i didnt see him as a red flag, rather as someone not in touch with their emotions with little understanding of…
im not upset 🤣 were literally just having a conversation. To first comment on the last paragraph, I actually meant to say abusers not victims. The logic you're applying to Sorn would have you siding with the abusers. "oh hes not a rad flag he just has red flag behaviors" "hes just emotionally immature, just suck it up and get over it like Jun did." Your definition of what a red flag is, is so limited. There are PLENTY of truly awful, evil people who do not have antisocial behavior personality traits, that you apparently would just not see as a red flag.
I dont care what Sorn's motives are, they dont matter. As I said, even after he realized how much he hurt Jun, he STILL continued to push his boundaries. He still continues to act selfishly and puts his own desires before Jun.
Of course you're allowed to have your own interpretations in and outside of fiction. But that doesn't mean others can't hard-core disagree with you as I have here. The fact that someone disagrees with you about a character does not mean they can't tell the difference between fiction and reality. And no, I'm not perfect. I'm just not ok with abusive behavior and I'm not going to like a character who is an abuser.
i didnt see him as a red flag, rather as someone not in touch with their emotions with little understanding of…
he is 100% a full red flag and is not redeemable. this is clearly his nature. even when hes trying to "do better" and "court" Jun to win him back over, his actions do not change. He still pushes Jun's boundaries and does things Jun is saying he doesn't want him to do. Also you're describing him as an emotionally immature person with selfish and immature behavior. You essentially just defined what a red flag is. Jun overlooks a lot of this behavior and certainly does love and want attention from Sorn. Thats textbook behavior from a domestic abuse victim. You logic and interpretation would end up siding with a large percentage of domestic abuse victims.
i didnt see him as a red flag, rather as someone not in touch with their emotions with little understanding of…
honestly not seeing Sorn as a red flag is a red flag in itself. He is irredeemably. He does things to Jun without consent repeatedly, he is mentally and emotionally manipulative. This is not a man who is simply "not in touch with their emotions." this is a man who, outside of the fantasy of BL, would be an abusive partner and a rapist.
I feel like defending P'Sorn. He has to take accountability for keeping the dynamic a situationship rather than…
I just can't get on board with Sorn. sure hes driving him places and taking him places, but what is the cost? Mental and emotional manipulation and torture? Abusers show care to the people they abuse all the fucking time. Im really trying to see some redeeming quality in him, I really am, but hes truly just awful. The fact that hes hot is pretty much the only reason im still watching.
But you are 😠not new to BL right? He expressed himself that it's a psychological reason and he meant during…
Dude, you have not addressed a single statement I've made. And now you're just simply talking nonsense. I'm the one not respecting boundaries? By claiming that people have the right to have boundaries during sex? You've completely lost the plot. There's no point in continuing this conversation. You clearly do not think people should have autonomy over their own bodies and are not arguing in good faith. I hope you grow.
But you are 😠not new to BL right? He expressed himself that it's a psychological reason and he meant during…
if you watch this show and think WSW is being forced to be submissive then there's no point in further conversation because it's almost like we're watching different shows. WSW clearly loves the sexual dynamic they have. Also, my profile doesn't say im a girl? I have zero information on my profile. I'm a gay man.
But you are 😠not new to BL right? He expressed himself that it's a psychological reason and he meant during…
I love how you've never actually addressed any of the points I've made. If Wu Sowei had bottoming as his boundary, they would simply not be together. This happens among gay men all the time "we're sexually incompatable so we can't be together." As the previous commenter said, Wu Sowei is clearly happy with their sexual dynamic. While I do agree Wu Sowei would like to top sometimes, clearly its not that important to him any longer. The whole scene you're upset about has WSW very clearly joking around with CC, knowing what his answer would be. WSW clearly knows this is a boundary for CC, and while he can poke a little fun at it, is not willing to push that boundary. You're refusing to acknowledge my point that suggesting that someone refuse to accept someone's sexual boundaries and suggesting that someone is wrong for having those sexual boundaries is incredibly gross. I'm hoping you're just entirely clueless how gay relationships actually work, because otherwise, like I said earlier, you come across as very rapey. You're suggesting that CC's own boundaries be ignored and that he be sexually violated.
But you are 😠not new to BL right? He expressed himself that it's a psychological reason and he meant during…
His boundary is bottoming. He has EVERY right not to want to bottom. To think otherwise is incredibly rapey. This is a boundary gay men set all the time. Its incredibly disturbing that you think setting sexual boundaries is just pride.
Let me share to you all the exact conversation that happened b/w CC and WSW in the bathtub scene when WSW escaped…
Will this type of relationship last? Gay couples who fall into specific sexual roles exist all the time and last. I find your comments to be incredibly disturbing.
But you are 😠not new to BL right? He expressed himself that it's a psychological reason and he meant during…
As a gay man myself, I find your comments absurd. You're shaming the other commenters, while your own comments are suggesting someone should do something sexually that they are not comfortable with. Would you suggest this to a woman? Would you shame a woman for not wanting to do butt stuff with her partner? this is a boundary that Chi Cheng is not willing to cross and he should not be shamed for that. You're suggesting that his boundaries should be crossed which is not a good look for you.
I dont care what Sorn's motives are, they dont matter. As I said, even after he realized how much he hurt Jun, he STILL continued to push his boundaries. He still continues to act selfishly and puts his own desires before Jun.
Of course you're allowed to have your own interpretations in and outside of fiction. But that doesn't mean others can't hard-core disagree with you as I have here. The fact that someone disagrees with you about a character does not mean they can't tell the difference between fiction and reality. And no, I'm not perfect. I'm just not ok with abusive behavior and I'm not going to like a character who is an abuser.