Let me spell out why this drama failed. Dilraba was fine when she was flirting as a anle but she went back to…
There is not a single point in there that is either right (proven by public opinion) or I agree with. Why don't we break down exactly why:
"Let me spell out why this drama failed."- Exactly where did it fail? In case you didn't know, 8/10 is an actually good score. On YouKu, it kept a popularity of 10,000 for 20 days, and that's out of the 25 days it aired, which is genuinely impressive. It's been in the top 5 most popular drama in China, along with holding the most popular drama role for a while. So where is it exactly failing?
"her usual acting style of looking at the invisible wall"- That was the style of her characters, not her acting style. Are you dense? Ziyuan is usually calm and collected, with not many able to read her thoughts. This can only be portrayed in an acting style of "looking at the invisible wall".
"She is barely an actor with that style."- Her multiple awards for actor of the year says otherwise, and those are for the roles where her acting style was like ""looking at the invisible wall" because those characters require actual braincells to comprehend the characters and not just looking at what's in front of you.
"She give the look of give me the damn money and i go act in another drama."- One, if you look at any of the behind the scenes, which I assume you don't which also begs the question, how do you know she gives that look? Anyways, I digress. In the behind the scenes, she genuinely connects with her co-stars. It's never as though she wants to quickly finished the drama, collect the money, and move on to the next drama. Two, explain to me what's so wrong about actors in general wanting the money for their time and effort, then moving on to the next drama? At the end of the day, it's still a job and they still need to support their family and themselves.
"One of the trick she plays is that you cant criticize her as bad actress."- Explain. How would she play that trick? If people liked her because of her looks, that's not exactly a tricked played by her, now is it? It's not like she's gonna go destroy her natural beauty so she doesn't accidentally "play a trick" on people.
"Even she acts well , her drama will never going to be super successful."- So with this point, you're admitting she can act well? Dramas she's received plenty of awards for being an exceptional actor in all do quite well. Eternal Love of Dream, The King's Woman, The Long Ballad, The Blue Whisper, shall I continue?
"But if she is Second female lead , it could be super successful."- Half the time, when she's the second female lead, people are more invested in her character than the actual lead. Take Diamond Lover for example. Many people preferred her character over the lead and that was at a time where the lead's name was much, much more popular and known than hers. A better example is also in Eternal Love when she played Feng Jiu. People liked her so much that a spin-off was made of it where she became the main character.
"Because she really cant carry the drama."- If you really want to go off your own opinions, I'll give you a piece of mines. Diamond Lover, she wasn't the lead but personally, she carried it and made the show bearable to watch. There are more but it's the dead of night so I'm not going to bother listing more.
"I dropped all of her drama where she was female lead except one. Flames daughter. Mainly because male leads carried the drama"- So this is your opinions. Newsflash, the world doesn't revolve around what you think. Just because you are incapable of understanding a character having layers doesn't mean everyone else can't.
I'm genuinely so sad that the show is over, now I don't have anything to watch in the mornings. Really gonna miss this show. While it had some flaws, I've enjoyed this show while it lasted and I can't wait to do a rewatch.
Does anyone know where/when the extra scenes will be released to international fans btw? I'm desperate
Thank you so much! Funny enough, I know which account made that edit based off the edit style. The original account is a Gong Jun fan account of xiaohongshu
ah, ty. I saw the uncut version on youtube but it's locked behind membership so I'll prolly get that and watch it. It'll probably not have subtitles (I'm natively Chinese so that doesn't really matter to me that much) but if you don't mind that, I can try to download the vid and send it to you or if that doesn't work, I can lend you my YouTube account
This drama makes me realize there's a lot more time for revenge and injustice than prioritizing what makes them…
Exactly. I think generally, this show requires a lot more thinking than others and more careful searching that people don't understand.
One thing that annoyed me I think the most was also people's understanding of Ziyuan's revenge, which was always bringing justice to her family and not making the imperial family bow before her.
And to your point of revenge, I think that's really true. One of the main lessons/themes in the show was what revenge really meant. It was a cruel lesson Ziyuan had to learn. She set aside her own happiness for the sake of it and when she got it, she really wasn't any happier. Even after, she continued rejecting Han Ye because of what happened back then and she lost a lot of time with the love of her life because of it.
While many viewers thought the show to be lacking logic or gave an incomplete answer, most answers I think requires further looking into the show and not just what was shown.
To the point about Han Ye, fully agree once again, as I do with your entire post. I fail to understand why so many people want a kissing scene in the show. It doesn't exactly fit into the dynamic of the couple either. They are more of a "protective of each other" couple instead of a "affectionate" couple, which would obviously mean they won't lip on lip kiss much if at all. Why does there need to be a kiss to determine whether the characters are in love or not anyways? Don't their actions prove it enough?
I just hope in the future, people use more brain power when it comes to watching and carefully observe and interpret character actions and dialogue, it'll be much more enjoyable for them (and for my sanity cause I don't have to explain it to them). Either that, or don't use any brain and just enjoy the shoe. Both will pretty much guarantee a better experience.
This drama deserves a higher rating and fairer reviews. It's really not fair to actors and scriptwriters who genuinely spent their time and effort to add these little details and such and have them completely ignored.
Anyways, I would've loved to have met you much earlier since it seems that we have common thinking methods but hope to see you in the comment section of other dramas in the future! This show has been such a great experience and probably one of the best I've watched. Can't believe it's ending in less than 4 hours. o/
So it looks like they kind of included some of the original scenes from the novel with their own twist. E.g. the…
I mean, technically, it wasn't Luo Mingxi that planted it, it was Linlang, and, spoiler alert, she dies. The flower has 3 buds, which I'm sure won't be a coincidence. One bud will be for Han Ye's eyes, one for Ziyuan's hair, and one for Luo Mingxi's illness. That's my best guess.
Question: I watched a behind the scenes clip on youtube for this drama with an actress doing a dance on a ring…
The character's name is Linlang. The first clip you're talking about is ep 3, around the 17 min mark. The next one is in ep 4, around the 40 min mark. Hope this helps!
"Let me spell out why this drama failed."-
Exactly where did it fail? In case you didn't know, 8/10 is an actually good score. On YouKu, it kept a popularity of 10,000 for 20 days, and that's out of the 25 days it aired, which is genuinely impressive. It's been in the top 5 most popular drama in China, along with holding the most popular drama role for a while. So where is it exactly failing?
"her usual acting style of looking at the invisible wall"-
That was the style of her characters, not her acting style. Are you dense? Ziyuan is usually calm and collected, with not many able to read her thoughts. This can only be portrayed in an acting style of "looking at the invisible wall".
"She is barely an actor with that style."-
Her multiple awards for actor of the year says otherwise, and those are for the roles where her acting style was like ""looking at the invisible wall" because those characters require actual braincells to comprehend the characters and not just looking at what's in front of you.
"She give the look of give me the damn money and i go act in another drama."-
One, if you look at any of the behind the scenes, which I assume you don't which also begs the question, how do you know she gives that look? Anyways, I digress. In the behind the scenes, she genuinely connects with her co-stars. It's never as though she wants to quickly finished the drama, collect the money, and move on to the next drama. Two, explain to me what's so wrong about actors in general wanting the money for their time and effort, then moving on to the next drama? At the end of the day, it's still a job and they still need to support their family and themselves.
"One of the trick she plays is that you cant criticize her as bad actress."-
Explain. How would she play that trick? If people liked her because of her looks, that's not exactly a tricked played by her, now is it? It's not like she's gonna go destroy her natural beauty so she doesn't accidentally "play a trick" on people.
"Even she acts well , her drama will never going to be super successful."-
So with this point, you're admitting she can act well? Dramas she's received plenty of awards for being an exceptional actor in all do quite well. Eternal Love of Dream, The King's Woman, The Long Ballad, The Blue Whisper, shall I continue?
"But if she is Second female lead , it could be super successful."-
Half the time, when she's the second female lead, people are more invested in her character than the actual lead. Take Diamond Lover for example. Many people preferred her character over the lead and that was at a time where the lead's name was much, much more popular and known than hers. A better example is also in Eternal Love when she played Feng Jiu. People liked her so much that a spin-off was made of it where she became the main character.
"Because she really cant carry the drama."-
If you really want to go off your own opinions, I'll give you a piece of mines. Diamond Lover, she wasn't the lead but personally, she carried it and made the show bearable to watch. There are more but it's the dead of night so I'm not going to bother listing more.
"I dropped all of her drama where she was female lead except one. Flames daughter. Mainly because male leads carried the drama"-
So this is your opinions. Newsflash, the world doesn't revolve around what you think. Just because you are incapable of understanding a character having layers doesn't mean everyone else can't.
Does anyone know where/when the extra scenes will be released to international fans btw? I'm desperate
One thing that annoyed me I think the most was also people's understanding of Ziyuan's revenge, which was always bringing justice to her family and not making the imperial family bow before her.
And to your point of revenge, I think that's really true. One of the main lessons/themes in the show was what revenge really meant. It was a cruel lesson Ziyuan had to learn. She set aside her own happiness for the sake of it and when she got it, she really wasn't any happier. Even after, she continued rejecting Han Ye because of what happened back then and she lost a lot of time with the love of her life because of it.
While many viewers thought the show to be lacking logic or gave an incomplete answer, most answers I think requires further looking into the show and not just what was shown.
To the point about Han Ye, fully agree once again, as I do with your entire post. I fail to understand why so many people want a kissing scene in the show. It doesn't exactly fit into the dynamic of the couple either. They are more of a "protective of each other" couple instead of a "affectionate" couple, which would obviously mean they won't lip on lip kiss much if at all. Why does there need to be a kiss to determine whether the characters are in love or not anyways? Don't their actions prove it enough?
I just hope in the future, people use more brain power when it comes to watching and carefully observe and interpret character actions and dialogue, it'll be much more enjoyable for them (and for my sanity cause I don't have to explain it to them). Either that, or don't use any brain and just enjoy the shoe. Both will pretty much guarantee a better experience.
This drama deserves a higher rating and fairer reviews. It's really not fair to actors and scriptwriters who genuinely spent their time and effort to add these little details and such and have them completely ignored.
Anyways, I would've loved to have met you much earlier since it seems that we have common thinking methods but hope to see you in the comment section of other dramas in the future! This show has been such a great experience and probably one of the best I've watched. Can't believe it's ending in less than 4 hours. o/
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