Just finished ep 10 and I am SO SICK of these manufactured misunderstandings that the writers have imposed on the FL character. She never stops to think if all of the incidents that happen to her and ML are done by somebody else. Nope, let's just blame the ML, no matter what. Even when she knows the evil girl villan was doing the damage she still insists that he's working with her. Get over yourself already. It's making an otherwise face paced story drag. I've come this far so am determined to finish. But quite frankly, it's a struggle. Edit: Phew, i FINISHED! Overall, it was good drama, with all the typical lakorn over the top elements. Bad guys got what they deserved. Good guys got a lovely happy ending. Eps 10-12 were the hardest because of the FL's character's stubborn refusal to let go of her past. Sweeter moments in the last eps for the couple. The Kem/Mook pairing certainly have excellent chemistry. Never seen Kem in aything else and I believe he's a new kid in town. He did an excellent job, really portraying the pain and anguish he felt at her refusal to forgive him very well. I really felt for his character and during those eps leading up to their reconciliation I wondered why he bothered to try with her. She was hard hearted and down right nasty. And no I haven't forgotten the infamous opening scene in ep 1. Mook has beautiful eyes but they certainly know how to glare! Throughout the first 12 eps, she mostly wore a sulky, pouty, spolied brat expression. The same one she wore in her other drama of the same year with Weir. 'Marn Bang Jai'. But all turned out well in the end. It's not a light hearted story at all. Filled with pain, tension, heartbreak & more but certainly worth a watch. Re-watch...probably at some stage. I'll be keeping an eye out for any further work from the lead pair.
I do wish we had more episodes of him grovelling, it wasn't enough. We did have a lot of him angry, regret and…
Yes, I agree. I feel a deep sense of satisfaction when I see the ML really having to work hard to win back the woman they have wronged so badly. This one had more of those scenes than most I think, but still could have done with more. They not only highlight the repentance and character growth of the ML but the strength of the FL. Another good CDrama where the ML has to work really hard to win back the girl, is called 'The Wife's Secret'. Another excellent production.
Watch in Eng subs on Lakorn Galaxy There are a lot of bad reviews/ talk about the ML character's unredeemable actions and those reviews are spot on.
Don't read the rest if you don't want to know what the story line is!!!
Frankly I ended up liking this one, and I also loathe this one. You have to despise the ML character completely. He's a real bastard. Cruel, demented. Psychotic. The ML actor did a tremendous job of being the emotionally stunted ML, irreparibly scarred by a childhood incident/mother abandonment. He develops a deep hatred and need for revenge on the father of the FL because he (wrongly) thought he witnessed the father taking his mother away from his own father. This was the basis for his revenge but of course it didn't turn out to be correct. He married the FL and imprisoned her and her dad for revenge and yes his actions were cruel and demented but you could tell that he actually loved her in his own twisted way, although unwilling to admit that until the end. See edit below.
Edit: Ya know, I'm re watching this now and I'm more and more convinced that he never actually loved the FL, Oom at all. I know that in the end, he repents and chooses her, blah blah, but thoughout (and I'm on ep 11 out of 15), he doesn't display any sort of love. Lust yes because the character is a player and is sex driven, but there's little indication of love or caring, just a deep hatred and disregard for her feelings. Nah. I'm finding it hard to buy the 'he really loved her all along' trope that they try to force on us in the last couple of eps. I think the writing and Dream's acting were so strong in the first three quarters of this Lakorn, that you come away totally convinced of his hatred and totally unconvinced of the 'contrived' love in the ending eps. It leaves a bitter taste in your mouth. I hope I can see Dream in a 'nicer' role soon so I can get rid of this distaste. I think his acting skills are superb.
And I don't have as much sympathy for the FL as I did the first time around. The woman is just plain stupid. She puts up with abuse and mental torture, watching his infidelity with pain and sorrow all because she 'loves' him. What a load of BS. Her reactions to his torture are where the writing falls miserably short of being called decent or adequate. Only the ML's hate-filled parts were well written. So I guess the writers must be mysogynistic (strongly prejudiced against women) maybe?? :(
He had the long term girlfriend in tow, always promising to marry her and declaring undying love, even though he had already married the FL. She is a real bitch too. Totally unsympathetic character and her pairing with the SML was disappointing. He could have done much better than her!
I agree with others that the ML displayed unredeemable actions when he continued a public intimate relationship with his girlfriend. The hurt that would cause the innocent girl who had been tricked into loving him would be too much in reality and no woman with any self respect would stand for that behavior and stay with a man like that. It can't even be explained as him wanting to revenge on her because there were a couple of instances early (before he knew she was the daughter of his 'enemy') where he flirted with other women so basically he was a tom cat in need of an operation and not to be trusted in the present or future.
When it all came crashing down and the FL's dad died indirectly because of his actions, he then discovered the truth (refusing to believe the facts until then) but by then it was too late. He'd lost both women. The long term girlfriend was annoying (as usual for a SFL) and refused to give up on him even when she could see plainly (supposedly)that he loved the FL. There were some plot holes and leaps in logic but overall, a pretty good story. It was pleasing to see that even though he confessed his mistakes and begged for forgiveness, the FL really made him suffer for a long time. However this is one of the few where I wish she had given him the boot permanently and she could find someone who really treasured her. This moronic character would never be trustworthy.
In the end you came to pity him because he was a wounded little child, just needing to be loved. This is one of my top three most hated ML's, along with Film's character in Mia Tuean and Dome's in Sanaeha Sunya Khaen. In this one there wasn't the same level of physical abuse that some others dish out but too much emotional cruelty. Too much. So this is one where I actually hate the male lead character, admire the acting skills of the actor who plays him, feel deep pity for the female lead but wish she would have more self respect, and alternately loathe or like the other characters. I especially disliked the head housekeeper who was nasty, bitchy and cruel (verbally) to the FL for no reason. The child Noudee was as annoying as heck, and the wannabee boy Wanlop was also an annoying brat who kept pushing himself uninvited on the FL, although at least he came to her rescue later on. The SFL -P'Nan, was a totally unsympathetic character. Really possesive, bitchy, nasty and not good enough for the man she ended up with. My main problem with this drama is the inconsistent writing. It was good in the first half but the revenge fuelled hate he displayed was so overpowering that it was difficult to believe the 'love' he finally admitted for the FL. They just didn't get the balance right. This is a polarizing drama that you will either love or hate.
This is a great story. The remake was exactly the same storyline as this original. This lead actress was not as good as the one in the remake but she did okay. Sometimes it seemed like she was trying to remember her lines. The mum and dad were great. The ML was very good in this one and I think I liked him better than the lead in the remake. The characters had the same quality as the remake so the FL's obstinance and deliberate prolonged misunderstanding was in this one too and just as annoying. The film quality in this early one was not the best but watchable. Overall I'm glad I watched both versions. Watched on Lakorn Galaxy. Will re-watch.
Yeah I can understand that. Infidelity is one of the only triggers I have in Lakorns. It's okay if the FL has not yet begun to love the ML, but once she does, I just can't stand to see him being unfaithful, even if he's just pretending. Beats me why I'm like that. I've had no experience with infidelity. It's just one of those things I guess.
What can I say about this one. Got to be one of the most mentally ill, perverted, emotionally clueless ML's out there. The second half was mostly scenes with him borderline incestously hitting on his younger sister just to get back at his mother. All the while cruelly hurting the FL who had no clue what his intentions were. She just thought he was being unfaithful to her, which he was of course.
You can't claim to love someone and then spend all your time publically chasing after someone else. No rational person would do that. Not if you truly loved, which he didn't. I don't think the character was capable of true love. The writer's excuse? He felt so betrayed by his mother's abandonment that the only way he could think to revenge on her was to seduce his younger sister! Talk about sick and perverted.!Abandonment issues that twisted his mind. Revenge on his mother that hurt his innocent sister and the woman he claimed to love.
And the most infuriating part was when he had no clue why the FL was angry at him and turned away from him. What? That's just nonsense. And of course you have to throw in the obligatory -it's no big deal, they would have you believe-rape, just to make everything rosey.
The FL was a strong character, well played. Dome was okay. He does a good twisted creepy character. The second storyline of PIM and her husband was completely irrelevant to the main story and had nothing to do with it. The most irritating characters to me are the two SML. P'Hao and P'Win. Both of them laid claim to the FL in their own way. Hao was a stupid ape who was openly aggressive in his possesivenssness of Rot, even though she had no interest in him at all. He never wised up through the whole show and remained a dumb irritating character. P'Win was passive- aggressive, trying to win her heart in his quiet way but always hovering around her. Both of these dudes truly annoy me.
I won't even comment on the useless mother. Except to say that just about ANY mother in the world would have stepped in the very first time he started seducing/charming his clueless sister, and told the truth. That she was mother to both of them. Anything to protect her child. But no, she just kept quiet for the most stupid, illogical, flimsiest of reasons, just to draw the drama out.
I could go on but honestly this one is not for the faint hearted. Just the thought of the incestuous actions (I know it wasn't really, but his intent was to make her fall in love with him. It may not be truly incestuous by definition, but certainly YUK) by the ML is enough to turn your stomach. It would have been tolerable with a better written script. Second on my list of 'never bother with this rubbish again',
Just love this one for the character transformation of the ML from an emotionally dysfunctional (from abuse as a child) agressive to a mature ,loving male. Never get sick of watching this delicious actor. Finally found all the eps fully subbed after seeing the first few eps only in eng subs almost a year ago. So happy to see the whole thing fully subbed now on Lakorn Galaxy. Aum does a very good job as an emotionally dysfunctional, abusive Mafia type 'boss' who's the king of the heap around his area. He's always accused of doing the wrong thing and breaking the law but is in fact the opposite. His protective shell of barbaric aggressive fierceness pushes all away from him, until he meets Tawan the FL who is his brother-in-law's. sister. Together with their mutual nephew Pete, Tawan and Pete break the hard shell of our ML bad boy until he transforms into the loving partner and father figure. Aum played the character very well with a great depth of emotion and vulnerability-especially when he thinks Tawan and Pete have left him like everyone else has in his life. Some very sad scenes as he reacts to this. But all is good in the end of course. The story was very well written with a strong bad guy who all along has plotted to discredit the ML and kill him. Some good side characters. Comic relief from the second lead couple who are very cute together. Strong performance by the FL actress. She certainly is not a doormat like so many FL are. This is a great Lakorn with no slap-/kiss or other triggers except the abuse he dishes out to her in the beginning, but his abusive childhood was the reason for the this and by the end she has helped him work through these issues and change for the better.
My only complaint is there wasn't much skinship at all between the leads. This fitted with his character (being unable to express his emotions well )and the story but it would have been nice to see a little more touching/hand holding which would have sold the romance more. Although the romance was a major part of it, the ML transformation and the mystery surrounding who was really doing all the bad deeds, was more predominant. This one is definitely on my re watch list.
Yeah. Well. What can I say. Found this English subbed on Lakorn Galaxy and vid quality excellent but the player takes some getting used to with ad pop ups at beginning and just about every time you try to skip ahead. Played this at 1.5 speed because the secondary story wasn't of any interest to me. But apart from that, the drama itself... This dude (the ML character, not Film who is one of my fav actors) has to be one of the most stupid, gullible fools out there. This is the first time I actually immensely disliked the ML character (with Dome's character from Sanaeha Sunya Kaen coming a close second). He treated that poor girl like a piece of garbage, with NO basis for his assumption that she was a woman of easy virtue. He knew that her step evils were bad girls but still chose to believe them with everything they said and did to make the FL look bad. It was easy for them beause he was ready to think the worst of her every. single. time. He basically treated her like a prostitute and sexually assaulted her in just about every scene. Then of course, the rape. Because how could they have a bub and play happy families without it?
Thankfully, she chose to respect herself and leave, so at least he had to spend two episodes searching for her, discovering what a fool he'd been and realising how good she really was, before the inevitable, happy ending. Let me tell you, I was really hoping that the happy ending would be that he never got to see her again and spent the remainder of his life regretting his ridiculous actions. But alas, it's Lakorn Land where every rapist gets to live happily ever after with their Stockholm Syndrome affected partner and all is rosy.
While I love these type of dramas and understand that it's all make believe, I do wonder what sort of message they are sending to their viewers. And how does it influence the easily suggestible members of Thai society? It's a worry. And what about the actors? Do they get a choice of what work to accept? Because they too are role models and modelling this type of behaviour is something that should be given a great deal of thought. I know this drama is from the golden age of slap/kiss/rape/repeat, and the more modern dramas are starting to send a more positive message about the treatment of women, so Yay! for today's writers and producers.
Sooooo. Even though the show has a lot of triggers, some really hateable characters, and a cliche ridden script, it was intersting enough to keep me watching to the end.
The funniest thing to me was the actress kept holding/rubbing her supposed baby bump but they must have forgotten to put the fake tummy on, because there certainly wasn't any bump! The setting of the honeymoon hut was absolutely beautiful and idealic. The acting was pretty good. I really became involved emotionally, especially for the FL. The story as I've said was triggering but written fairly decently except for the unbeliveably stupid ML character. The OST was nice but not invasive. Re-watch: Probably not.
This is a really late answer but I've just seen your questions. Yes and no. He manipulates and uses her sister in law (who was a real piece of work), allowing her to drape herself all over him and yes, expect sexual intimacy but he manages to wriggle out of each situation without doing the deed. He attempts to rape her sister but if you listen to the dialogue later I think it was never going to be rape. He just wanted her siblings to know what it felt like to have someone they love abused. So no he doesn't cheat physically but yes he cheats emotionally and almost physically. The intent was there. Although I reckon the character was written to show that once he began to love her, he actually stopped doing the intimate rendevous etc with the sister in law. That's how i take it anyway.
Love love love Weir and he gives a typically strong performance here as an emotionally disturbed bad boy who loves the FL quite early but is simply driven by overwhelming revenge to go through with his plans to destroy her family. The trigger moments for me are the evil sister in law with whom he has an apparent affair- and sexual assault of the FL's sister. Well written to show the character's overall tormented revenge which at that stage of the story, was stronger than his love for the FL But he got better and all was forgiven in an appropriate manner. Quite a bit of crazy girl slapping but good to see the FL get a few of her own back as well. The ending is happy but anti climactic after all the drama throughout the show. Good story with no plot holes and woven beautifully to the end. A definite rewatch.
A good story with lots of twists and turns in the plot. The lead actress is a beautiful lady but does have a higher pitched whiny voice and for most scenes she was in, she NEVER STOPPED TALKING! Got very annoying very quickly. She did deliver some very believable emotions though, especially in the sad scenes. The ML was quite a dimensional character. Nasty to FL and manipulative, deceiving her on a number of occasions to make her fall for him and not his brother. He then proceeds to dump the FL and agree to marry the very manipulative, selfish 'friend' Ran, who turned from a sweet character into a grasping, manipulative, cunning bitch who wanted him and tried to force him into marrying her (by threatening suicide) , thus destroying the marriage and happiness of him and the FL. But as long as she got what she wanted, she was a happy little girl. In the end she acted all noble and surrendered her love to allow the ML and FL to get back together. but in reality she only did that because he grew a backbone suddenly and rejected her pathetic little self. Think you get the idea that I disliked the Ran character and in fact the ML Sila character as well. The brother wasn't much better, allowing himself to become a tool for revenge against his own family because he was too stupid to realise it. Although this lakorn doesn't have any personal triggers for me such as rape, infidelity etc, it was certainly full of dramatic tension and kept me hooked right to the end. There were a lot of characters in this and they all acted their part really well with no unecessary characters added for humour or whatever. There were fourdistinct storylines which all played out and were woven together skillfully at the end. Happy ending of course but for me, the three or so episodes before the end when the FL had to watch him divorce her and get with the Ran character, were enough to make me feel unsatisfied. As lakorns go it was fairly light but still very tense. Very well written with some great acting. Rewatch- not sure.
Loved this one. Great story with no plot holes or 'what the heck?!' moments.Super cute and funny FL and eye candy ML who was sweet and steadfast in his love for FL after he fell in love. Great moments of jealousy, mystery & drama. And a very sad couple of eps when she thought he was cheating and didn't love her anymore. All was not what it seemed. Lovely happy ending. Def. re-watch.
I must be weird because I'm one of the minority who liked this show! Mind you I skipped the first seven eps and started from ep 8 and managed to make sense of the story quite easily. A bit choppy in the editing but not a bad watch. I'm a Big M fan so loved the clip of him singing the OST after the episodes. That was a nice bonus. The FL was a little more fiesty and independant than most FL's in Lakorns but still not quite enough. It's infuriating they way they just stand there and allow themselves to be insulted and disrespected and say nothing. Come on writers, this is the 21st century. Start writing some quality stuff that doesn't demean women and make men out to be bullying thugs. In this show all the tom cats hanging around her (except the ML) were only after her for her body and/or her assets. And she wasn't clear in her dealings with them and did encourage their attentions, which was disappointing but it wouldn't have been much of a drama without that stuff. I may re watch this beause I like looking at Big M!
Nicolai deserved a better ending. His selfless love throughout the show brought tears to my eyes. He chose to devote himself to Wayoon and Lila, and Wayoon was honest with him but I still cried for him. Ramin....what a stupid jerk. He loved her, but just didn't have enough guts to stand up to his hateful aunt so his love was at best, tainted by his selfishness and cowardice. If I didn't love the role Pie played in Leh Ratree, I would really hate her, but she's a fine actress, able to generate a lot of emotions and believability. She's great! And what's with the ridiculous assumption by Wayoon's aunt that Lila needed her real father in her life. You know... the one who wanted to kill her in the womb? Lila didn't need that kind of father. She had a perfectly good father and role model in Nicolai, even in his role as friend to Wayoon and not lover. In the end, as with so many Lakorns,, Ramin's repentance and apology was a few short lines and hey presto! He's back in business. Yikes! One of the first times I sorta wished that the main leads didn't end up together. Or at least he should have suffered more. But there you go...it's Thai drama land. I'll probably watch this again, if I have nothing else to watch.
Just curious. Did you finish watching the whole series? I thought the same as you at first, then as it progressed…
Yeah I have a very long watch list as well. Mainly Thai, but also Cdramas. I started with Kdramas, then discovered CDramas...and it goes on from there :)
Alrighty this has to be the most gorgeous, lovely, sweet, natural lead couple in Thai drama land. Nice to know they are actually partners in real life since 2011. You can tell. They are just so natural and affectionate with continuously sweet body language that no amount of acting would pull off. The storyline was very interesting with lots of martial arts fighting and a well developed plot. Good supporting actors who did their job very well. I didn't pick up anyone who was over acting or an inexperienced actor. The bad girl was very hateable. The Second male lead was seriously bad yet had a pure love for the FL and died for her in the end. There were quite a few characters who were redemed by the end and many baddies who got their just desserts. Will definitely watch again at some stage, even if just for the lovely lead couple. The Japanese setting, costumes etc was beautiful and added extra appeal. Only reason I didn't give it a 10 is because of the evil girl love rival. That type of character always makes me tense because I don't like what they do to the main female lead character and they never seem to get the bad ending they deserve. Just get away with a 'sorry'. The only evil love rival/ SFL who got what she really deserved was the Sansanee character in Jam Loey Rak. There's probably more but that's just the Lakorns I've watched so far.
I really want to watch coz of NY but it's just ridiculous.From the synopsis we already know that the ML shuns…
Just curious. Did you finish watching the whole series? I thought the same as you at first, then as it progressed I became irritated with the FL because she couldn't see how sincere his love for her was and was far too ready to accept the lies of the evil love rival who claimed that she was his lover, although he only ever treated her as a friend. Further on the FL became really strong and learned to love and trust. They were certainly put through a lotof tests which made them stronger. Ended up really enjoying this because of the strong FL, the ML's unwavering love and devotion for her and the generally interesting storyline.
Meh. Well what can I say. The FL. The poor girl..her acting was so stiff and un-natural. Her facial expression forced, if there was any at all. She just looked uncomfortable for most of it. Um...Maybe her other projects have given her a better vehicle and her acting has improved...sigh. Not a bad storyline. The evil female love rival was probably the best actor our of the lot of them, although I am a big fan of Film and he did quite well. There were a couple of plot holes and some decidely stupid exmples of NO communication between the characters which would have solved everything, but then what would they have made all the drama about if there wasn't these dumb misunderstandings? I know they are an over-used plot device to create drama, tension and move the story along. I get it. But couldn't we come up with some new ones writers? And the nost notable thing for me was that the actors seemed to be waiting for each other to say their lines. There were a lot of 'pregnant pauses' in the action and dialogue where they just stood around and waited for the next line to be delivered. Made it seem rather amateurish. Having said all that, it was a not so bad example of a cliche ridded lakorn and was a good watch. Not too taxing on the brain cells. Dunno about watching it again though.
and ML are done by somebody else. Nope, let's just blame the ML, no matter what. Even when she
knows the evil girl villan was doing the damage she still insists that he's working with her. Get over
yourself already. It's making an otherwise face paced story drag. I've come this far so am determined to finish. But quite frankly, it's a struggle.
Edit: Phew, i FINISHED! Overall, it was good drama, with all the typical lakorn over the
top elements. Bad guys got what they deserved. Good guys got a lovely happy ending.
Eps 10-12 were the hardest because of the FL's character's stubborn refusal to let go of
her past. Sweeter moments in the last eps for the couple. The Kem/Mook pairing certainly
have excellent chemistry. Never seen Kem in aything else and I believe he's a new kid in town. He did an excellent job, really portraying the pain and anguish he felt at her refusal to
forgive him very well. I really felt for his character and during those eps leading up to their
reconciliation I wondered why he bothered to try with her. She was hard hearted and down
right nasty. And no I haven't forgotten the infamous opening scene in ep 1. Mook has beautiful eyes but they certainly know how to glare! Throughout the first 12 eps, she mostly wore a sulky, pouty, spolied brat expression. The same one she wore in her other drama of the same year with Weir. 'Marn Bang Jai'.
But all turned out well in the end. It's not a light hearted story at all. Filled with pain, tension, heartbreak & more but certainly worth a watch. Re-watch...probably at some stage. I'll be keeping an eye out for any further work from the lead pair.
There are a lot of bad reviews/ talk about the ML character's unredeemable actions and
those reviews are spot on.
Don't read the rest if you don't want to know what the story line is!!!
Frankly I ended up liking this one, and I also loathe this one. You have to despise the ML
character completely. He's a real bastard. Cruel, demented. Psychotic. The ML actor did a
tremendous job of being the emotionally stunted ML, irreparibly scarred by a childhood
incident/mother abandonment.
He develops a deep hatred and need for revenge on the father of the FL because he (wrongly) thought he witnessed the father taking his mother away from his own father. This was the
basis for his revenge but of course it didn't turn out to be correct. He married the FL and
imprisoned her and her dad for revenge and yes his actions were cruel and demented but you could tell that he actually loved her in his own twisted way, although unwilling to admit that
until the end. See edit below.
Edit: Ya know, I'm re watching this now and I'm more and more convinced that he never
actually loved the FL, Oom at all. I know that in the end, he repents and chooses her, blah blah,
but thoughout (and I'm on ep 11 out of 15), he doesn't display any sort of love. Lust yes
because the character is a player and is sex driven, but there's little indication of love or
caring, just a deep hatred and disregard for her feelings. Nah. I'm finding it hard to buy the
'he really loved her all along' trope that they try to force on us in the last couple of eps. I think
the writing and Dream's acting were so strong in the first three quarters of this Lakorn, that
you come away totally convinced of his hatred and totally unconvinced of the 'contrived' love
in the ending eps. It leaves a bitter taste in your mouth. I hope I can see Dream in a 'nicer' role
soon so I can get rid of this distaste. I think his acting skills are superb.
And I don't have as much sympathy for the FL as I did the first time around. The woman is just plain stupid. She puts up with abuse and mental torture, watching his infidelity with pain and
sorrow all because she 'loves' him. What a load of BS. Her reactions to his torture are where
the writing falls miserably short of being called decent or adequate. Only the ML's hate-filled
parts were well written. So I guess the writers must be mysogynistic (strongly prejudiced
against women) maybe?? :(
He had the long term girlfriend in tow, always promising to marry her and declaring undying
love, even though he had already married the FL. She is a real bitch too. Totally
unsympathetic character and her pairing with the SML was disappointing. He could have done much better than her!
I agree with others that the ML displayed unredeemable actions when he continued a public
intimate relationship with his girlfriend. The hurt that would cause the innocent girl who had
been tricked into loving him would be too much in reality and no woman with any self respect would stand for that behavior and stay with a man like that. It can't even be explained as him
wanting to revenge on her because there were a couple of instances early (before he knew
she was the daughter of his 'enemy') where he flirted with other women so basically he was a
tom cat in need of an operation and not to be trusted in the present or future.
When it all came crashing down and the FL's dad died indirectly because of his actions, he then discovered the truth (refusing to believe the facts until then) but by then it was too late.
He'd lost both women. The long term girlfriend was annoying (as usual for a SFL) and refused
to give up on him even when she could see plainly (supposedly)that he loved the FL. There
were some plot holes and leaps in logic but overall, a pretty good story.
It was pleasing to see that even though he confessed his mistakes and begged for
forgiveness, the FL really made him suffer for a long time. However this is one of the few
where I wish she had given him the boot permanently and she could find someone who
really treasured her. This moronic character would never be trustworthy.
In the end you came to pity him because he was a wounded little child, just needing to be
loved.
This is one of my top three most hated ML's, along with Film's character in Mia Tuean and
Dome's in Sanaeha Sunya Khaen.
In this one there wasn't the same level of physical abuse that some others dish out but too
much emotional cruelty. Too much.
So this is one where I actually hate the male lead character, admire the acting skills of the
actor who plays him, feel deep pity for the female lead but wish she would have more self
respect, and alternately loathe or like the other characters.
I especially disliked the head housekeeper who was nasty, bitchy and cruel (verbally) to
the FL for no reason. The child Noudee was as annoying as heck, and the wannabee boy
Wanlop was also an annoying brat who kept pushing himself uninvited on the FL, although
at least he came to her rescue later on. The SFL -P'Nan, was a totally unsympathetic
character. Really possesive, bitchy, nasty and not good enough for the man she ended up
with.
My main problem with this drama is the inconsistent writing. It was good in the first half but
the revenge fuelled hate he displayed was so overpowering that it was difficult to believe
the 'love' he finally admitted for the FL. They just didn't get the balance right.
This is a polarizing drama that you will either love or hate.
to remember her lines. The mum and dad were great. The ML was very good in this one and I think I liked him better than the lead in the remake. The characters had the same quality as the remake
so the FL's obstinance and deliberate prolonged misunderstanding was in this one too and just as annoying. The film quality in this early one was not the best but watchable. Overall I'm glad I
watched both versions. Watched on Lakorn Galaxy. Will re-watch.
clueless ML's out there. The second half was mostly scenes with him borderline incestously
hitting on his younger sister just to get back at his mother. All the while cruelly hurting the FL who had no clue what his intentions were. She just thought he was being unfaithful to her,
which he was of course.
You can't claim to love someone and then spend all your time publically chasing after someone else. No rational person would do that. Not if you truly loved, which he didn't. I don't think the
character was capable of true love. The writer's excuse? He felt so betrayed by his mother's
abandonment that the only way he could think to revenge on her was to seduce his younger
sister! Talk about sick and perverted.!Abandonment issues that twisted his mind. Revenge on his mother that hurt his innocent sister and the woman he claimed to love.
And the most infuriating part was when he had no clue why the FL was angry at him and
turned away from him. What? That's just nonsense. And of course you have to throw in the
obligatory -it's no big deal, they would have you believe-rape, just to make everything rosey.
The FL was a strong character, well played. Dome was okay. He does a good twisted creepy
character.
The second storyline of PIM and her husband was completely irrelevant to the main story and had nothing to do with it.
The most irritating characters to me are the two SML. P'Hao and P'Win. Both of them laid
claim to the FL in their own way. Hao was a stupid ape who was openly aggressive in his
possesivenssness of Rot, even though she had no interest in him at all. He never wised up
through the whole show and remained a dumb irritating character. P'Win was passive-
aggressive, trying to win her heart in his quiet way but always hovering around her. Both of
these dudes truly annoy me.
I won't even comment on the useless mother. Except to say that just about ANY mother in the world would have stepped in the very first time he started seducing/charming his clueless sister, and told the truth. That she was mother to both of them. Anything to protect her child. But no, she just kept quiet for the most stupid, illogical, flimsiest of reasons, just to draw the drama out.
I could go on but honestly this one is not for the faint hearted. Just the thought of the
incestuous actions (I know it wasn't really, but his intent was to make her fall in love with him.
It may not be truly incestuous by definition, but certainly YUK) by the ML is enough to turn
your stomach. It would have been tolerable with a better written script. Second on my list of 'never bother with this rubbish again',
Tawan and Pete break the hard shell of our ML bad boy until he transforms into the loving partner and father figure.
Aum played the character very well with a great depth of emotion and vulnerability-especially when he thinks Tawan and Pete have left him like everyone else has in his life. Some very sad scenes as he reacts to this. But all is good in the end of course. The story was very well
written with a strong bad guy who all along has plotted to discredit the ML and kill him. Some good side characters. Comic relief from the second lead couple who are very cute together. Strong
performance by the FL actress. She certainly is not a doormat like so many FL are. This is a great Lakorn with no slap-/kiss or other triggers except the abuse he dishes out to her in the beginning, but his abusive childhood was the reason for the this and by the end she has helped him work through these issues and change for the better.
My only complaint is there wasn't much skinship at all between the leads. This fitted with his character (being unable to express his emotions well )and the story but it would have been
nice to see a little more touching/hand holding which would have sold the romance more. Although the romance was a major part of it, the ML transformation and the mystery surrounding who was
really doing all the bad deeds, was more predominant. This one is definitely on my re watch list.
But apart from that, the drama itself...
This dude (the ML character, not Film who is one of my fav actors) has to be one of the most stupid, gullible fools out there. This is the first time I actually immensely disliked the ML character (with Dome's character from Sanaeha Sunya Kaen coming a close second).
He treated that poor girl like a piece of garbage, with NO basis for his assumption that she was a woman of easy virtue. He knew that her step evils were bad girls but still chose to believe
them with everything they said and did to make the FL look bad.
It was easy for them beause he was ready to think the worst of her every. single. time. He basically treated her like a prostitute and sexually assaulted her in just about every scene. Then of course,
the rape. Because how could they have a bub and play happy families without it?
Thankfully, she chose to respect herself and leave, so at least he had to spend two episodes searching for her, discovering what a fool he'd been and realising how good she really was, before the inevitable, happy ending. Let me tell you, I was really hoping that the happy ending would be that he never got to see her again and spent the remainder of his life regretting
his ridiculous actions. But alas, it's Lakorn Land where every rapist gets to live happily ever after with their Stockholm Syndrome affected partner and all is rosy.
While I love these type of dramas and understand that it's all make believe, I do wonder what sort of message they are sending to their viewers. And how does it influence the easily suggestible members of Thai society? It's a worry. And what about the actors? Do they get a choice of what work to accept? Because they too are role models and modelling this type of behaviour is something that should be given a great deal of thought. I know this drama is from the golden age
of slap/kiss/rape/repeat, and the more modern dramas are starting to send a more positive message about the treatment of women, so Yay! for today's writers and producers.
Sooooo. Even though the show has a lot of triggers, some really hateable characters, and a cliche ridden script, it was intersting enough to keep me watching to the end.
The funniest thing to me was the actress kept holding/rubbing her supposed baby bump but
they must have forgotten to put the fake tummy on, because there certainly wasn't any bump! The setting of the honeymoon hut was absolutely beautiful and idealic.
The acting was pretty good. I really became involved emotionally, especially for the FL. The story as I've said was triggering but written fairly decently except for the unbeliveably stupid ML character. The OST was nice but not invasive.
Re-watch: Probably not.
to drape herself all over him and yes, expect sexual intimacy but he manages to wriggle out of each situation without doing the deed. He attempts to rape her sister but if you listen to the dialogue later I think it was never going to be rape. He just wanted her siblings to know what it felt like to have someone they love abused. So no he doesn't cheat physically but yes he cheats emotionally and almost physically. The intent was there. Although I reckon the character was written to show that once he began to love her, he actually stopped doing the intimate rendevous etc with the sister in law. That's how i take it anyway.
through with his plans to destroy her family. The trigger moments for me are the evil sister in
law with whom he has an apparent affair- and sexual assault of the FL's sister. Well written to show the character's overall tormented revenge which at that stage of the story, was stronger than his love for the FL
But he got better and all was forgiven in an appropriate manner. Quite a bit of crazy girl
slapping but good to see the FL get a few of her own back as well. The ending is happy but
anti climactic after all the drama throughout the show. Good story with no plot holes and
woven beautifully to the end. A definite rewatch.
TALKING! Got very annoying very quickly. She did deliver some very believable emotions though, especially in the sad scenes. The ML was quite a dimensional character. Nasty to FL and
manipulative, deceiving her on a number of occasions to make her fall for him and not his brother. He then proceeds to dump the FL and agree to marry the very manipulative, selfish
'friend' Ran, who turned from a sweet character into a grasping, manipulative, cunning bitch who wanted him and tried to force him into marrying her (by threatening suicide) , thus destroying the marriage and happiness of him and the FL. But as long as she got what she wanted, she was a happy little girl. In the end she acted all noble and surrendered her love to allow the ML and FL
to get back together. but in reality she only did that because he grew a backbone suddenly and rejected her pathetic little self. Think you get the idea that I disliked the Ran character and in fact
the ML Sila character as well. The brother wasn't much better, allowing himself to become a tool for revenge against his own family because he was too stupid to realise it. Although this lakorn doesn't have any personal triggers for me such as rape, infidelity etc, it was certainly full of dramatic tension and kept me hooked right to the end. There were a lot of characters in this and they all acted their part really well with no unecessary characters added for humour or whatever. There were fourdistinct storylines which all played out and were woven together skillfully at the end. Happy ending of course but for me, the three or so episodes before the end when the FL had to watch him divorce her and get with the Ran character, were enough to make me feel unsatisfied. As lakorns go it was fairly light but still very tense. Very well written with some great acting. Rewatch- not sure.
Def. re-watch.
episodes. That was a nice bonus. The FL was a little more fiesty and independant than most FL's
in Lakorns but still not quite enough. It's infuriating they way they just stand there and allow
themselves to be insulted and disrespected and say nothing. Come on writers, this is the 21st
century. Start writing some quality stuff that doesn't demean women and make men out to be
bullying thugs. In this show all the tom cats hanging around her (except the ML) were only after her for her body and/or her assets. And she wasn't clear in her dealings with them and did
encourage their attentions, which was disappointing but it wouldn't have been much of a
drama without that stuff. I may re watch this beause I like looking at Big M!
He chose to devote himself to Wayoon and Lila, and Wayoon was honest with him
but I still cried for him. Ramin....what a stupid jerk. He loved her, but just didn't have enough
guts to stand up to his hateful aunt so his love was at best, tainted by his selfishness and
cowardice. If I didn't love the role Pie played in Leh Ratree, I would really hate her, but she's
a fine actress, able to generate a lot of emotions and believability. She's great! And what's with
the ridiculous assumption by Wayoon's aunt that Lila needed her real father in her life. You know...
the one who wanted to kill her in the womb? Lila didn't need that kind of father. She had a
perfectly good father and role model in Nicolai, even in his role as friend to Wayoon and not lover. In the end, as with so many Lakorns,, Ramin's repentance and apology was a few short lines and hey
presto! He's back in business. Yikes! One of the first times I sorta wished that the main leads
didn't end up together. Or at least he should have suffered more. But there you go...it's Thai
drama land. I'll probably watch this again, if I have nothing else to watch.
Nice to know they are actually partners in real life since 2011. You can tell. They are just so
natural and affectionate with continuously sweet body language that no amount of acting would pull off.
The storyline was very interesting with lots of martial arts fighting and a well developed
plot. Good supporting actors who did their job very well. I didn't pick up anyone who was over acting or an inexperienced actor. The bad girl was very hateable. The Second male lead was seriously bad yet had a pure love for the FL and died for her in the end. There were quite a few characters who were redemed by the end and many baddies who got their just desserts. Will definitely watch again at some stage, even if just for the lovely lead couple.
The Japanese setting, costumes etc was beautiful and added extra appeal.
Only reason I didn't give it a 10 is because of the evil girl love rival. That type of character always makes me tense because I don't like what they do to the main female lead character and they never seem to get the bad ending they deserve. Just get away with a 'sorry'. The only evil love rival/ SFL who got what she really deserved was the Sansanee character in Jam Loey Rak. There's probably more but that's just the Lakorns I've watched so far.
Um...Maybe her other projects have given her a better vehicle and her acting has improved...sigh. Not a bad storyline. The evil female love rival was probably the best actor our of the lot of them, although I am a big fan of Film and he did quite well. There were a couple of plot holes and some decidely stupid exmples of NO communication between the characters which would have solved everything, but then what would they have made all the drama about if there wasn't these dumb misunderstandings? I know they are an over-used plot device to create drama, tension and move the story along. I get it. But couldn't we come up with some new ones writers?
And the nost notable thing for me was that the actors seemed to be waiting for each other to say their lines. There were a lot of 'pregnant pauses' in the action and dialogue where they just stood around and waited for the next line to be delivered. Made it seem rather amateurish. Having said all that, it was a not so bad example of a cliche ridded lakorn and was a good watch. Not too taxing on the brain cells. Dunno about watching it again though.