Watch the show if:-You like food : I personnally want to travel to Thailand now, if only to taste all these good…
I was apprehensive at first, then after the first 8 episodes I wondererd why the ratings are so low for this show... After watching it all I can say, this is a really good lakorn, but it unfortunately loses a bit of charm in the second half of the drama. One of the charms of the original korean show, was that there's no evil character in the show. Especially, there's no evil 2d FL. Actually the 2nd FL could be the heroine of another story, one that would focuse on a tragic heroine who loses a faithless lover while being sick, but is rescued and loved by a handsome doctor. At the end of Sam Soon, we wish everyone happiness. Unfortunately, I think Thai writers really have a hard time writing complex, multidimensional female characters. I guess they cannot imagine that another woman could be in love with the ML and YET, still a good person in her own right. They disfigured the 2nd FL, made her into an egotistical villain who would rather destroy her lover than lose him to another. Then they introduced another female rival, and I really thought this was gonna be the positive representation that we needed, but unfortunately she was a disappointment too. This made the show lose a bit of its charm in my opinion.
Watch the show if: -You like food : I personnally want to travel to Thailand now, if only to taste all these good foods that I saw here. I really like when a show commits to the universe and seems to be well researched about the particular topic. Here we see Busaba cook and I really like the gimmick of the cook show that is used to make us watch her cook many times without being boring either.
-You think uglies deserve love too: Yes Bussaba is far from ugly, but in the show they call her ugly because of her baggy clothes, messy hair and glasses. I was happy that the "makeover" she had was for business purposes and didn't make her into a beauty queen either. She simply ditched the glasses and combed her hair. .. a bit.
- You want chemistry and real kisses in you lakorns.
-You want mature but sometimes silly, lovable but imperfect Main Leads.
-You like Film and want to see one of his best performances. His comedic timing is perfect, and he's great at playing naughty boys...
Esther has been in a few remakes of older, classic thai dramas yet. I've seen three of those, and in each of them,…
Wow you really know your lakorn stuff! Ok I think I know what you mean. It's one thing to be showing if it makes sense for the story, as long as it's not romanticizing it right? I've not watched Fallen Leaf yet, but for Mia Jum Pen, my problem was that (1) It was badly done, and felt like denouncing victims more than rapists; (2) most importantly, the ML who we're supposed to root for, acts like being assaulted makes his wife filthy, mistreats her but then when he finds out she was not raped but is still "pure", we're supposed to be happy they end up together. I'm tired even writing this so I can't even imagine how you may feel reading it haha, sorry. But I think it's important to understand that there is "romanticizing" violence and then there's "normalizing" violence. Saying a hero is bad because he's mistreating his wife, but then forgiving him and being lovey dovey after half an episode falls into "normalizing", and it's wrong too. If you wish we can have a conversation about it, maybe send me private message, so that we don't get flagged by the mods for cramping the comments space haha
Esther has been in a few remakes of older, classic thai dramas yet. I've seen three of those, and in each of them,…
Oh when I talk about violence, I not only think of the main lead but also other proeminent parts. Mia Jum Pen does show at least one case of a proeminent character being repeatedly assaulted. As for the lead, there is more than victim blaming you know. When someone takes a presumed rape victim to the place where she was raped, and tie her down, and tell her he's gonna rape her... I don't know what exactly it's called but I'm pretty sure that it can be firmly placed in the area of sexual violence... Also, what do mean by "violence in non romanticizing scenes should be a different story"? Not being belligerent, I really don't understand the sentence because im an ESL :)
Esther has been in a few remakes of older, classic thai dramas yet. I've seen three of those, and in each of them,…
Hum... I unfortunately need to disappoint you, there is still plenty of sexual abuse in lakorns. Look at the waste that was Mia Jun Pen last year. I still have shivers. From time to time I encounter unnecessary violence in lakornland, but I like to think these are the dying throes of the old fashion trends haha. I'm happy that women can be both good and sexually active, and we will see less and less rape but I hope lakorns don't become too PC, I still my dose of toxicity (I know I'm wrong XD)... I love slap/kiss haha.
Esther has been in a few remakes of older, classic thai dramas yet. I've seen three of those, and in each of them,…
I forgot about the violence in Uprince. It probably means it's not really about Esther, which is good, cause it points to a more generalized trend. I just hope it's more about attitude, and not about censorship!
I guess we will see more of her now that she's single again. I do hope this will be by choice and not for need of additionnal income. Either way, I'll welcome her with open arms!!
OK, this show was pretty good. First off, Pong didn't cheat on anyone, which is a small miracle these days (considering his recent roles). I was amazed at how good the two leads look together, considering the age difference, and also some preconceived notions that I had against Esther (that she looks like a teenager and is not graceful enough to play a dancer). Well I now stand corrected! Big kudos though to the make up and styling department who did an amazing job. Esther is always pretty, but here she looked stunning, especially her hair. I'm not usually obsessed with actors' looks but here I really couldn't look away from both leads. I think maybe they used a bit of filter for the ML at least in the first two episodes, because his skin was just too smooth to be true. Anyway, now on to quality! Well the production was really high value, and the writing very good. This is a remake that blows the original work out of the water. They took an interesting idea and wove in some thai character archetypes (the villainous 2d leads, the money grubbing uncle, ...), but funny enough it brought so much depth to the story, compared to the original version which is a bit dry to be honest. Now, the last arch of the villains was typically thai, and it got me mad, so I just skipped these parts. The ending was the same in substance than the original, but with much better writing! I liked the little tear jerker moment in the last episode. I like the way this show ends, compared to the taiwanese version, but I admit that the taiwanese ending is probably more "intellectual". If you wonder which version to watch, I'll say go for the thai version.
Well, this show didn't age well. I found out about it when I heard of the Thai remake, and decided to check out the original work before I watched the remake. The only good things about the drama are an interesting idea and good looking men. Other than that, the production value is poor, the writing becomes boring, repetitive and uninteresting pretty quickly. If you ever hesitate between this version or the new one, I'll advise to go for the thai version, which is better written, with a better production value and a more satisfying ending (both endings are the same, except clear cut in the thai version).
watching episode 2 now and something came to mind...
Esther has been in a few remakes of older, classic thai dramas yet. I've seen three of those, and in each of them, the violence that we see in the original (even rape for two of those) is toned down considerably in the remake. It made me think that I've never seen Esther be physically mistreated in her dramas. I wonder if maybe she has something in her contract against physical violence, or maybe this is just indicative of a cultural change. I like to think that it's both.
I was very skeptical about this show because of the cast. I love Pong and Esther is cute, but I feared the age gap would be terrible. Plus, I never thought Esther was very graceful, and she's supposed to be a dancer here. But now I'm past episode 4 and am very happy. I don't know what Pong eats for breakfast, but I wanna do the same. He seems so youthful in here! And Esther seems very mature too, so I feel that the're very well assorted. Plus, the chemistry is alright (not surprised because this is Pong). I hope everything will go great for the rest of the show..
Actually this drama is start filming at 2017 and Xing Zhao Lin is considered new actor at that time and now his…
Yeah I knew this was filmed a long time ago. I don't think this main lead would agree to do such a mediocre production anymore. Thank you for confirming.
Honestly I never liked him.... The scandal is irrelevant.I don't understand why he's so popular....?
Because if you're a good looking man on the rise, and your character get besmirched, two things ca happen: you either get disgraced and cancelled, or you rebound and become like a messiah, a pure being or something... My comment has nothing to do with him being innocent or guilty, I don't care enough to read all the details of his apology letter with a magnifying glass and pass judgement.
One of the charms of the original korean show, was that there's no evil character in the show. Especially, there's no evil 2d FL. Actually the 2nd FL could be the heroine of another story, one that would focuse on a tragic heroine who loses a faithless lover while being sick, but is rescued and loved by a handsome doctor. At the end of Sam Soon, we wish everyone happiness.
Unfortunately, I think Thai writers really have a hard time writing complex, multidimensional female characters. I guess they cannot imagine that another woman could be in love with the ML and YET, still a good person in her own right. They disfigured the 2nd FL, made her into an egotistical villain who would rather destroy her lover than lose him to another. Then they introduced another female rival, and I really thought this was gonna be the positive representation that we needed, but unfortunately she was a disappointment too. This made the show lose a bit of its charm in my opinion.
-You like food : I personnally want to travel to Thailand now, if only to taste all these good foods that I saw here. I really like when a show commits to the universe and seems to be well researched about the particular topic. Here we see Busaba cook and I really like the gimmick of the cook show that is used to make us watch her cook many times without being boring either.
-You think uglies deserve love too: Yes Bussaba is far from ugly, but in the show they call her ugly because of her baggy clothes, messy hair and glasses. I was happy that the "makeover" she had was for business purposes and didn't make her into a beauty queen either. She simply ditched the glasses and combed her hair. .. a bit.
- You want chemistry and real kisses in you lakorns.
-You want mature but sometimes silly, lovable but imperfect Main Leads.
-You like Film and want to see one of his best performances. His comedic timing is perfect, and he's great at playing naughty boys...
As for what I didn't like in this drama...
Ok I think I know what you mean. It's one thing to be showing if it makes sense for the story, as long as it's not romanticizing it right? I've not watched Fallen Leaf yet, but for Mia Jum Pen, my problem was that (1) It was badly done, and felt like denouncing victims more than rapists; (2) most importantly, the ML who we're supposed to root for, acts like being assaulted makes his wife filthy, mistreats her but then when he finds out she was not raped but is still "pure", we're supposed to be happy they end up together.
I'm tired even writing this so I can't even imagine how you may feel reading it haha, sorry. But I think it's important to understand that there is "romanticizing" violence and then there's "normalizing" violence. Saying a hero is bad because he's mistreating his wife, but then forgiving him and being lovey dovey after half an episode falls into "normalizing", and it's wrong too.
If you wish we can have a conversation about it, maybe send me private message, so that we don't get flagged by the mods for cramping the comments space haha
Also, what do mean by "violence in non romanticizing scenes should be a different story"? Not being belligerent, I really don't understand the sentence because im an ESL :)
I'm happy that women can be both good and sexually active, and we will see less and less rape but I hope lakorns don't become too PC, I still my dose of toxicity (I know I'm wrong XD)... I love slap/kiss haha.
I was amazed at how good the two leads look together, considering the age difference, and also some preconceived notions that I had against Esther (that she looks like a teenager and is not graceful enough to play a dancer). Well I now stand corrected! Big kudos though to the make up and styling department who did an amazing job. Esther is always pretty, but here she looked stunning, especially her hair. I'm not usually obsessed with actors' looks but here I really couldn't look away from both leads. I think maybe they used a bit of filter for the ML at least in the first two episodes, because his skin was just too smooth to be true.
Anyway, now on to quality!
Well the production was really high value, and the writing very good. This is a remake that blows the original work out of the water. They took an interesting idea and wove in some thai character archetypes (the villainous 2d leads, the money grubbing uncle, ...), but funny enough it brought so much depth to the story, compared to the original version which is a bit dry to be honest. Now, the last arch of the villains was typically thai, and it got me mad, so I just skipped these parts.
The ending was the same in substance than the original, but with much better writing! I liked the little tear jerker moment in the last episode. I like the way this show ends, compared to the taiwanese version, but I admit that the taiwanese ending is probably more "intellectual".
If you wonder which version to watch, I'll say go for the thai version.
The only good things about the drama are an interesting idea and good looking men. Other than that, the production value is poor, the writing becomes boring, repetitive and uninteresting pretty quickly.
If you ever hesitate between this version or the new one, I'll advise to go for the thai version, which is better written, with a better production value and a more satisfying ending (both endings are the same, except clear cut in the thai version).
I don't know what Pong eats for breakfast, but I wanna do the same. He seems so youthful in here! And Esther seems very mature too, so I feel that the're very well assorted. Plus, the chemistry is alright (not surprised because this is Pong). I hope everything will go great for the rest of the show..
My comment has nothing to do with him being innocent or guilty, I don't care enough to read all the details of his apology letter with a magnifying glass and pass judgement.