I'm sorry I can't see what everyone else sees in this drama. The plot is all over the place, the pacing…
*just tuning up to let you know that thought-out critique is appreciated and not everyone reads only first sentence and gets defensive because someone dares to say something negative*
I dropped this show some time ago, but still read comments to see whether there's anything worth coming back and fastforwarding. At first I was enthusiastic enough to watch it raw or half-subbed, but soon started to skip one filler plotline at time, which by episode 9 left me with maybe 10 minutes of screentime devoted to two main characters per episode. Maybe less. So whenever that person who wrote below that all those counterparts will fall into their respective places eventually and settle like a broken kaleidoscope feels like enlightening the rest of us, I'm ready for any wall of text.
For now I see this mess as a consequence of two choices: 1. not to delve into generic chaebol family drama by finishing mysterious harasser plotline really fast, 2. for once saving everyone from having a SLS on Ji Soo by making his characters useless and unlikeable (cutting some of love triangle angst with it). That's a feat. Both choices were commendable and it worked in both cases, just backfired. They could result in all this you mentioned and more, but were swallowed by fillers which in some cases fail to bring even comic relief.
Bonus poll time: which of the following Hyung Shik's drama had the lowest quality overall despite him having a well written character delivered with charisma and a variety of quirks?
a. High Society
b. Hwarang
c. SWDBS
Pick one.
I loved the cinematography in this! Really beautiful costumes as well. I've previously seen 3 different adaptations…
That's a peculiar ending and it's not faithful to the book nor to the other adaptations. But the thing is, the whole movie devoted much more screentime to Valmont than it did to marquise de Merteuil, it pushed the balance to his and Madame de Tourvel's side of the story. Marquise barely got any closure at all, let alone the original one, while Madame de Tourvel got one (being a teacher; even here she comes first in cast list!). It's a pity, because her false reputation was such a huge part of her persona, so without shattering it in the end, it feels somehow empty. That version took many liberties, but that one is the hardest to swallow for me. I still liked the first part. I think the energy of the main pair was captured well, this sense of idleness and corruption, something feline.
/For the record, I remembered that Forman's version doesn't have a public humiliation scene neither. Cecile marries the old guy anyway, marquise watches it from behind (a little down from Valmont's death), as does chevalier Danceny (disspassionately, flirting and laughing with some random girls).
I still think they are. It's not definitive she has this terminal illness mentioned at the beginning, just some stomach hurt that requires an operation. Doctor was too suprised to see her at the hospital and even at the meeting he seemed clueless.
Need to rewatch the trailer.
You guys mentioned there's little screentime devoted to Saimdang being an artist and too much of usual nonsense.…
Sorry. By nonsense I meant all that mother in law side eyeing her modern self when she innocently does some translation side by side with her handsome younger colleauge (former student?) and making her scenes, jealous rival doing her silly plots to separate her and her fiance, her husband... everything that could have happened in every other modern makjang/family drama and/or historical drama with palace intrigues without a need of using a name of a famous artist.
I'm looking forward to further episodes then.
I like it so far. The plot moves forward without prolonged misunderstandings, we aren't hanging for episodes wanting for someone to get finally recognized or an unconvincing gender-bender to be revealed. Even within this whole Monte Cristo frame, it's not overly dramatic. Families interact naturally. Two female leads have a friendly relationship from before they knew the male lead and more topics to discuss than just him. No cruel step mothers or cotrolling parents, no jealous, plotting rivals, no characters self-pitying or whining because of their descent or social standing. It seems very casual for a sageuk. It makes a good background for exceptions.
I never expected to write this, but now I pity Eun Hee for falling for Jung Hee. Can he get any wormier? Even she deserves better (but getting professional help goes first).
/but I can't hate him in 100%. In his own wormy way he does exactly what Jae Bok adviced to that woman who wanted to divorce her husband at the beginning: doesn't run away, but tries to persevere and take as much advantage as possible in his circumstances. A reparation for stalking induced trauma and all that's happening now you may say. And I don't hear any hate for that woman.
but i really hope that bong goo is just being a kind hearted & doesnt actually like her... plz dont ruin their…
that would be a twist. I only considered extremes so far: either he likes her enough to stop being a gigolo, or likes money and position more, so he'll betray her royally. Or some tangled combination of both (that's most likely).
hey, it's not that bad. At least there's no gigantic retrospection sprawling over 3/4 of the drama nor Arsene Lupin walking through a night in a shiny, noisy suit like in Iljimae.
You guys mentioned there's little screentime devoted to Saimdang being an artist and too much of usual nonsense. Is it still valid? I'm stuck at ep 5 for weeks and looking for some encouragement to continue.
Boy, the publisher guy is an a-hole! It doesn't truly make sense for a famed author that he's been feeding…
right? he must be filthy rich to have a house like this, why is he treated this way? Shouldn't he be more independent? Part of me enjoys seeing a MC to actually work and not just pose as a writter, but it seems off he has so many meaningless articles to write and deadlines to meet... But it echoes the pastline of the girl spurring him to write something meaningful nicely.
I'm annoyed by the heroine too and I hope we won't be hanging on this Subway love story revelation for weeks... Or whatever they shared back then. She's not bad generally speaking, but whenever she opens her mouth next to him, I cringe. She always says exactly the things to be misunderstood, with that fake innocent act. And I get it show-wise, but don't like her as a person. It makes her look dumb.
By the way, I think the dog was dead from the very beginning and just resurrected by this ghostly thing that animates the typewriter.
I don't come here often, is it normal for comments to get deleted sometimes? I was in a conversation here…
I know what you mean. When the OP deletes the mother-post, all responses disappear too. /or so I think? I remember seeing [deleted] lines somewhere here... but sometimes there's a conversation left, when some responses are deleted and the original flow is disturbed. You can check it by deleting your mother-comment.
I dropped this show some time ago, but still read comments to see whether there's anything worth coming back and fastforwarding. At first I was enthusiastic enough to watch it raw or half-subbed, but soon started to skip one filler plotline at time, which by episode 9 left me with maybe 10 minutes of screentime devoted to two main characters per episode. Maybe less. So whenever that person who wrote below that all those counterparts will fall into their respective places eventually and settle like a broken kaleidoscope feels like enlightening the rest of us, I'm ready for any wall of text.
For now I see this mess as a consequence of two choices: 1. not to delve into generic chaebol family drama by finishing mysterious harasser plotline really fast, 2. for once saving everyone from having a SLS on Ji Soo by making his characters useless and unlikeable (cutting some of love triangle angst with it). That's a feat. Both choices were commendable and it worked in both cases, just backfired. They could result in all this you mentioned and more, but were swallowed by fillers which in some cases fail to bring even comic relief.
Bonus poll time: which of the following Hyung Shik's drama had the lowest quality overall despite him having a well written character delivered with charisma and a variety of quirks?
a. High Society
b. Hwarang
c. SWDBS
Pick one.
I told you so.
I still liked the first part. I think the energy of the main pair was captured well, this sense of idleness and corruption, something feline.
/For the record, I remembered that Forman's version doesn't have a public humiliation scene neither. Cecile marries the old guy anyway, marquise watches it from behind (a little down from Valmont's death), as does chevalier Danceny (disspassionately, flirting and laughing with some random girls).
Need to rewatch the trailer.
I'm looking forward to further episodes then.
/but I can't hate him in 100%. In his own wormy way he does exactly what Jae Bok adviced to that woman who wanted to divorce her husband at the beginning: doesn't run away, but tries to persevere and take as much advantage as possible in his circumstances. A reparation for stalking induced trauma and all that's happening now you may say. And I don't hear any hate for that woman.
I'm annoyed by the heroine too and I hope we won't be hanging on this Subway love story revelation for weeks... Or whatever they shared back then. She's not bad generally speaking, but whenever she opens her mouth next to him, I cringe. She always says exactly the things to be misunderstood, with that fake innocent act. And I get it show-wise, but don't like her as a person. It makes her look dumb.
By the way, I think the dog was dead from the very beginning and just resurrected by this ghostly thing that animates the typewriter.
/which haircut do you hate?