Is it lacking any music, scenes or other content on Netflix / streaming services?
Noticed these by chance: EP1: When Jang Hye Sung and Cha Kwan Woo first meet, she is playing a game on her phone. Netflix has the game blurred, but sound intact. EP4: Different background music in café around half an hour in. Right after, the court case has altered music, missing images, missing game, and so on. EP7: Same café, forty-something minutes in: some very faint background music swapped.
(in later episodes music in HOLLYS COFFEE doesn't seem switched out as much)
Could it be that watching it as a crime/thriller drama is why you didn't like it? I watched this as a fluffy "light" romcom drama, and enjoyed it more than expected. I wasn't looking for suspense or a mystery to unravel, so I did not even notice the absence of those elements.
Months ago, I picked out your review to revisit after watching the show, and now that I've finished we could not have watched more different dramas. I thought the first six or eight episodes were great, and I kept wondering when the "show turns super bad like people say", and that moment never came. For me, there was more than enough chemistry between the leads. Bae Suzy seemed to be a clone of Lee Hye Ri in Reply 1988 with many mannerisms, but otherwise I didn't have complaints. It was my first time with Park Hye Ryun and the four leads, outside of a few cameos or very minor roles, and a Lee Jong Suk movie (where I didn't like him) – so I didn't go into this as a fan or even familiar with anyone other than some of the omnipresent supporting actors.
I don't see it mentioned anywhere: the Director's Cut is materially different, for example in Ep 10/16, at 26:20 of the director's cut, the FL spends a whole time walking around a hospital room after talking to a nurse, which takes about 1m25s, while the 'normal' version skips ahead immediately to makeup product placement.
I don't know how many episodes are different, and I couldn't find any articles, lists, or many comments about it.
For me this was like 8 hours of content stretched to 16+ hours.Found a lot of the plotlines forced / tacked on…
The villains just keep coming one at time to pad the runtime. Checkboxes: let's break up, let's have a hospital episode, let's have a tragedy in the family, let's get the ML injured so the FL realizes she can't lose him, ...
Biggest omission for me: The ML/FL *never* have an actual conversation about Seo-yeon (Jung Seo Yun), who is so to speak the defining person in both of their lives. Not a single talk.
Second-biggest: there's no moment where the FL's sister Ha-kyung learns that the ML is also the boyfriend of the dead Seo-yeon.
The idiotic timeskip changes nothing. The same "oh, we spent some time apart, now let's be together forever" thing happens before and after the timeskip. I already stopped buying it before. The ML's mother only gets screentime to die right after. Towards the end, the ML's father started appearing more, so I thought he'd be next in line to be killed off for no reason. But no, it was so we could see him cut food for 30 seconds.
We never find out what's with the parents / family of the Yeo sisters.
For me this was like 8 hours of content stretched to 16+ hours. Found a lot of the plotlines forced / tacked on and eventually repetitive. There was nothing in this show that isn't familiar from other dramas. My favourite part were the comedy scenes centered around Yeo Ha-kyung in the early episodes (they don't happen that much later on).
Global Netflix removal on 2022-12-27. I don't know how much exactly is cut/removed/replaced on Netflix, but I only noticed rather minor things. For example, a very quiet background song during a car ride (that nobody reacts to) is replaced. Very few logos on clothes and some arcade video game screens are blurred out, usually only a few frames here and there. I think twice there's a movie in the background that is blurred out and its irrelevant audio is removed, but it's only very short. There's one or two more relevant sequences involving a movie and that does not seem to be altered in the Netflix version.
Is anything missing on Netflix, like licensed music? (I assume this isn't the show for actors singing, doing karaoke, and so on? Since that is cut or modified 95% of the time...)
For a lot of its runtime, it felt like a wannabe-Tarantino movie more than anything else. It's unfortunate that some crucial plot developments are left to the viewer's imagination. Besides a rather high level of graphic violence, the other thing that distinguishes it from your average Tarantino-inspired film is the at times extremely pretentious camerawork – the one year younger Memories of Murder does this much better.
The bog-standard English subtitles for this are terrible, they're missing crucial stuff. Decent subtitles will have a translation for the sticker on the wall a bit more than 4 minutes in, as well as something about the manifesto 11 minutes in. (Subtitles can be missing everything from background voices to the 'communicated thoughts' of the main character.)
Unfortunately, since you have a near same taste as I do, I can`t argue with that. It doesn`t help that I wasn`t…
ML's male side kick seemed to be interested in the Jung Nan Hee character (Cho Hye Jung), but then was randomly switched to pursuing the other friend Lee Sun Ok, as some "oh you can't be seen having a crush on someone chubbier" thing. IMO made worse by Cho Hye Jung being a thinner person who put on a bit of weight for the role.
Found the romance between the two doctors terrible too, like someone flipped a switch in him to like her too just as she called it quits, and then flipped another switch in her later to embrace his unconvincing affection.
Shi ho should have been the main lead. She is more interesting character. Such a waste of potential like Shi ho.
I have the polar opposite view in this regard: her entire character being cut out would have made it a less disjointed show for me.
She's way too old for the role and I would have been happy with the gymnasts staying 'the enemies' throughout the story, rather than awarding them some plight and sympathy.
I suppose watching Train, Mouse and this in quick succession gave me a substantial Kyung Soo Jin overdose too. Maybe that's part of it.
I've never seen a drama that was so universally ... second rate.
The casting wasn't good (in particular Kyung Soo Jin looking 35 when she's supposed to be 21, and Oh Eui Shik being "22" at the age of 33 — and NONE of the weightlifters looked like they could be weightlifters, and there was a huge lot of them).
The script was barely okay. Nothing in it that you haven't seen done better several times before, the Song Shi Ho character should have been cut out entirely, random side couple romances were thrown around left & right and mostly forgotten again. For that many hours of screentime, there were only few good jokes, and the unique things they had ('swag') were used inconsistently: forgotten in the middle, then shoved in again at the end as fan service.
Not even the production was good. From weird cuts to scenes with poorly placed details, Korea can do much better. The product placements of face cream (which FL would not possibly have/afford) and phone model (FL asking: "wow, is that the new colour?", and then the phone is BLACK) were particularly poor too.
It's possible that all this comes down to budget, maybe they couldn't afford top actors and staff? The script even mentions Song Joong Ki and Kim Soo Hyun by name, twice, and it feels like wishful thinking rather than a joke. In any case, a lack of money doesn't excuse that the FL of 50 kg or less plays a character based on a 80-100 kg real life athlete, and is constantly fake-shamed for her "abdominal obesity". The casting needs to match the script, or the script needs to match the actors.
tbh, I have watched the first two episodes and I am thinking of dropping it, but so many people are loving it,…
The first like four episodes are kind of bad, and after that it's relatively okay. In any case better than it initially is. (There's a bunch of kdramas where you have to "get over" the beginning, but I suppose usually it's ~2 episodes that are murky.)
As usual, Netflix has the cut version. Examples: - karaoke and clubbing scenes missing altogether (to be expected, since most of the times anyone sings in a drama, Netflix etc will have either the audio or the entire scene removed) - background music removed or replaced, including some BTS - FL's ringtone swapped out
Noticed these by chance:
EP1: When Jang Hye Sung and Cha Kwan Woo first meet, she is playing a game on her phone. Netflix has the game blurred, but sound intact.
EP4: Different background music in café around half an hour in. Right after, the court case has altered music, missing images, missing game, and so on.
EP7: Same café, forty-something minutes in: some very faint background music swapped.
(in later episodes music in HOLLYS COFFEE doesn't seem switched out as much)
I watched this as a fluffy "light" romcom drama, and enjoyed it more than expected. I wasn't looking for suspense or a mystery to unravel, so I did not even notice the absence of those elements.
For me, there was more than enough chemistry between the leads.
Bae Suzy seemed to be a clone of Lee Hye Ri in Reply 1988 with many mannerisms, but otherwise I didn't have complaints.
It was my first time with Park Hye Ryun and the four leads, outside of a few cameos or very minor roles, and a Lee Jong Suk movie (where I didn't like him) – so I didn't go into this as a fan or even familiar with anyone other than some of the omnipresent supporting actors.
I don't know how many episodes are different, and I couldn't find any articles, lists, or many comments about it.
Checkboxes: let's break up, let's have a hospital episode, let's have a tragedy in the family, let's get the ML injured so the FL realizes she can't lose him, ...
Biggest omission for me: The ML/FL *never* have an actual conversation about Seo-yeon (Jung Seo Yun), who is so to speak the defining person in both of their lives. Not a single talk.
Second-biggest: there's no moment where the FL's sister Ha-kyung learns that the ML is also the boyfriend of the dead Seo-yeon.
The idiotic timeskip changes nothing. The same "oh, we spent some time apart, now let's be together forever" thing happens before and after the timeskip. I already stopped buying it before.
The ML's mother only gets screentime to die right after. Towards the end, the ML's father started appearing more, so I thought he'd be next in line to be killed off for no reason. But no, it was so we could see him cut food for 30 seconds.
We never find out what's with the parents / family of the Yeo sisters.
Found a lot of the plotlines forced / tacked on and eventually repetitive.
There was nothing in this show that isn't familiar from other dramas.
My favourite part were the comedy scenes centered around Yeo Ha-kyung in the early episodes (they don't happen that much later on).
Positives: nothing I'd call a triangle.
I don't know how much exactly is cut/removed/replaced on Netflix, but I only noticed rather minor things.
For example, a very quiet background song during a car ride (that nobody reacts to) is replaced.
Very few logos on clothes and some arcade video game screens are blurred out, usually only a few frames here and there. I think twice there's a movie in the background that is blurred out and its irrelevant audio is removed, but it's only very short.
There's one or two more relevant sequences involving a movie and that does not seem to be altered in the Netflix version.
the anime: https://myanimelist.net/anime/53149/Gaiken_Shijou_Shugi
(I assume this isn't the show for actors singing, doing karaoke, and so on? Since that is cut or modified 95% of the time...)
It's unfortunate that some crucial plot developments are left to the viewer's imagination.
Besides a rather high level of graphic violence, the other thing that distinguishes it from your average Tarantino-inspired film is the at times extremely pretentious camerawork – the one year younger Memories of Murder does this much better.
The bog-standard English subtitles for this are terrible, they're missing crucial stuff.
Decent subtitles will have a translation for the sticker on the wall a bit more than 4 minutes in, as well as something about the manifesto 11 minutes in. (Subtitles can be missing everything from background voices to the 'communicated thoughts' of the main character.)
IMO made worse by Cho Hye Jung being a thinner person who put on a bit of weight for the role.
Found the romance between the two doctors terrible too, like someone flipped a switch in him to like her too just as she called it quits, and then flipped another switch in her later to embrace his unconvincing affection.
She's way too old for the role and I would have been happy with the gymnasts staying 'the enemies' throughout the story, rather than awarding them some plight and sympathy.
I suppose watching Train, Mouse and this in quick succession gave me a substantial Kyung Soo Jin overdose too. Maybe that's part of it.
The casting wasn't good (in particular Kyung Soo Jin looking 35 when she's supposed to be 21, and Oh Eui Shik being "22" at the age of 33 — and NONE of the weightlifters looked like they could be weightlifters, and there was a huge lot of them).
The script was barely okay. Nothing in it that you haven't seen done better several times before, the Song Shi Ho character should have been cut out entirely, random side couple romances were thrown around left & right and mostly forgotten again. For that many hours of screentime, there were only few good jokes, and the unique things they had ('swag') were used inconsistently: forgotten in the middle, then shoved in again at the end as fan service.
Not even the production was good. From weird cuts to scenes with poorly placed details, Korea can do much better. The product placements of face cream (which FL would not possibly have/afford) and phone model (FL asking: "wow, is that the new colour?", and then the phone is BLACK) were particularly poor too.
It's possible that all this comes down to budget, maybe they couldn't afford top actors and staff? The script even mentions Song Joong Ki and Kim Soo Hyun by name, twice, and it feels like wishful thinking rather than a joke.
In any case, a lack of money doesn't excuse that the FL of 50 kg or less plays a character based on a 80-100 kg real life athlete, and is constantly fake-shamed for her "abdominal obesity". The casting needs to match the script, or the script needs to match the actors.
(There's a bunch of kdramas where you have to "get over" the beginning, but I suppose usually it's ~2 episodes that are murky.)
- karaoke and clubbing scenes missing altogether (to be expected, since most of the times anyone sings in a drama, Netflix etc will have either the audio or the entire scene removed)
- background music removed or replaced, including some BTS
- FL's ringtone swapped out
- FL's ringtone swapped out
- karaoke and club scenes missing