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Complexity is good, but the writing has to be good as well. Complex alone means very little if it's not done well. The 12-year time jump just wasn't very believable. So much time has passed, but they are somehow the exact same characters with little growth or change. Dohoe supposedly went through his entire 20s without working through or addressing any of his trauma. They still act like teenagers, they still look as they did, just wearing more "adult" clothes.

Their estrangement was also basically founded on a misunderstanding, which to me suggests not so much complexity as a mere plot device to provide a forced separation and then a reunion.

I don't particularly care for the story, nor do I necessarily think they're right for one another. But it's well-directed and Lee Seon is very beautiful so I'll stick with it until the end. Could've been one of the great KBLs with a better script. The time jump especially just didn't work for me verisimilitude-wise.

Kisskh have the episodes uploaded with the iQIYI subtitles

Let's just say that JCW fans are very committed. He was originally meant to be a part of the cast. When it turned out he chose to exit (probably prioritizing his current projects and the upcoming high-profile Netflix project), some are understandably disappointed and some seem to think they just used him for promo.

He has been offered the new project from the Lovely Runner director:

"According to an exclusive report on the 31st, Ahn Hyo-seop has been confirmed to have been cast in the new drama 'Night of Heaven' by director Yoon Jong-ho, who directed tvN's 'Sunjae Up and Run'.

In the drama, Ahn Hyo-seop plays the role of Cheong Guk, a former taekwondo athlete and current ace of the secret club 'Cibelome' (French for 'handsome man'). Cheong Guk, who has a tall and muscular body as expected from an athlete, is a character who jumps into the entertainment industry after taking on loan sharking debts due to his stepmother who ran away with his father's death insurance money."

(Source: https://m.entertain.naver.com/article/108/0003278451)

The article says "confirmed" but a statement suggests that he's been offered the drama, will meet with the director, and is "reviewing the offer positively". Hopefully he'll accept it.

Seems he bowed out due to scheduling. Looks like he's joining a Netflix project too in addition to what he's already working on.

She's a great actress and should pick more interesting projects like Kim Tae-ri.

Very strange that his name got changed to L considering he's credited as Kim Myung-soo in his dramas and this is kisskh lol

They are clearly using AI/machine translated subs for this drama, which is offensive to subscribers. The iQIYI subtitles are much better and clearly done by an actual human.

Seems like the switch comes already in the next episode, so at least you would be wrong about it happening at the last minute. But we'll see. I agree the writing surrounding the misunderstanding and the time jump has been underwelming and disappointing.

Clearly the filial piety is not that strong considering Dohoe ghosted his father for 12 years without remorse.

And we’re all reading the stories in the news about the elderly committing suicide in Korea because their children don’t need them and they feel like a burden. It may have been like that culturally once, but there doesn’t seem to be much left of it.

I don't agree that keeping the relationship with Dohoe's father was the only way to see him again. People fall out of touch all the time despite having been close, especially during big changes such as starting college and the like. It doesn't mean you have to become a de facto adoptive son of that person's abusive father to stay tethered to them. If anything that just guaranteed that Dohoe definitely would not want to get back in touch with him, considering that's the very person he was trying to be free of.

As for the funeral, I also disagree with your opinion about Dohoe's movtivation.

Well his dad and Juyeong essentially became a package deal, didn't they.

I'm confused about everyone taking Juyeong's side. I would also be pretty pissed and inclined to be mean if someone I loved became like a new son to my abusive dad who made my life hell. I can't fault Dohoe at all for focusing fully on building a career so he could finally be free, just like he always wanted. At this point I understand Dohoe more than I understand Juyeong, but I don't want to demonize either of them.

Thanks! I should probably just start over with accurate subs lol

Yeah, and the pacing is also off for me. They just met and then entrance exams and then boom 12 years later, as if poor Lee Seon could possibly pass for being 30. No room for the story to breathe.

Are there better subs anywhere?

Still scratching my head at the English subtitles. They are so poorly done, it's like a puzzle to figure out what they're trying to say and what's going on half the time, which is extremely distracting.

BHS is the MVP for me so far, but they're all well-cast.

Have you seen the rest of the cast? It's packed. Big ensemble.