There is a difference between reading it and seeing it. That's one of the main reason a lot of people are ok with the bad sh*t that happen it dark romance/mafia books. To say they wanted the actors to enact a violent r*pe scene compared is weird, not matter what you read.
Thank you lmaoo no prep, no candom, no lube, but sure yeah.
Realistic s*x is not interesting to people, it takes time, effort, and they wanted to go with spontaneity. I mean look at hetero s*x scenes in general, what even is that ? They always try to glamourise s*x, making it sexy when it's supposed to be messy. If there is one thing about fiction you should never try to argue with, is about how fictional the s*x scenes are. Nothing more fictional than that. For het s*x you can, if you try really hard, pretend that it's naturally lubbed well down there and the girl is by miracle aroused in 5mn (.....) but yeah gay s*x scenes like that one are the worst. No natural lube, just sand hahahaa
Okay. I get it. Kinn finally gets a chance to bang Porsche (while he was under the influence of some kind of drug).…
Maybe it'll be just s*x for him, maybe he'll be angry or won't remember. I agree that, though chemistry and attraction seem to be present ,when it comes to romantic feelings, P is not yet there.
I would categorize the whole scene more as dub-con than non-con as a whole. Because while it is true that Porsche…
Yes and how he will react to them sleepingwith each other. I hope they won't give us a "i dont remember". Everyone defending the pure conscious/consent trope are going to look very stupid if he reacts badly hahaha
Life* sorry. You are entitled to your opinion, don't let the others tell you otherwise. The scene was not fully white and it's okay to have a problem with it š
I agree with you, I still think it's not 100% okay that they did it when Porsche was high, I hoped it wouldn't…
You very well expressed how I personally feel about that scene!! I 100% agree with everything you said. I feel like the clear chemistry and attraction that exist between them and how we view it and process it is what makes the difference between those who are somewhat okay with the scene and those who aren't. I can't deny the fact that they feel for each other and that's why I can be "okay" with it and can see Porsche making the first move as sincere and "willing" on his part even though he's not in full control of his capacities. They definetly want each other. But we still can't ignore that Porsche has been drugged.
I would categorize the whole scene more as dub-con than non-con as a whole. Because while it is true that Porsche…
And you have the right to view that scene that way, I'm not too far from your reasoning though I still very much acknowledge that P is still in the end drugged. I feel like the clear chemistry between the two helps that narrative. But some people can't get past the fact that P cannot be consenting since he's drugged and don't see it our way, and I get that.
Some of y'all really try to pass a no clear "no" or Porsche being the investigators of the touching as consent and it's fucking creepy. He didn't have a drop of alcohol so his behaviour was clearly the result of him being drugged. He was acting like a drunk even though he didn't drink.
I like to think that Porsche wanted it too, and that he won't regret and all, and I personally don't have much of a problem with the scene, but please let's not justify the clear absence of discernment through loopholes (he initiated it, he wanted it etc... yall sound like men just trying to justify r*pe). It's fictional, mafia, blablabla so some people can accepte some things better than others, and one might not have a problem with the s*x scene since it "looked" like P wanted it (me for exemple). But a lot of yall are women and should know better than trying to "invent" consent under drug abuse circumstances by saying that P wanted it and he investigated the touching so that makes the fact that he is drugged go away. It doesn't. And you sound creepy. Like, just say it doesn't bother you, it's fine, you're allowed, but don't act like people being weird out by the scene are exaggerating the fact that one is clearly drugged.
That's r*pe drug, it's even worse than I thought!
They always try to glamourise s*x, making it sexy when it's supposed to be messy.
If there is one thing about fiction you should never try to argue with, is about how fictional the s*x scenes are. Nothing more fictional than that. For het s*x you can, if you try really hard, pretend that it's naturally lubbed well down there and the girl is by miracle aroused in 5mn (.....) but yeah gay s*x scenes like that one are the worst. No natural lube, just sand hahahaa
I like to think that Porsche wanted it too, and that he won't regret and all, and I personally don't have much of a problem with the scene, but please let's not justify the clear absence of discernment through loopholes (he initiated it, he wanted it etc... yall sound like men just trying to justify r*pe). It's fictional, mafia, blablabla so some people can accepte some things better than others, and one might not have a problem with the s*x scene since it "looked" like P wanted it (me for exemple). But a lot of yall are women and should know better than trying to "invent" consent under drug abuse circumstances by saying that P wanted it and he investigated the touching so that makes the fact that he is drugged go away. It doesn't. And you sound creepy.
Like, just say it doesn't bother you, it's fine, you're allowed, but don't act like people being weird out by the scene are exaggerating the fact that one is clearly drugged.