Okay. I get it. Kinn finally gets a chance to bang Porsche (while he was under the influence of some kind of drug).…
Maybe it'll be just s*x for him, maybe he'll be angry or won't remember. I agree that, though chemistry and attraction seem to be present ,when it comes to romantic feelings, P is not yet there.
I would categorize the whole scene more as dub-con than non-con as a whole. Because while it is true that Porsche…
Yes and how he will react to them sleepingwith each other. I hope they won't give us a "i dont remember". Everyone defending the pure conscious/consent trope are going to look very stupid if he reacts badly hahaha
Life* sorry. You are entitled to your opinion, don't let the others tell you otherwise. The scene was not fully white and it's okay to have a problem with it 😉
I agree with you, I still think it's not 100% okay that they did it when Porsche was high, I hoped it wouldn't…
You very well expressed how I personally feel about that scene!! I 100% agree with everything you said. I feel like the clear chemistry and attraction that exist between them and how we view it and process it is what makes the difference between those who are somewhat okay with the scene and those who aren't. I can't deny the fact that they feel for each other and that's why I can be "okay" with it and can see Porsche making the first move as sincere and "willing" on his part even though he's not in full control of his capacities. They definetly want each other. But we still can't ignore that Porsche has been drugged.
I would categorize the whole scene more as dub-con than non-con as a whole. Because while it is true that Porsche…
And you have the right to view that scene that way, I'm not too far from your reasoning though I still very much acknowledge that P is still in the end drugged. I feel like the clear chemistry between the two helps that narrative. But some people can't get past the fact that P cannot be consenting since he's drugged and don't see it our way, and I get that.
Some of y'all really try to pass a no clear "no" or Porsche being the investigators of the touching as consent and it's fucking creepy. He didn't have a drop of alcohol so his behaviour was clearly the result of him being drugged. He was acting like a drunk even though he didn't drink.
I like to think that Porsche wanted it too, and that he won't regret and all, and I personally don't have much of a problem with the scene, but please let's not justify the clear absence of discernment through loopholes (he initiated it, he wanted it etc... yall sound like men just trying to justify r*pe). It's fictional, mafia, blablabla so some people can accepte some things better than others, and one might not have a problem with the s*x scene since it "looked" like P wanted it (me for exemple). But a lot of yall are women and should know better than trying to "invent" consent under drug abuse circumstances by saying that P wanted it and he investigated the touching so that makes the fact that he is drugged go away. It doesn't. And you sound creepy. Like, just say it doesn't bother you, it's fine, you're allowed, but don't act like people being weird out by the scene are exaggerating the fact that one is clearly drugged.
He clearly did since he was acting like drunk, but if one has a discussion back and forth while staying on the…
Let's not do that lol To somehow let it slip because it's fictional and all like, sure. But it's dangerous thing to say IRL that him not pushing kinn away = consent when he was clearly drugged.
wait lmaoooo I thought the weird face Kinn was making when kissing P in the bathroom was because he was trying to taste what kind of drug he was on, but then I remembered, P actually puked loool and didn't wash his mouth!
lmaoooo so this is what not censored mean ???? btw, consent much ? or was he supposedly tasting to see if Porsche no longer had the drug in his system ? they doomed the whole BL industry lol, nothing chaste will ever satisfy the fans after this they gave us everything!
They are gaslighting us. They want to make us feel like our opinion is invalidated by "facts" or whatever, as…
You don't need to prove anything to people who are racists, you could live in a palace and they would still be racist. It has nothing to do with who's right or wrong, they would rather die than let black people and POC speak up about the problematic things they live.
I like to think that Porsche wanted it too, and that he won't regret and all, and I personally don't have much of a problem with the scene, but please let's not justify the clear absence of discernment through loopholes (he initiated it, he wanted it etc... yall sound like men just trying to justify r*pe). It's fictional, mafia, blablabla so some people can accepte some things better than others, and one might not have a problem with the s*x scene since it "looked" like P wanted it (me for exemple). But a lot of yall are women and should know better than trying to "invent" consent under drug abuse circumstances by saying that P wanted it and he investigated the touching so that makes the fact that he is drugged go away. It doesn't. And you sound creepy.
Like, just say it doesn't bother you, it's fine, you're allowed, but don't act like people being weird out by the scene are exaggerating the fact that one is clearly drugged.
To somehow let it slip because it's fictional and all like, sure. But it's dangerous thing to say IRL that him not pushing kinn away = consent when he was clearly drugged.
I thought the weird face Kinn was making when kissing P in the bathroom was because he was trying to taste what kind of drug he was on, but then I remembered, P actually puked loool and didn't wash his mouth!
btw, consent much ? or was he supposedly tasting to see if Porsche no longer had the drug in his system ?
they doomed the whole BL industry lol, nothing chaste will ever satisfy the fans after this
they gave us everything!