Regarding episode 9: Employments contracts with no base salary are a recipe for exploitation. The fact that Yullim's…
I don't necessarily look at it that way. A performance based salary is prized by high performing people, because they make more. And big companies are breeding grounds for lazy and low performing people who can easily hide their lack of competence and work ethic behind their many coworkers, who end up each picking up the slack for them. I have seen many such cases. Is a company required to pay employees who don't carry their own weight? But maybe I have the wrong perspective, what makes you say it is a recipe for exploitation?
They did mention the rock only mildly concussed her so it's plausible that she woke up and was aware enough to…
Yess!!! The painting case seemed extremely farfetched and not properly explained to me as well. Especially since she had used fluorescent paint to hide her father's face in it, so how did the other artist know that she had used that kind of paint and then used it as well for his painting? You can't see the difference with the naked eye, you only notice it's fluorescent paint when you expose it to blacklight.
So, some people find euthanasia disgusting, but I wonder why. 🧐
I think it might be different reasons for different people. For religious people it's the fact that they consider suicide a sin, as life is given from God and people have no right to end their own lives. For other people I think it's a fear of the slippery slope, we see that it's starting to be used for other reasons, like there was a woman a few months ago I think who was perfectly healthy but she was depressed and she chose assisted suicide. So, promoting euthanasia for cases other than terminal ilnesses kind of goes against the whole message we've been giving people with suicidal ideations: "Don't choose a permanent solution for a temporary problem" And then there's also the argument that it can very easily be used maliciously. Like for example, in the case we had in the series, we see that the woman herself wanted to die, and the husband was only adhering to her wishes. But there could easily be cases of people with dementia and alzheimers who have no idea what they're doing and they're pushed to do it by greedy relatives who want the inheritance. So, I think it's a pretty dicey issue.
I will watch this drama since it looks really good but I don't think I am going to watch Lee Jin Uk dramas in…
So, basically your moral code is: I condemn rape, except if the tv series is really good? :))))) What is it with all you people feeling the need to let everyone know what you will and will not watch? No one cares what you watch or don't, you don't need to announce it, so if you really have so much vitriol for this guy, go to a gossip website, feel superior about your "morals" over there, there's no need to constantly try to mix his work with his personal life. We get it, you really want to destroy his career, but some of us here don't care about your obsessions and would actually just like to talk about the show.
We can still support WOMEN without making it a gender thing.
This seriously feels like a gossip website right now. I'm honestly so tired of this subject, it's not just nasty towards Lee Jin Uk but also disrespectful towards all of his castmates. There are a lot of people who worked on that show, and instead of enjoying the results of their work and have people talk about that, they have to consistently have discussion forums taken over by debates about allegations that have happened 9 freakin years ago and have already been settled in the court of law and have been heavily reported on and discussed in the media at the time.
@Yearn and yap, I think it's ill advised to comment on cases that you haven't looked into personally, and don't know much about, and fill the missing gaps with generalities or personal experiences from your country, which has nothing to do with the country in case here. A lot of the people commenting on this have looked into it a lot more, so from the point of view of the actual case they are a lot better informed than you.
At the same time, @ManiChan, although I do agree with your opinion, and I understand the anger at a man being falsely accused and having poison spat at him continuously for 9 years because of false allegations, I think the point can be made better. You seem to know the case quite well, I'm sure you can explain it in a much more chill manner, especially considering that the person commenting in this case doesn't seem to be a rabbid nasty person like some of the other posters, it just seems to me like a pretty reasonable person who doesn't know the actual case and commented according to personal biases and experiences.
You're no better, labelling people as such when it has been proven as false in court is criminal.I hope they sue…
Yes, it's very obvious you wish you could hurt this guy. This is why you are posting irrelevant comments all over the place isn't it? To poison everything related to this actor's work with this nonsense. How empty of anything good must your life be to behave this way?
Oh Lord, not this again. Do you people have nothing better to do than to gossip about nonsense all day long? There…
No worries, apology accepted😉 I'm glad that you've seen the error of your ways. Your high morals, along with your high horse and incessant need to gossip will be missed, but we understand, you need to be with your own people.
i really wanted to watch this, but the ml disgusts me i cant believe how normalised he is in the industry
Oh Lord, not this again. Do you people have nothing better to do than to gossip about nonsense all day long? There are gossip forums for that, people here actually want to talk about the show, no one is interested in your 2 cents about the personal life of a man you've never met.
yeah I saw those comments and quickly blocked them. Sigh.
According to Pew Research, 83 countries have a draft program, 60 actively recruiting, and 23, not currently recruiting, but the regsitrations are still being done.
yeah I saw those comments and quickly blocked them. Sigh.
The first link, it's an organization that has been active for less than 2 years, and it was literally started because of a supreme court case in Texas, that aimed to require women to enlist in the draft, same as men. So, I guess, thank you for making my point for me. When they're faced with the possibility of actual equality and having to be forced to enlist, feminists suddenly care about the draft. If you want to do some research, look into the white feather girls while you're at it. I'm not saying that there aren't women who are against men being targeted for the draft in an unequal way, but it's never been the main part of the feminist movement or platform.
yeah I saw those comments and quickly blocked them. Sigh.
I understand your perspective, but again, they could have just used the word equality. And while I do think they did some good things, and they worked to address some of the problems with women's rights, they were never for equality. They complained about not having the right to vote, although most men at the time did not have the right to vote either (for example, in the UK, men got the universal right to vote only 10 years before women did. Before that a very limited number of men could vote.) And in most countries men are either automatically registered for the draft or have a legal duty to sign up. Women have never been obligated to do that, they have never been forced to go to war, and feminists were oddly quiet on that, it seems they didn't want equality when it came to actually risking life and limb. Even nowadays, feminists complain about lower salaries, but you don't hear a squeak about the inequalities men face at work, like the fact that over 90% of workplace deaths and accidents are male. So, no, I don't think feminism is about equality, and it never has been.
I wish we had seen more of the prosecution's case though, we didn't even really get a fight so to speak. They…
Yeah, it would be nice if some of the cases were a bit more fleshed out. Cause today's case was quite interesting, and it presented complex moral issues, it would have been nice to see a bit more of it.
It doesn't feel feminist to me. Yes, you have men portrayed as villains, but there are just as many women shown…
The crazy mother presumably lost her case, and she got destroyed in front of the whole court for being a rubbish mother, which was the most important thing in the world for her, the FL has banned her mother from visiting her, and the mother in law's family has financial problems, from what the second FL was saying, and she got dragged out of the building and had the police called on her. And if you want to talk punishment, the creepy guy in episode 6 never got any punishment despite scarring that woman for life and effectively ending her modelling career. If you want an exactly equal percentage of villains and an exactly equal percentage of punishment, I have some bad news for you buddy. Life doesn't work that way, so quit whining.
Okay now I am disgusted by this show - the non guilty verdict wasnt enough? now Fl and her friends watch the video…
I agree, they should have looked at the photos of her battered up face and fractured rib that took 7 weeks to heal, and laughed at that... If my sister had been abused and beaten up like that for years, you bet I would have laughed watching her give the bastard some of his own medicine. Also, did you miss the part where the sister's laughter turned into crying? Did it look to you like they were taking it lightly?
But maybe I have the wrong perspective, what makes you say it is a recipe for exploitation?
For other people I think it's a fear of the slippery slope, we see that it's starting to be used for other reasons, like there was a woman a few months ago I think who was perfectly healthy but she was depressed and she chose assisted suicide. So, promoting euthanasia for cases other than terminal ilnesses kind of goes against the whole message we've been giving people with suicidal ideations: "Don't choose a permanent solution for a temporary problem"
And then there's also the argument that it can very easily be used maliciously. Like for example, in the case we had in the series, we see that the woman herself wanted to die, and the husband was only adhering to her wishes. But there could easily be cases of people with dementia and alzheimers who have no idea what they're doing and they're pushed to do it by greedy relatives who want the inheritance. So, I think it's a pretty dicey issue.
What is it with all you people feeling the need to let everyone know what you will and will not watch? No one cares what you watch or don't, you don't need to announce it, so if you really have so much vitriol for this guy, go to a gossip website, feel superior about your "morals" over there, there's no need to constantly try to mix his work with his personal life. We get it, you really want to destroy his career, but some of us here don't care about your obsessions and would actually just like to talk about the show.
@Yearn and yap, I think it's ill advised to comment on cases that you haven't looked into personally, and don't know much about, and fill the missing gaps with generalities or personal experiences from your country, which has nothing to do with the country in case here. A lot of the people commenting on this have looked into it a lot more, so from the point of view of the actual case they are a lot better informed than you.
At the same time, @ManiChan, although I do agree with your opinion, and I understand the anger at a man being falsely accused and having poison spat at him continuously for 9 years because of false allegations, I think the point can be made better. You seem to know the case quite well, I'm sure you can explain it in a much more chill manner, especially considering that the person commenting in this case doesn't seem to be a rabbid nasty person like some of the other posters, it just seems to me like a pretty reasonable person who doesn't know the actual case and commented according to personal biases and experiences.
I'm glad that you've seen the error of your ways. Your high morals, along with your high horse and incessant need to gossip will be missed, but we understand, you need to be with your own people.
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2019/04/23/fewer-than-a-third-of-countries-currently-have-a-military-draft-most-exclude-women/
I don't know where you are from, I was replying to the links you gave me, which are all regarding the US.
If you want to do some research, look into the white feather girls while you're at it.
I'm not saying that there aren't women who are against men being targeted for the draft in an unequal way, but it's never been the main part of the feminist movement or platform.
And in most countries men are either automatically registered for the draft or have a legal duty to sign up. Women have never been obligated to do that, they have never been forced to go to war, and feminists were oddly quiet on that, it seems they didn't want equality when it came to actually risking life and limb. Even nowadays, feminists complain about lower salaries, but you don't hear a squeak about the inequalities men face at work, like the fact that over 90% of workplace deaths and accidents are male. So, no, I don't think feminism is about equality, and it never has been.
If my sister had been abused and beaten up like that for years, you bet I would have laughed watching her give the bastard some of his own medicine. Also, did you miss the part where the sister's laughter turned into crying? Did it look to you like they were taking it lightly?