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Im sorry, i wrote it on my phone, my native language is german so i think the autocorrection has changed it. You are right im curios why you find it absurd

Can you explain way? I liked ir, so im curious

i agree, the subtitles are sometimes bad translated by using a word in english, that has another sense then meant in original.

OMG i didnt recognised that th ML is chimon.

Dont know what to say. on one hand it had potential, but on the other hand the plot is coufusing and mostly you dont understand what happened. Have the 3 men killed Phaka? Why did loy and Kaew came back. What was wiht the trans Character, first his mother hates him and violated him and next time we see the two and the trans character praise his mom for her love

Absolutly confusing and not logical

Im Lawjer in my Country and Said that he is an aushole, but more for the behaviour with the pregnant Woman but has Not Break the law sine lege nulla poena. And as a law Student, you should know that the law in Thailand has to be used here. The Problem of your pov is that You See adolescents as children and then out of nowhere you declare them with the 18 Birthday to adults. This is Not ok, necause we believe in my Country also children have rights to develop also their Sexuality. Immoral is it as promiscutive man Auskunft a Minor for unsafe sex,

In My Country, it isn’t if consentual at legal age 16. And in Thailand, Legal age for consentual is 15. So if you don’t know the Law in other Countries Don’t laugh about the People Who give use the Information.

you cant go in Jail, if you dont break the law.. sure he is an Asshole, but this is not a reason to wish him jail.you should have better feeling of justice

you dont know which plattform Ta_Da use to watch it, so my answer could be helpful it she look it at viki

and because we dont know which plattform is used, i added this information,

i just wondering if there be a fantasy part about eternala love or something. They show scenes from a cave with a woman, which a dont understand

If you look it on Viki ep 4 is airing today

Pond is a great actor, it was a pity that in Fourever You the Story between him and Earth was so bad written, long and with non depth.

Jackson changed the ending of Lord of the rings and most Readers of the books are upset with it. But most also admit that Lord of the ring is a good film adaption. and you can critisize Jackson for more. And dont get me wrong, you have the right to be upset. But i think there is no right to claim accuasations like straightwashing or else. This is not ok. And i see many who dont respect the rights of the director or writers. In my country we speak about the Fundamental right to artistic freedom and many of the people here disrespect this

Reason why i like Nut

Since many here don't like Nut, see him as a Red Flag or hate him, I would like to explain here my view of why I think he is lovable and why he deserves happiness in life.

First of all, you shouldn't accuse him of the carelessness of the script, I read somewhere that they forgot to show a time jump, it wasn't like Tofu died and immediately revived the relationship with Tarn, that probably took months to a year, which is understandable. Tarn was in a coma for months. And the sentence that he missed him doesn't mean that the relationship is yet back.

Furthermore, you have to consider that we were only half informed by the flashbacks of the entire series and that false impressions were constantly implanted in us, which were later relativized again in another flashback.

If you list chronologically, then there is already a picture. Nut is born into a happy family, especially the photos in the family album show that Sib loves Nut and is proud of his son.

As Nut grows taller, there are Sib's first disturbing actions, the tearing up of the drawing of the rainbow, the burning of the paper figures because it is too feminine.

I suspect that Sib was already afraid that Nut was not his child, but Saen's. Saen cared more about Na und Nut than about his own wife.

In addition, even today it is still difficult to determine them with certainty when identical twins are considered fathers, at that time it was not possible even with DNA analysis. There was no way for him to resolve his doubts, which led to them becoming ever stronger.

Nut senses the rejection and hopes for his mother, but she refuses any help.

He feels guilty and unloved because of his feelings for boys. At one point his father even calls him a bastard, the parents are completely incapable of dealing with Nut, the father only reacts with severity and tries to determine Nut's life in every aspect.

In the process, sib completely loses control that he even punches and kicks Nut, here you can only guess that this was probably not an isolated case.

First of all, Nut has to change schools, although there was no reason at all. We learn little about it, but in the end it means the loss of all his former school friends.

Through the friendship and later relationship with Tarn, he then lives in 2 worlds, the one in which he is accepted as he is and the other in which he tries to push him into something he is not with expectations and demands.

After he has been able to lead this double life unnoticed for a long time, he is then busted with Tarn, the director catches them kissing and they are caught twice by their father.

And in this situation, he then decides for the family, he breaks with tarn and tries to be a boy who lives up to expectations. In return for not being gay, he does not need to go to the military academy and is allowed to study what he likes.

But whichever way you look at it, he sacrificed himself for the family and that will continue.
This is an often observed phenomenon in family matters, that children then want to fight for the denied affection and love with loyal behavior. (I studied law and also work as a lawyer in family disputes).

We then learn little about his time as a student, except that he moves into a dormitory. In any case, he seems to behave as desired, has no connections and does nothing that could attract the father's indignation.

Then the father dies, the mother becomes mentally ill. Nut then tries to shed the past by changing his surroundings and moving into the new house. But he doesn't let the mother down and takes her to the new house and takes care of her, buys her things, Keungcha and tries to help her wherever he can.

But Na is no longer in reality, she loves her son as he is, but is unable to say or show it.
And when she shows it, as she did by cooking the lunchbox every day, it is a bad memory for Nut, because she always tried to sit out conflicts and arguments by asking for something to eat.
Several things come together here, at first Nut is completely overwhelmed. He has isolated himself and has no friends except his work colleagues, he no longer feels love for others and probably doesn't feel loved by anyone.

The care of his mother exceeds his strength, he becomes easily irritable and in the end only scolds her, even in trivial matters.

Na, if certainly due to illness, tramples on his feelings. Nut must have loved his father, otherwise he would have fled long ago before his death.

Now to see his mother living in an illusory world where her husband and Nut's father is Saen must be an ordeal for him.

He is in a dilemma, on the one hand he wants to be there for his mother, on the other hand he can't bear that his mother never has a good word for him and denies his.

That's why he's so quickly irritated, through all the years and certainly many attempts to turn something around for the better, he just can't do it anymore, which then leads to him freaking out even over small things.

After that, he is always sorry, and he wants to do better next time and fails again and feels unloved, misunderstood and ultimately incapable. This cycle between mistake, remorse, improvement and next mistake, fail makes him a highly unhappy person. But he wants to function and cannot escape this cycle.

This is the situation in which tofu enters his life. His naïve and innocent nature moves something in Nut, but only very slowly and at first hardly noticeably.
But you can tell how much he suffers when Tofu shows understanding in the conversation after Nut has beaten him up and is the first to acknowledge it ever, what situation Nut is in, how many scars rest on his soul and how overwhelmed he is.

Please don't get me wrong, that doesn't justify his outbursts of anger, but humans are not machines. Over the years, Nut has ultimately been turned into a mental wreck.

Although he sacrifices himself for others, he does not experience gratitude, respect or recognition from anyone, I imagine that is terrible.

What is particularly problematic here is that Na has forgotten how to speak at all. For example, when Nut reveals the love between him and Tofu, she doesn't say a word, which provokes Nut so much that he starts flirting with Tofu in front of her and kissing him in order to simply provoke a reaction, which Na is incapable of and then continues to make him believe that the silence would mean rejection and that they will continue to not accept him as the one that he is.

That's also the case in Chiang Mai, instead of countering Jan and saying how happy she is with Nut and Tofu and loves them both, she is silent again and Nut has to defend himself again.
At first I also asked myself why he didn't at least have the courage to seek out Tarn after the death of his father. Or why Tarn only tried to visit him after his return from Japan.

I think Tarn was waiting for him because he knew that Nut wasn't ready, but was trapped in loyalty to his family, who wouldn't accept him as gay. And Nut himself has given it up because he feels guilty for having left him for the good of the family.

The series particularly touched me in 2 points, on the one hand, like Song, I had to experience that my older brother died young in a traffic accident. On the other hand, like Nut, I denied myself for years for fear of disappointing expectations. My parents were not so much the problem but my best friend at the time, with whom I was in love and last but not least, I tortured myself because I didn't accept myself and felt irrationally guilty because I couldn't give my parents what they hoped for (didn't demand) and I always thought to myself, if only my brother could still live and relieve me of this burden.

That's why I feel so much for him. Nut is a highly sensitive person who has been downright broken in a hostile environment, who has always tried to prove his worth to his family, but has never received a word of recognition from family or friends.

I also think it's good that the story doesn't get cheesy and pretends that after the first kiss of Tofu everything is fine and Nut changes from one day to the next. This is a process that, as the story is told, always brings relapses, such as the scolding when it turns out that she forgot the visit of Tarn and that he gave the book as a gift. Or when she didn't turn off the stove and caused a fire.

Nut was under such indescribable pressure that the boiler exploded again and again. Only tofu was able to slowly but steadily take the pressure off him, because he was the first to understand him.
Not in vain he says after the song at the coffin, how am I supposed to get through everything without you. Tofu was the support and love of his life. What he once expressed through the sentence, through Tarn I got to know the world, through tofu the beauty of the world.

That's why I love Nut despite all his flaws, because I just think he deserves to be happy. You can't blame him for the problematic further development from the degradation of tofu from human back to a teddy bear, the script screwed up.

even worse, they gave him a horror experience, witnessing the murder of his love. I don't even dare to imagine what kind of images nut has in his head in many moments of his further life. And the constant reproach, why didn't I forbid him to go to Jan.

I feel so sorry for him that I also begrudge him that he can process Tofu's death in some way and have a happy relationship with Tarn.

Because what else is left for us humans, suicide? Depression or ones like Na, no we have to go further and at the same time keep our loved ones in our hearts and in our memories. And I have no doubt, that Nut is going this way, he had suffered so much in his young life, he deserve some happiness

well said, but i disagree wiht the idea of Hallucination. Nut is such a mental wreck, he couldnt heal him self just with halluzination. He needed a real friend who is on his side and see his efforrts. i wrote my views about nuts in a comment, earlier, i copy it here

it could be better, but the scenes are not well cut. the character dont act contradictory, the mood changes to fast an easy

How could they manage such a portrait. They arent a ship, so you cannot think about improvised Fanservice. It is an abusive behaviour and therefor people should not need Note or explanation

why you need a calling out for this? Just because it is not said, its no glorifeing oder normalizing. If you read a crime thriller you also dont need a calling out.

First i liked the show, It doesn't matter if you're queer; if you didn't like the show, then that's just how it is. But for me, it's too heavily focused on the straight couple. I didn't think that was so bad. In fact, it made sense because Hesuu realized he had to let go of his dream. My problem is that it creates the impression that it's not okay to interpret a text or manwa. Just as you can turn Romeo and Juliet into Romeo and Julius, you can do it differently without causing outrage.