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Nah, there was a scene in an earlier episode on when the chairman ordered MyungHui to his room after he kicked out wife to the annex. So basically she got the room whenever wife got booted. Before, she was looking all sad about it. Now, she is in her black widow mode and so perhaps enjoying the thrill? 😬

Besides there was no way chairman was living like a monk for 30 years and kept her around for nothing. The guy is too self-centered.

MyungHui's revenge is like a house built of pack of cards. It does not seem like she has achieved anything in these 30 years or so. As Min Jun said, she seems to be focused on Adele to the point that he even seems like a pawn. So what exactly does she hope to achieve? Somehow, by taking over Adele, her sister's death will be brought to light? That makes no sense and even if it does happen, so what? Not like any of these characters will get prosecuted as too many years have happened. If she is supposed to be doing all this to protect MinJun, she is doing a fairly poor job considering the guy has no autonomy, no personality and no life.

Chloe has better chemistry with Hyun Jun and I wonder if audience reaction made the writer perhaps tweak the love lines?

There have been older dramas where this happened. I am reminded of the old drama "Bread, love and dreams" (also known as King of Baking). In the beginning, FL and brother#1 had a small romance. But then they split up and she marries brother#2 and both are doing it for revenge/twisted reasons. In the end, they stay together. So maybe that is what is happening here?

My guess is that he isn't actually Tae Ho's son. Instead, he will turn out to be the son of Geun Tae, the driver/bodyguard/henchman of the wife lady killer.
Clue: Hyun Jun has bombastic styles and also a kind of lazy air. Similar to Geun Tae who seems way too happy to just hang in this mad house.

After some really strong episodes, we did get a superbly flat ending that was kind of meh.

So we had KyungChae unraveling, being haunted, having memory lapses and having this great guilt on her head. It made sense that she would get amnesia but then getting it because of a whack on her head from golf stick was rather dumb.

It felt out of nowhere that all of a sudden JiSeop was going off kilter when he barely did anything useful the whole drama. Also, she and Lucia are kind of friendly. That was off.

If they had just shown Lucia watch it all from a distance, then it would have felt more bittersweet. Instead, we had this odd closing scene where Lucia assures that KyungChae was the best mom. Okay, KyungChae is not well but Lucia is so good??? Ummm, ok.

In the end, Seri got lifelong punishment in a way. She has chosen to be a caretaker to KyungChae and it is not easy to be one at such a young age. There will be lots of stressors and to top it off, KyungChae does not remember her. It is like early stage dementia patient and that is not easy to handle at all. So it felt like Seri got punished while KyungChae ended up escaping through her amnesia/dementia in a way.

At least they had Chairman still be unrepentant but how on earth was JiSeop not punished for assault? So it really does feel like the writer didn't know what to do after those golden episodes where we saw some great acting chops.

After watching so many dailies, one tends to just roll eyes at yet another birth twist secret but in this drama, it actually was necessary.

Without the birth twist reveal, KyungChae would have never understood the tragedy of what happened to MiSo as she is someone who does not feel empathy for others. It needed to be her loss personally in order for her to understand that her actions were not okay.

In a way, it is reflective of society as there are many parents think that when it comes to other people's kids, they don't care but when it is their own, it matters.

TaeGyeong warned KyungChae that she will lose everything she holds one by one. So in order for her to fall to the ground with a huge thud, she needs to lose:
1. The company and her position
2. Her daughter and relationship with SeRi
3. Her sense of being elite because she is part of the Min family

The writer better not disappoint and give us the birth twist with Manager Gong that we are all suspecting. Out of all the losses, really want to see what kind of reaction she has when she realizes that she is just as common as everyone else and is not entitled to anything like she had believed her whole life.

Also I do appreciate that the villains -- chairman, KyungChae and SeonJae have been doing a fantastic job acting wise. The writing for them has been on point that they come off as fully fleshed characters and complex. We never can predict how they can react.

I also appreciate the role of Manager Gong. It was kind of cool that the ultimate twist in this drama was delivered by a minor/side character. Usually these housekeeper type characters are there but don't have much development.

Rather than SeonJae, my guess would be on the ghost/image of MiSo popping up to save Lucia and KyungChae totally loses it. The episode has a total horror theme vibe which was interesting.

Alternatively Seri could jump in to save Lucia and it would be another daughter that KyungChae has a hand in hurting. That would be kind of poetic as well.

Same. I am actually curious about how the ending will be.

Lie after Lie is one of my fav dramas and it is really well-acted. The villains are hard to understand and there is an unexpected twist at the end. Watch if you are in the mood for melo. And the FL isn't so much a villainess but rather desperate in a sad way.

Because it is live shoots, I always have hope the writer will change tracks when it comes to chemistry-less leads and do a swap. 😂 There have been some dramas where that actually happened. Given the number of twists that keep happening in this one, I don't see a linear romance track even if it is meant to be HaNeul and JungWon in the end.

SeHoon surprised me as well -- he is showing himself to be a loyal man and as his father put it, very much one-woman man. It is interesting that his loyalty is essentially being equated with obsession or lack of practically by the other characters. Basically rather than see this as a transactional marriage, he sees it as real. If she didn't reciprocate, then his feelings for her can be seen in a negative light. However, she does feel some for him and it isn't the lack of feelings on her part. So far, he hasn't done anything to control or curtail her or force her to feel anything.

It did crack me up when he asked if she was dying from some terminal disease or having loan sharks or in love with HaNeul - the guy obviously watches daily dramas! 😂

The difference between HyeRa and NaSook is that HyeRa struggles to own her ambition. A part of her wants that image she has of being gentle, regal and elegant. She struggles with being who she really is and there is a lot of fear and anxiety. Hence the constant tears. There seems to be a war within herself.

NaSook on the other hand owns her ambition and sees it as the way of the world. She has no problem with being underhanded or doing any number of questionable things to achieve her goals. The grandma/chef Hong gets more of a reaction from her when it comes to upending her. 😂

OST part 1 for anyone interested:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5capsXjDPsk
To The End - 빨간의자 (Red Chair)

BGM for anyone interested (I do like the violin score in this):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifXabJ_5lhE

how many more episodes do we have?

KyungChae really has entitlement complex and believes she and her family are free to do as they wish because they are elite. In order for her to really fall, there has to be a birth secret that reveals that she is not so elite and she doesn't get to use and hurt people at will. Please let Manager Gong be her bio-mom!

P.S -- head thug is kind of cute. anyone else think so? 😉

Like others have mentioned, not a fan on HaNeul and frankly he is boring as he does not do anything. SeHoon is surprisingly interesting and his feelings for JungWon seems to be genuine. JungWon isn't that good of an actress or player to fake it and so I am guessing their marriage is far more real than she realizes.

Despite all the lies, he likes her as she is though everyone keeps questioning his feelings as it is supposed to be a transactional marriage. He is a lot more firmer than I expected and he really stood by his wife in the last few episodes.

The question is what he will do when he finds out the truth. Given that he already suspects HyeRa had something to do with his mother's hospitalization, he might end up taking revenge by playing his own games on JungWon as she is HyeRa's daughter.

The big themes of this drama seems to be about identity and how we see ourselves and how that impacts our actions. So what is love when the mask is ripped off? There are multiple relationships impacted but also two marriages -- father and son as well as mother and daughter. Both will have to face the question if they are really loved for who they are. At what point can the lies not be excused and the love cracks?

If Manager Gong is revealed to be bio-mom, then it fits right in this drama of people switching babies, not raising their own children -- basically a kind of generational curse that is being played out in different lifetimes.

Let's see how the writer plays it out -- like you said, entitlement always hides a secret and so it would be absurd that Manager Gong feels entitled to make life altering decisions as just an employee. As SeonJae noted, no employee is going to be so loyal these days.

KyungChae asked Manager Gong the all important question -- what right did she have to interfere in her life like that? Manager does not answer and instead states that she would do the switch again if she could go back and stands by her call. The writer better answer this riddle because this is plain weird that an employee would dare to make a decision like this and sees no problem with what she did. The only way it would make sense is if Manager Gong is her bio mom and therefore feels entitled to make such a decision.