A sixteen hours show with only about twelve hours of content. In the middle they run out of ideas for a long time and keep re-chewing the same supporting characters that weren't that fascinating to begin with.
There's a lot of "abuse & bullying is funny / forgivable", and likely more gay jokes and as many poop jokes as in all other shows of the last ten years combined. In some ways that makes it a very anachronistic experience. I suppose if one can view it entirely uncritically, the comedy is very funny most of the time.
The villain basically had a higher power level than any other character in the show (in terms of abilities & gadgets); maybe I've mellowed in that regard after heavily downrating Rugal for stuff like that.
I expected much better writing from this. I've seen this style of endemic corruption and the kind of "he's evil because he's evil" villain even in mediocre Cinderella cohabitation rom-coms.
Don't recall a single gag that was actually funny, either.
just a heads-up that Netflix is taking this off of the platform on the 21st, so if you'd like to watch it legally…
On Netflix, at least episode 4 is missing music at the start (replaced with something much more rock-y and less generic than Netflix usually use) and a song performance at the end. For both, peruse the usual not so legal streaming sites.
There's a very tiny amount of blurred out background posters etc.
Since I watched everything on Netflix besides the music scenes, I don't know what else might be missing/replaced in the NF version.
Unfortunately I thought the show had little plot, little point, and absolutely no conclusion. While there's a good lot of celebrity cameos, they virtually never serve a purpose.
For a show about a TV show's writing team, the screenwriting sacrifices a lot of logical consistency for (I guess) reacting to viewer demands – things constantly change, it's like you watch a different show from time to time. Sometimes plot arcs are turned into nonsense for comedic effect, too. Or topics are mentioned, followed up on, and then disappear entirely.
On Netflix or I guess other license international streaming services you will be missing out on: - Star Wars music (and other 'real' referential music) - a lot of random atmospheric music - music actually playing in the background in studios - the bulk of Kim Soo Hyun singing - some pointless comedy noises
Netflix cuts some unnecessary things, but I'd say there's a substantial hit from the loss of commercial music, maybe 1/3 as much as in any of the Reply series (where it's a REALLY big difference and sometimes half the screen is blurred out too).
However, Netflix has a intro that you otherwise don't get (characters getting on a bus together, which doesn't actually happen in the show since everybody drives their distinct largely sponsored cars).
Wha~ thank you so much for reading my messy long review. I didn't think anyone would read it before I finish all…
Ya, I am also not a fan of "we'll show you something, but the character is just imagining it, but we aren't saying that", or what Mouse does non stop, "here is something dramatic as a cliffhanger but it doesn't actually happen" – like when the male lead "kills" the second male lead, except he hits his own hand with a stone to avoid doing so (lol). Maybe it's just makjang filmmaking ^_^.
As a side note, IMO this is less of a culprit-hunt than Tunnel, Train, Beyond Evil, etc. To me the mystery here is more like in the same writer's Black, that it's about the entire sequence of events rather than discovering an individual identity, and also not about the quest to catch a particular bad guy.
Father Ko was threatened with the life of Han Kook, the abducted boy, and additionally had no interest in perpetuating…
Yes, that's a common trope. In every superhero show, the villain threatens to kill any specific person if he is stopped, so that the hero is "forced"... to effectively let the villain kill ten more people.
Btw, along the biblical terms of the show, one could say it was a necessary step to "save the ML's soul".
I wrote about Beyond Evil that "The plot is full of coincidences, people arriving in exactly the right moment,…
I wish in one of the last ~4 episodes there would have been a focus on having Jung Ba Reum explain everything to Ko Moo Chi and Oh Bong Yi himself, in the presence of Choi Hong Joo as the person behind most of the events of the last two thirds of the show. Telling your friends what you did when you were a different person, I suppose. Revealing it on TV seemed rather impersonal and put the focus on the OZ conspiracy too much.
Then again, K-drama etiquette in general seems to outlaw a murderous ML becoming an accepted 'good' character with a happy end.
I wrote about Beyond Evil that "The plot is full of coincidences, people arriving in exactly the right moment, and 'small world' relations to a degree that you'd think Munju is the secret second capital of South Korea. This may be seen as standard K-drama fare, in the sense that if you don't mind the protagonists in another drama forming a bond for life in a chance meeting when they're five years old that somehow destines them to fall in love 25 years later, it likely won't annoy you here."
After finishing Mouse, I spent more than 10h just thinking and re-watching different parts to look for matching details or clear up some specific questions I had. Drama life = hard life. ^_^
Yo-Han has a collage of Ba-Reum photos in his basement, is that what you mean?
Sung Yo Han takes pictures of Jung Ba Reum himself (1:02:13 into Ep18); maybe some are included in the picture stash that his only friend Kim Joon Seong gets by hacking into OZ servers (at his workplace). It's not clear because an hour into episode 18 you only see them assemble the collages of JBR's killings and not JBR & his home, and shortly afterwards you see him take one picture of JBR and then have the entire collage ready at 1:02:16.
There's a lot of "abuse & bullying is funny / forgivable", and likely more gay jokes and as many poop jokes as in all other shows of the last ten years combined. In some ways that makes it a very anachronistic experience. I suppose if one can view it entirely uncritically, the comedy is very funny most of the time.
The villain basically had a higher power level than any other character in the show (in terms of abilities & gadgets); maybe I've mellowed in that regard after heavily downrating Rugal for stuff like that.
Don't recall a single gag that was actually funny, either.
There's a very tiny amount of blurred out background posters etc.
Since I watched everything on Netflix besides the music scenes, I don't know what else might be missing/replaced in the NF version.
In a post from five years ago (further down), they also point out this scene missing from ep2: https://twitter.com/eArgonsubs/status/924321518728896512
(But yes, the family wasn't found in the end.)
While there's a good lot of celebrity cameos, they virtually never serve a purpose.
For a show about a TV show's writing team, the screenwriting sacrifices a lot of logical consistency for (I guess) reacting to viewer demands – things constantly change, it's like you watch a different show from time to time.
Sometimes plot arcs are turned into nonsense for comedic effect, too.
Or topics are mentioned, followed up on, and then disappear entirely.
- Star Wars music (and other 'real' referential music)
- a lot of random atmospheric music
- music actually playing in the background in studios
- the bulk of Kim Soo Hyun singing
- some pointless comedy noises
Netflix cuts some unnecessary things, but I'd say there's a substantial hit from the loss of commercial music, maybe 1/3 as much as in any of the Reply series (where it's a REALLY big difference and sometimes half the screen is blurred out too).
However, Netflix has a intro that you otherwise don't get (characters getting on a bus together, which doesn't actually happen in the show since everybody drives their distinct largely sponsored cars).
And yes, for https://kisskh.at/discussions/mouse/81465-spoilers-nonsense-or-really-far-fetched-coincidences and https://kisskh.at/discussions/mouse/81469-spoilers-open-questions-unresolved-matters I had to spend 5–10 hours rewatching and making sure it's logically consistent and I'm not missing things, and yet I also (irresponsibly :P) didn't go the extra mile of providing full citations of episode and timestamp for everything.
As a side note, IMO this is less of a culprit-hunt than Tunnel, Train, Beyond Evil, etc. To me the mystery here is more like in the same writer's Black, that it's about the entire sequence of events rather than discovering an individual identity, and also not about the quest to catch a particular bad guy.
Btw, along the biblical terms of the show, one could say it was a necessary step to "save the ML's soul".
Revealing it on TV seemed rather impersonal and put the focus on the OZ conspiracy too much.
Then again, K-drama etiquette in general seems to outlaw a murderous ML becoming an accepted 'good' character with a happy end.
For me this is just as over the top here, or maybe even more so: https://kisskh.at/discussions/mouse/81465-spoilers-nonsense-or-really-far-fetched-coincidences (warning: full spoilers!)
There's also some things I think were unanswered: https://kisskh.at/discussions/mouse/81469-spoilers-open-questions-unresolved-matters (again warning: full spoilers!)
After finishing Mouse, I spent more than 10h just thinking and re-watching different parts to look for matching details or clear up some specific questions I had.
Drama life = hard life. ^_^
However, if you tell me, I can move it up in priority and hopefully forget by the time I actually watch it :D