milusia

Sorry if what I wrote sounded like I'm putting words in your mouth, I was just trying to understand your meaning. But first of all, we don't know if he is or isn't neurodivergent. But that's not really the point. The point is kind of what I wrote above in my last comment to Hi Bye. I don't negate the complexity of love, nor that it can be different things to different people. What I'm saying is, we clearly see that whatever they have between them now is not sustainable in its current form, because it's hurting both of them. And I really believe the only way forward will require at least a degree of change from Hira, mostly regarding his self-perception. And what I meant in my initial comment, that maybe came out a bit poorly, is that I was hoping to see that in this series, since it's been a while since they got together. But I don't think there has been any change in that regard when it comes to Hira. I'm not saying he doesn't love Kiyoi (I don't think I said it anywhere), I'm just saying the obsession is stronger at this point, and it's getting in the way of love they have for each other.

But my point is, he doesn't seem to be heading in that direction. For me it looks like being with Kiyoi hasn't changed anything when it comes to Hira's opinion of himself. I'm worried that he's not willing to love himself more, because he's content seeing himself as below Kiyoi. This dynamic of worship and idolisation requires one person to be lower than the other, and I think if he doesn't put that mindset behind, there is no way he can start seeing himself as equal, or as worth anything. I agree that understanding Kiyoi would have to be proceeded by Hira's change in self-perception, I'm just not sure how it's possible at this point.

If treating someone as God and a shining star above other humans is not dehumanising, I don't know what is.
And I don't necessarily agree that Hira understands Kiyoi either, episode 3 clearly showed that Kiyoi's feelings regarding their relationship are beyond Hira's understanding.

First of all, I am not expecting Hira to change his personality. I would only like for him to start seeing Kiyoi as a human being, as opposed to a god. And while we're at it, seeing himself as a human being would be great, too.
Second of all, I have a huge issue with expecting Kiyoi to be the one to grow and accept Hira as he is, because this series shows it so clearly that the way Hira treats Kiyoi is very hurtful and dehumanising. I don't think it's Kiyoi's responsibility to accept it and move on because "that's just the way Hira is". His feelings are just as valid, and if there is any future for that relationship, they need to meet halfway, and I feel like it's only Kiyoi who's been trying to do that.

So, what you're saying is, because he might be on a spectrum, it's ok that his relationship is still more about obsession rather than actual love? Being neurodivergent doesn't mean he can only be capable of that one kind of attachment. It doesn't mean his feelings cannot evolve into anything else. If they really can't, that's also fine, but in that case we shouldn't pretend it's romantic, because it's obvious from this season that the way he treats Kiyoi as an idol and god is hurtful and dehumanising to him.

I don't know... I'm kind of disappointed, I guess? If I understood the timeline correctly, their relationship is actually no longer new (Hira's a senior, and I think by the end of the previous series he just started uni?) and yet it seems like there has been zero character development on his part. It feels like nothing changed, even though their relationship has been going on for quite a while. I could understand his behaviour before, when Hira was worshiping Kiyoi from afar, but once they got together something really should've changed. I don't understand how it is possible to live with someone under one roof, see them in every kind of situation there is, good and bad, and still idolise them to this extent.

I really liked the transition from youthful and pure series to the grown-up and messy movie. It somehow fit the journey of the characters, I think. I am normally very annoyed with people making stupid decisions, for whatever reason - you don't have to be perfect but don't be an idiot. But somehow I was able to sympathise with Nagisa, despite his very poor life choices. Maybe because they led him to this very specific time and place and he wouldnt've been able to get there any other way? I don't know. He was very much in his head with everything he did in the series, but as a kid his decisions were of much smaller consequence. It kind of makes sense that he didn't suddenly become a wise adult, but continued to mess up, this time on a more "adult" scale.

I feel robbed of any positive emotion I might've had before watching this. Was I stupid, thinking until the very end that it would end differently? Was it really just me? I'm sorry, but this ending was not hopeful for me, it was depressing to think they would be stuck in this endless cycle of pain and impossible choices.

I did not sign up for this hearbreak ;( The Lee Yoon Woo storyline hit a bit too close to home... This was supposed to be a light, relaxing watch, and I've been crying for the past two episodes...

Let me know what you think about it, once you do!

I would like to issue a formal apology for disrespecting this series when I first read the synopsis, it was so outlandish I never would've given it a second look if it weren't for an accidental youtube clip... This story is so wholesome and warm and pure, I am literally crying just thinking about it. It's like a cozy blanket of good feelings cuddling you on a bad day, like a ray of sunshine on your face early in the morning, like... I mean, you get the point. It's the most unproblematic of faves and I'm loving every minute of it.
And yes, we could focus on the very obvious almost-kisses, but also maybe we could just not? I mean, they kind of fit the vibe of the series; the shy, insecure tiny feelings blooming slowly and quietly between Adachi and Kurosawa. Would I prefer to see them actually kiss? Sure. But I'm choosing to not be bothered by it and accept it instead. I mean, some of the looks and touches they exchange are more loaded with emotions than most of the kisses we get to see in other series.

Damn it, I was so intrigued about this series from the description, and then I watched the trailer and was confused, and now it turns out I heard it right :/// If it's really this debatable on the age front, I'm not sure I want to watch it anymore...