing loss is gone and so is the soulmate connection, he's confused. He has to sort his thoughts as well. Patts behavior was childish, he was so desperate for reassurance that he was begging for Tai to "choose him" because he tried to convince himself that that's all it takes to patch things up with Tai, but thankfully Tai understood that they needed time to think about things, just for Patts to ruin it by arriving at his house unannounced while drunk. I would ask for some time apart if I was Tai in that situation as well.

Patts wasn't perfect either. Try to acknowledge that both Tai and Patts were in the wrong, I'm not on anyone's side, I just relate to Tai more.
Replying to zamperx Jul 3, 2023
Title La Pluie
Ok, you said you understood that ridiculous sentence from Tai about that whatever silence. So maybe you could…
That's what I said.

The reason we can see many people hating on Tai is actually even more simple than that. Patts in this situation was the one who acted strongly (and rightfully so), therefore the people who understand Patts more feel his anger and therefore hate on Tai. On the other case the people who empathize with Tai more are able to acknowledge both viewpoints and aren't fully hating on anyone, since Tai is more calm in this situation. It's that simple, it's a subconscious yet common thing.
Replying to winmyheart Jul 2, 2023
Title La Pluie Spoiler
(I'm pretty sure you mixed Tian and Tai up) Wouldn't it feel illogical that Tai said all of that in that situation?…
I agree with your last point about Patts being worried that the soulmate bond was the only thing keeping them together.

Tai needed to sort his thoughts as well, he was hit by a whole info dump from Lomfon regarding the soulmate system, not to mention the soulmate connection suddenly breaking. Tai had just gotten used to the soulmate system and was starting to lose his doubts about it but then poof someone says they're also your soulmate and then your soulmate connection is lost. He's unexpectedly calm in this situation, especially since Patts was pressuring him to "choose" him even though Tai never had any choices to begin with. He had never shown even a slight bit of attraction towards Lomfon and now he has to "prove" his love to Patts.

Tai told Patts they'd talk later but then Patts came to his house unannounced while drunk just to make matters worse since he wasn't sober. Only once Tai chose to broke up with him was it that he noticed how unnecessarily strongly he had reacted to all of this and that he wasn't thinking clearly enough to understand Tai's viewpoint.
Replying to CheyenneT Jul 2, 2023
Title La Pluie Spoiler
I don’t get everyone hating on Tai right now. I mean yes, he did lie and it was a low move on his part, we agree,…
I mostly agree with your viewpoint but I do have some disagreements.

Patts definitely isn't as much of an asshole as you view it, but I appreciate you bringing it up. No one in La Pluie is perfect, that's what I cherish about this series. Love isn't just about butterflies and flowers that a few exes might burden a bit, it's about communication. Patts and Tai don't communicate well enough, we've seen that multiple times before.

Lomfon did the wrong thing by not even giving a warning or a buildup before kissing Tai, Tai was obviously surprised at this, not to mention the whole info dump beforehand.
Replying to zamperx Jul 2, 2023
Title La Pluie
Tai and Lomfon annoyed me the most in this episode. Lomfon tried to steel someone else's bf and Tai lied to his…
Of course Patts felt insecure and wanted to ask about it, that's exactly what happened. As I said, Patts knows that Tai loves him. He wasn't thinking clearly at that moment, neither was he when he was drunk, after he and Tai broke up he sobered up a little and realized how blind he was the whole time. Not to mention that Patts isn't the only one who needs to sort out his feelings. Tai was still shocked about everything and therefore stayed silent. He knew they wouldn't be able to communicate properly if neither of them were thinking clearly.

What made Tai mature wasn't only because he stayed silent, it was because he acknowledged that they needed to sort their thoughts before talking it out. Things could've been way worse if Tai had tried to continue the conversation.
Replying to zamperx Jul 2, 2023
Title La Pluie
Most ridiculous and out of character episode yet. If that's serving, then yes it did.
We've never seen Patts this mad, yes. But has he experienced something this severe on-screen before to have a reason to be this mad? No.
Tai isn't a liar, neither is he cold-hearted. He lied twice about his whereabouts, there's no one in this world that hasn't lied before. Neither is he cold-hearted, I'm not sure where you picked that up from.
Replying to zamperx Jul 2, 2023
Title La Pluie
Ok, you said you understood that ridiculous sentence from Tai about that whatever silence. So maybe you could…
I understand your viewpoint because I think that the goal of this episode was to start conversations about who we can understand the most in this situation, and for you, it's presumably Patts, and for me it's Tai, even though we might understand both sides we might lean on the other more.

Neither Tai nor Patts handled the situation perfectly, and that's what makes it realistic. We as viewers can think what we want but in the end no one in this situation was "right".

I don't mean to sound like I'm hating on Patts, I love him. I just feel like a lot of people shit on Tai so I explain his viewpoint more thoroughly. Patts has every right to be mad, and realistically he is, but in my opinion, the best Tai could do in that situation was to save the big talk for later, since Patts truly knows Tai loves him, he just sought validation at that moment.
Replying to MianhaKdrama Jul 2, 2023
Title La Pluie
"Tai had his reasons to lie to Patts even though he could've handled it better"Real question: what is Tai's reason…
Phatts and Tai didn't discuss it with each other as far as we know, and it makes sense since they already solidified their relationship, but everyone pretty much knew of Lomfon's feelings for Tai, he was transparent about it. Tai only agreed to a meal since he owed Lomfon one, but Lomfon stetched it out for longer. Towards the end we can see how Tai is insistent on leaving, and uses the rain as an excuse.

Tai didn't want to lie to Patts, he just didn't plan on mentioning his meet-up with Lomfon, which by the way happens with Patts as well, he didn't tell Tai about his chat with Lomfon because he thought it wouldn't affect their relationship as long as Lomfon kept away from them.

Tai had multiple reasons to lie in that situation
- out of sheer panic
- not wanting Patts to think he isn't his first priority
- he knew how Patts would react
- he didn't want Patts to get the wrong idea
- he wasn't sure how to explain it
- he knew how much Patts disliked Lomfon

But the most likely one is out of sheer panic and because he knew how Patts would react. Patts hadn't been portrayed as possessive but he has given Lomfon "the look" multiple times.

Tai isn't "innocent"- no one is. That's how it is in real life as well. Neither Patts, Lomfon, nor Tai are "on the right"- it's all defined by morals and viewpoints. I'm sure this episode was meant to start conversations on who viewers can understand the best, and what and what isn't socially acceptable. Tai also feels pressured, in that situation it's hard to just drop the truth. He probably thought about telling Patts about this later so he wouldn't butt in.

He could've handled this differently, but he's not perfect, he was still unsure about how to handle all of this without any drama.