I am sooo into Chinese and Korean Web novels, but I have to say that many writers have such unhealthy way of describing…
yes exactly! The problem I have with these stories (not just chinese novels but stories of all countries and mediums be it movie, drama, anime whatever) is that they show an unhealthy fondness for UN-consensual acts. The famous wrist grip, kabe-don, holding hear head and pulling her for a forcefull kiss, watching and/or skinship while the other is asleep and many more... All presented as acceptable, romantic, visually pleasing, these scenes can really change the perception of roles and acceptable/unacceptable acts in relationships for younger viewers.
I agree to all of it. Initially, I could not get used to the ML and his actions as well. But it gets better after…
It's been quite a while since I read it so my memory is a little hazy but in terms of strong woman (in a Chinese novel), the best example I can remember is Yun Luo Feng in Ghost Emperor Wild Wife: Dandy Eldest Miss. She had the standard spread; looks, brains, and talent but the thing that set that novel apart for me was that the male lead. Never did things behind her back to make things easy for her or anything. Just watched and helped when she asked for it. Never in the novel I thought "Oh, good thing she has him in her corner, otherwise she'd be in trouble." He always watched her as she spread her wings and did things her way.
The novel is wuxia / xuanhuan genre so romance is not the main focus, just remembered the character when I read your piece.
This is not criticism against you or your preferences, just what I thought after I read some 80+ chapters of the light novel.
This may be the story of a strong woman and how she overcome stuff, got her revenge and got her happy ending, but I can't see this as a good novel to recommend.
The male lead here is the stereotype chinese main writers love to use; tsundere, ice cold, heart of gold, misunderstood, richie rich rich and oh so very handsome. He is also manipulative, jealous (not just other potential suitors, but his own 5 year old son), and possessive.
In the first chapters it is revealed that our strong female lead is raped, got pregnant and lost her baby. Later on it is revealed that since then had not have any loving or sexual relations with anyone else so she is still very affected by this horrible horrible thing that happened to her (rape). The moment our male lead sees her, he feels this immense connection and closeness to her, and shows this affection by touching, kissing, and .. clutching? gripping tightly? holding tight? not sure the correct wording but while reading it kept triggering my fight or flight response when I think about she is a rape survivor.
Oh did I mentioned he is also a rape survivor? So talk about sympathetic male right? wrong apparently. This never goes into creepy because the way it is written is that she never thinks he is doing something wrong, and responds in ignorance, neutrally or positively. never as you would think a rape survivor would act.
From the way story progresses I am thinking The child is hers, whom she is told is dead, the rapes are same so they were both drugged and had sex with each other. And it is all very romantic in the end. Unless the foreshadowing is all red herring in which case, grats to the writer, I totally bought it.
Oh and not to one up you; but right now I even drop some dramas I haven't watched.
Abusive, mean boy/girl friend? DROP. Even if they do it because of valid (to them) reasons, even if they have heart of gold hidden deep inside. Story line that feels like written by hormonal adolescents? or by bigot screenwriters who thinks some things are acceptable as long as they write happy endings? DRROP!
I have not seen DOTS, but I'm planning to watch Hospital Playlist since many liked it, I hope someone who has…
DOTS: no. medical accuracy was not the main concern in that drama. HP: Only thing I did not like in that drama was that it was made for netflix so the ending was a cliffhanger. As I liked it, I am remembering it thru pink tinted glasses, so there might be more but only inaccuracy I remember was from surgery scenes where they touched stuff or their face etc AFTER they sterilized and wore gloves.
These (and many more you did not mention) are the main reasons I can not enjoy most medical dramas or scenes.
I understand making the actor call for a nurse to take off their IV may be too bothersome but everytime I see them take off the IV or sterilize an open wound with alcohol (sometimes not even alcohol, like just an alcoholic drink), my respect for that writer goes out the window.
I started reading the book before I started this and now I am very confused. The sequence of things are different, the personalities of characters and the things that happen to them are different. It's like I am watching a different story.
Does it get better? or do things change a lot compared to the book?
I really like the mains but when I learned that she was his patient, I felt dispirited. a lot.
I hate when they try to ship a relationship with vastly different power levels, like a doctor and patient, teacher and student or boss and employee. This is really dangerous territory and it is very easy for the relationship to turn into an abusive one. There is a reason it it considered a crime in real world.
I feel it is wrong to romanticize these kinds of situations.
The tropes became tropes for a reason. They are tried and tested time and time again. I think the problem is the writers have become complacent in their success and instead of creating beautiful scenes where tropes can shine, they instead just insert tropes and expect us to feel the same feelings when we saw the tropes used perfectly.
I think the thing that ruins the dramas most right now is the laziness / complacent-ness of writers. Instead of writing good, intelligent scenes, they try to cheat by lowering the rest of the scenes "requirements"; like instead thinking how to make a character intelligent, they make the rest of the characters dumb so the character "seems" intelligent. Instead of thinking how to make a powerful villain, they instead make the rest of the characters power-less to make it seem like the villain is powerful.
I read "the whole series follows the principle of reappearing characters but re-casting actors." and stopped.
I m a big fan of recurring characters and the idea of characters played by different actors doesn't appeal to me at all, so despite it's interesting premise, this will be something else I will not be watching.
The problem I have with these stories (not just chinese novels but stories of all countries and mediums be it movie, drama, anime whatever) is that they show an unhealthy fondness for UN-consensual acts.
The famous wrist grip, kabe-don, holding hear head and pulling her for a forcefull kiss, watching and/or skinship while the other is asleep and many more... All presented as acceptable, romantic, visually pleasing, these scenes can really change the perception of roles and acceptable/unacceptable acts in relationships for younger viewers.
The novel is wuxia / xuanhuan genre so romance is not the main focus, just remembered the character when I read your piece.
This may be the story of a strong woman and how she overcome stuff, got her revenge and got her happy ending, but I can't see this as a good novel to recommend.
The male lead here is the stereotype chinese main writers love to use; tsundere, ice cold, heart of gold, misunderstood, richie rich rich and oh so very handsome. He is also manipulative, jealous (not just other potential suitors, but his own 5 year old son), and possessive.
In the first chapters it is revealed that our strong female lead is raped, got pregnant and lost her baby. Later on it is revealed that since then had not have any loving or sexual relations with anyone else so she is still very affected by this horrible horrible thing that happened to her (rape).
The moment our male lead sees her, he feels this immense connection and closeness to her, and shows this affection by touching, kissing, and .. clutching? gripping tightly? holding tight? not sure the correct wording but while reading it kept triggering my fight or flight response when I think about she is a rape survivor.
Oh did I mentioned he is also a rape survivor? So talk about sympathetic male right? wrong apparently.
This never goes into creepy because the way it is written is that she never thinks he is doing something wrong, and responds in ignorance, neutrally or positively. never as you would think a rape survivor would act.
From the way story progresses I am thinking The child is hers, whom she is told is dead, the rapes are same so they were both drugged and had sex with each other. And it is all very romantic in the end. Unless the foreshadowing is all red herring in which case, grats to the writer, I totally bought it.
Abusive, mean boy/girl friend? DROP. Even if they do it because of valid (to them) reasons, even if they have heart of gold hidden deep inside.
Story line that feels like written by hormonal adolescents? or by bigot screenwriters who thinks some things are acceptable as long as they write happy endings? DRROP!
*starts waiting for the "if outlander was adapted into a chinese drama" article*
Having watched 2 episodes, I am relieved this was not the case and really like the brother characters so far.
Never had any thoughts on Oh Jung Se before, but I like his mental ilness (autism?) acting.
Koreans doesn't seem to like when they see mental problems on screen unless they are on evil, crazy villains.
This theory is backed up by an extremely small sample pool of the kdramas I watched.
HP: Only thing I did not like in that drama was that it was made for netflix so the ending was a cliffhanger. As I liked it, I am remembering it thru pink tinted glasses, so there might be more but only inaccuracy I remember was from surgery scenes where they touched stuff or their face etc AFTER they sterilized and wore gloves.
I understand making the actor call for a nurse to take off their IV may be too bothersome but everytime I see them take off the IV or sterilize an open wound with alcohol (sometimes not even alcohol, like just an alcoholic drink), my respect for that writer goes out the window.
It screamed "you are not alone" to me and I loved it.
This was the single best news I received this week. Thank you.
I loved one cut of the dead and was expecting another technical brilliance like it, but this was brilliant on another level.
The sequence of things are different, the personalities of characters and the things that happen to them are different. It's like I am watching a different story.
Does it get better? or do things change a lot compared to the book?
I hate when they try to ship a relationship with vastly different power levels, like a doctor and patient, teacher and student or boss and employee. This is really dangerous territory and it is very easy for the relationship to turn into an abusive one. There is a reason it it considered a crime in real world.
I feel it is wrong to romanticize these kinds of situations.
I think the thing that ruins the dramas most right now is the laziness / complacent-ness of writers. Instead of writing good, intelligent scenes, they try to cheat by lowering the rest of the scenes "requirements"; like instead thinking how to make a character intelligent, they make the rest of the characters dumb so the character "seems" intelligent. Instead of thinking how to make a powerful villain, they instead make the rest of the characters power-less to make it seem like the villain is powerful.
I am really happy that you are seeking professional help and feeling much better.
I m a big fan of recurring characters and the idea of characters played by different actors doesn't appeal to me at all, so despite it's interesting premise, this will be something else I will not be watching.