damn the last half hour of the last ep had me shook. I rarely get shocked by something like this but I was really not expecting that. I felt more anxiety in the last 30 min than compared to the whole drama.
The biggest problem with all of your analysis (and many others) is that just because someone likes the story does…
Well, it's not that easy. I may be aware of the dangers of behaviour like that now because I am an adult. But if you would've asked me when I was a teenager I would've found this absolutely swoon worthy and I would've wanted a guy like that and I wouldn't have thought about him actually not changing his behaviour for our love. I am able to distinguish between reality and fiction, that's why I sometimes wish for the death of fictional characters but I'd never go as far in real life. But I cannot help feeling so alert when I see something like this in fiction because the Meteor Garden franchise (though I've read this one is the most harmless so far) romantacizes abuse. I just cannot love something in fiction what I'm totally against in real life. Also, I never said I don't like the story, because I am mostly actually talking about a character here. If I hated it I would've stopped at ep 4. So far, I am just tolerating most of it because the female lead doesn't feel as bothered by it as I am. And that's just basically what my comment is about. Everybody argues that people have different tastes in real life compared to fiction, but what about people like me who prefers the same type of romance in real life and in fiction? If you look at it from my point of you, most of it is just wrong.
how about people can differentiate between what type of person they're attracted to in real life vs what type…
Ay, ofc i know that nobody's perfect and even the perfect guy has his imperfections. I am just very particular when it comes to abuse and manipulation. It's something I am personally very scared of and like I said I never thought of how even the smallest kind of abuse in my eyes is not necessarily the same for other people. I am not judging Si (anymore), I do like him now and I look at him as a character with development and there is nothing more I like in a story than when characters learn from their mistakes and get "better". So I may not ship him with myself (haha) but I do ship him with our female lead. and yes, I rarely watch Thai dramas. the whole "slap'n'kiss" genre is something I cannot wrap my head around.
how about people can differentiate between what type of person they're attracted to in real life vs what type…
well, that may be the case, but I personally don't understand why my taste in men would be different in fiction compared to in real life. I mean I won't deny that I have guilty pleasures sometimes but that's only because I'm viewing the story from an omnicient point of view. Also, I feel like it is still the same, because apparently my relationship goals for fiction, as perfect as they seem to me, are still not everybody's relationship goals.
I loved LMH 6 years ago, he was with no doubt my favourite Korean actor, but I still hated it sooooo much. But I'd definitely wouldn't count the very high possibility out
I just finished ep 8 and I had the biggest revelation. From reading comments I know that most people love Si the most, and though I like him too (now), I know I'd never date a guy like him because, even if he is the most honest about his emotions and sincerely cares and loves her, there are still moments I can just hardly tolerate. For example when he drags her around, commands her what to do, pressuring her to be with him even if she tells him she isn't his girlfriend, cornering her and evading her personal space and making her feel uncomfortable. But I just realized that even if I don't like it at all and want to be treated like an absolute princess by my boyfriend, there are people that like being treated like what I consider to be a little too rough. because if we just erase the frighten and the forced kiss in ep 4, he was somehow very nice to her and didn't commit any crimes. So my big revelation is, that my picture of a perfect guy (someone soft, caring and calm) is just not everybody's dream guy. I know it sounds dumb but I really never thought about the fact that my (kinda pretty feminist) view on a romantic relationship is not for everybody and that there is no right way to date.
That said, Shancai still feels uncomfortable, so I still believe he should stop with it and then again, since I know she'll fall in love with him, what he does doesn't seem to bother her actually that much, also considering, that she never calls him out on evading her personal space and treating her like his possession, even if she is very outspoken in everything else she doesn't like.
Edit: after reading your replies I just want to say that most can distinguish between reality and fiction. However, dramas like this still promote and romantacizes behaviour like this, what I just cannot ignore. I do like the story and I do like Si, but there is just not enough talk about how some of his behaviour should mostly not be tolerated in real life. We talk about it a lot in Social Media but why can it not be criticized in fiction?
Thirty but seventeen Love @ seventeen Suddenly seventeen
... honestly what is so great about 17. When I was that age it was pretty shit because they would view you as an adult but then again you were still a minor .... ... maybe that's the appeal?
I was the same when I saw that happen in ep 4 tbh. I wish it never had because that is the one thing I hate about…
thank you, I feel at ease now. I also wish they would've just leave it out. It was already hard when he scared her and hindered her from escaping but than that forced kiss and her screaming and weeping. It was just too much. but I am glad his behaviour changed. maybe I can now watch it.
guuys, I am at ep4 and he just secxually assaulted her .... I don't know if I can do this. it's a major red flag. You know how this behaviour ends IRL????? not good.
someone tell me if there is a similar scene from the male lead after that. I can barely get around the bullying but if it gets this physical I need to stay morally correct and boycott this.
first of all, this looks amazing. second of all, I already know it's going to take forever til it's subbed third of all, I am also very sure this has a tragic ending
I just wonder why I should bother watching a drama if I already know that it is definitely going to end tragic? I mean, even if it is after a real story, just surprise me while I think that maybe you surprise me with a happy ending.
YES!
I am able to distinguish between reality and fiction, that's why I sometimes wish for the death of fictional characters but I'd never go as far in real life.
But I cannot help feeling so alert when I see something like this in fiction because the Meteor Garden franchise (though I've read this one is the most harmless so far) romantacizes abuse.
I just cannot love something in fiction what I'm totally against in real life.
Also, I never said I don't like the story, because I am mostly actually talking about a character here. If I hated it I would've stopped at ep 4. So far, I am just tolerating most of it because the female lead doesn't feel as bothered by it as I am. And that's just basically what my comment is about.
Everybody argues that people have different tastes in real life compared to fiction, but what about people like me who prefers the same type of romance in real life and in fiction? If you look at it from my point of you, most of it is just wrong.
I am just very particular when it comes to abuse and manipulation. It's something I am personally very scared of and like I said I never thought of how even the smallest kind of abuse in my eyes is not necessarily the same for other people.
I am not judging Si (anymore), I do like him now and I look at him as a character with development and there is nothing more I like in a story than when characters learn from their mistakes and get "better". So I may not ship him with myself (haha) but I do ship him with our female lead.
and yes, I rarely watch Thai dramas. the whole "slap'n'kiss" genre is something I cannot wrap my head around.
I mean I won't deny that I have guilty pleasures sometimes but that's only because I'm viewing the story from an omnicient point of view.
Also, I feel like it is still the same, because apparently my relationship goals for fiction, as perfect as they seem to me, are still not everybody's relationship goals.
But I'd definitely wouldn't count the very high possibility out
From reading comments I know that most people love Si the most, and though I like him too (now), I know I'd never date a guy like him because, even if he is the most honest about his emotions and sincerely cares and loves her, there are still moments I can just hardly tolerate. For example when he drags her around, commands her what to do, pressuring her to be with him even if she tells him she isn't his girlfriend, cornering her and evading her personal space and making her feel uncomfortable.
But I just realized that even if I don't like it at all and want to be treated like an absolute princess by my boyfriend, there are people that like being treated like what I consider to be a little too rough. because if we just erase the frighten and the forced kiss in ep 4, he was somehow very nice to her and didn't commit any crimes.
So my big revelation is, that my picture of a perfect guy (someone soft, caring and calm) is just not everybody's dream guy.
I know it sounds dumb but I really never thought about the fact that my (kinda pretty feminist) view on a romantic relationship is not for everybody and that there is no right way to date.
That said, Shancai still feels uncomfortable, so I still believe he should stop with it and then again, since I know she'll fall in love with him, what he does doesn't seem to bother her actually that much, also considering, that she never calls him out on evading her personal space and treating her like his possession, even if she is very outspoken in everything else she doesn't like.
Edit: after reading your replies I just want to say that most can distinguish between reality and fiction. However, dramas like this still promote and romantacizes behaviour like this, what I just cannot ignore.
I do like the story and I do like Si, but there is just not enough talk about how some of his behaviour should mostly not be tolerated in real life. We talk about it a lot in Social Media but why can it not be criticized in fiction?
and not You, I Love as in You and I and Love
I mean in the end it really makes no difference
Love @ seventeen
Suddenly seventeen
... honestly what is so great about 17. When I was that age it was pretty shit because they would view you as an adult but then again you were still a minor ....
... maybe that's the appeal?
but I am glad his behaviour changed. maybe I can now watch it.
someone tell me if there is a similar scene from the male lead after that. I can barely get around the bullying but if it gets this physical I need to stay morally correct and boycott this.
second of all, I already know it's going to take forever til it's subbed
third of all, I am also very sure this has a tragic ending