Love the director, but not a fan of the writer. Her main plots are often dragged, aimless and her lead romances are not shippable. Her second leads get more interest (in comparison) and her side stories are more put together (nothing complex, just basic emotion provoking stuff). She just tends to get big budgets, sometimes pretty foreign scenery, well-known actors, hype and good cinematography.
Now this drama’s premise sounds like a mid 2000’s soap with the main character obsessed with a grand melodramatic revenge plot. (Even more petty that the premise sounds like a fully grown adult taking out their anger on a kid instead of the actual perpetrator)
FL… hasn’t left any impression before. As for LDH, I really hope they aren’t planning to give him (another) love line with someone old enough to be his parent!
Why are all Korea second male lead so slow, not logical and always stupid. Like they’re all emotional and never…
It’s worse when it’s borderline incest. This guy has been raised as a sibling, still treated as a son/sibling but here we have a drama romanticising them… 😵💫
Same thing in this FL’s other drama Kill Me Heal Me, raised as siblings from an even younger age but SML dude is still lusting after her. What’s with Kdramas obsession with incest ?
This is the best Korea have to offer? Damn...................
Lol there’s far better quality Kdramas and fine acting than this chaotic mess.
This is just overhyped and shielded because “Top Hallyu Star” (plus other star studded wasted cast) and of course plenty of money thrown at it to make it aesthetic.
Of your watchlist I would caution against Vagabond (same writers as BM), it has some good action, also well known cast and big budget, starts off (imo) much better than BM, but the plot flips over itself and leaves a hanging ending letting you know the entire drama was a bait for a S2
And Alice, unless you don’t mind borderline mother son incest.
What??? She cheats on him? I thought with the leads being married there wouldn't be any love triangles. Very disappointed…
Chemistry isn’t a term used for only romantic pairings. It’s just how well two actors get together on screen (and whether you feel sexual tension if you’re looking at it from a romance point of view)
I already knew the hate was coming i said people will hate on this drama after it finished airing that exactly…
Mate, I was disappointed by this drama from ep1. It didn’t hook me and I found it all over the place with poor characterisations, meandering aim, forced comedy and glaring plotholes and a super super waste of talent for all the star studded cast who had zero depth or consistency to their characters.
I say this as an LJS fan. Was super looking forward to his military comeback. And was excited about what appeared to be a serious exciting thriller before its release. Thought it would be the next Flower of Evil, would top that even, not fall flat on its face.
I really don't dig the genre at all, but I'm trying to watch because of Kwak Dong Yeon.(I'm already struggling…
Wasted potential. They typecasted him, probably because of Vincenzo’s success and this drama’s need to cast trending or famous supporting cast in order to sell it to the masses; underused his character, even had him disappear for a few episodes after which he returned for only a few largely insignificant minutes again, remained as the lackey character.
OCN’s Voice has 4 seasons, there’s the high production quality makjang Penthouse with also 3, Romantic Doctor probably getting a third and something called Ugly Young Ae that has more seasons than most dramas have episodes
I… currently do not have the utmost trust in the original writer and honestly I don’t want this show to lose its charm by meandering on endlessly.
I suppose if the main cast returns I’ll end up watching it anyway. But get the original director on board too, because Ahn Gil Ho is good in this genre and at elevating scripts.
well dang i was thinking about starting this today
Honestly people on this website just tend to focus on the flaws. I have yet to come across a piece of fiction Without flaws.
It’s best to know your own tastes and what you are seeking to watch at any given time and not just follow “trends/recommendations/ratings”.
Whether you enjoy a show depends on what entertainment value you wanted at the moment and what values you hold and if they were reflected in the characters/plot or were stepped over.
Kairos is a good watch if you’d like a time travel thriller with decent production & acting, +don’t want the interruption of stubbornly forced in romance or comedy.
It has one of the worst SLS and the lead characters’ growth and romance went down the drain, making them more…
Right… that also got worse as the episodes progressed.
It started out alright. Not a 100% true to reality ofcourse, but good enough for a drama. But they threw that and pretty much every other interesting or significant plot line for the ridiculously dragged love triangle (to string viewers along) and typical Kdrama lalaland for the main leads and whatever they did and with them being either protected or rewarded by plot armour.
There was really nothing left to watch in the drama by the end. Honestly the FL came off more mature in episode 1 than episode 16.
I cannot get over the fact that Hae Won framed the big reveal of her aunt as though she was the worst when in…
Nooo, don’t shave off the rating, this drama deserves high praise overall. (Rating on mdl is meaningless anyway)
My guesses on why they changed it is that they didn’t want the FL to look like she was doing all the initiating in this relationship, like the first confession (which was dragged out in the drama, in the novel she only initiates the conversation at that “place where suspicions come true” and ES doesn’t shy away from her- no cool reunion night confession scene from HW), the their first night together and now what sounds like a marriage proposal. (Some people already complain the ML is not proactive enough in his romance 🙄). Another that, the plot is mostly a self-reflective journey of acceptance and healing of broken and frozen people. So the point is to defrost them and have them start living again and stop running away from problems, not giving them a guarantee of only good things happening in the future. And after a separation, they needed time to build up their relationship again as the healthier warmer people they were before they made promises of the future to each other. (Besides drama viewers take their answering bright smiles as confirmation that HW isn’t staying for only a limited time this time.)
I still prefer the cute book ending, especially Eun Seob’s “Good Morning” which is so telling of his growth and his decision to let go of his festered hurt and mistrust of happiness and start embracing new experiences.
I cannot get over the fact that Hae Won framed the big reveal of her aunt as though she was the worst when in…
She comes back before the next winter and left around start of spring
As for the ending. I agree that HW’s family drama dragged a little bit (it was 100% self defence but Korean law and public perception may not have worked in their favour but they also gave up in fear/regret/shock without a fight. After which the aunt was slowly withering in guilt, not for the man’s murder itself so much as with the burden of the secret and how it affected her sister and niece’s lives. So her wanting to turn herself in was pretty much this delayed reaction of what she had wanted to do for years, had wanted to do in the first place back then, even if it was meaningless and selfish now. -And I can understand that from their point of view, they see it as a murder. For an outsider it’s easy to point out it is self defence, but for the persons holding the knife so to say, it feels deliberate, intentional. Especially when they do not regret the action and would repeat it anytime.
The “I thought I’d forget him” thing pissed me off too (until she said “but I didn’t, he’s special, that was a stupid thought to have”)
I don’t know why the drama changed the ending reunion scene for the leads, because I hear it was far more reassuring in the original novel.
She does still get upset after receiving her aunt’s confessional novel and leaves. But when she comes back and meets ES again, she basically proposes to him, saying “if he will smile for her (he can’t because he’s too heartbroken from her absence) she will kiss him one last time, in a ~hundred years and be together with him until then”. He smiles, they kiss. ES then ends his private blog for good with a poetic note about Good Morning (instead of Good Night) and how his days are going to be busy kissing HW.
In my head, I’ve accepted the novel ending. Because I really loved this drama for so many other reasons and find ES one of the best male leads of all time and I can’t bear to lose it or him.
Start up is one of my favorites kdramas!!! O.oI can´t belive what the people think 😤
It has one of the worst SLS and the lead characters’ growth and romance went down the drain, making them more likeable and relatable in the beginning episodes as opposed to the ending episodes
im surprised seeing non actors on this list, thank you for telling me~
Eh, I guess it’s okay if he’s acted before, but yeah he’s definitely in the top list for his singing career popularity and not his acting skills like the others
Interesting you should bring up those questions. There is a new movement here in the U.S. of platonic marriages.…
Why would you need a marriage certificate with a best friend in order to continue being best friends and live the exact same life you did before. And what exactly do they require from a legal standpoint? Being able to threaten your friend to not leave you so you can slap them with a divorce and alimony?
Watched this drama because of GSY, I missed her as Sol from Bulgasal, also some comments made me curious how her…
Thought I was the only one who didn’t mind her in the beginning episodes. (perhaps because I knew and liked her from Circle, another good futuristic sci-fi)
Characters being flawed, especially female leads who are usually so docile, and “nice” and only an accessory for (toxic “tsundere”) male leads, is not a bad thing. Character development exists to improve that.
Besides she had No reason to trust the male lead or think the best of him. (And at the beginning when we didn’t know which one she’d end up with, her character being heavily flawed was a good balance off the equally heavily flawed male lead). Then she found out he was a robot and had pretty much the same initial reaction every other character had to his existence (not to mention people who dropped/passed this show because the main character is an AI/not human).
Now this drama’s premise sounds like a mid 2000’s soap with the main character obsessed with a grand melodramatic revenge plot. (Even more petty that the premise sounds like a fully grown adult taking out their anger on a kid instead of the actual perpetrator)
FL… hasn’t left any impression before. As for LDH, I really hope they aren’t planning to give him (another) love line with someone old enough to be his parent!
Same thing in this FL’s other drama Kill Me Heal Me, raised as siblings from an even younger age but SML dude is still lusting after her. What’s with Kdramas obsession with incest ?
This is just overhyped and shielded because “Top Hallyu Star” (plus other star studded wasted cast) and of course plenty of money thrown at it to make it aesthetic.
Of your watchlist I would caution against Vagabond (same writers as BM), it has some good action, also well known cast and big budget, starts off (imo) much better than BM, but the plot flips over itself and leaves a hanging ending letting you know the entire drama was a bait for a S2
And Alice, unless you don’t mind borderline mother son incest.
I say this as an LJS fan. Was super looking forward to his military comeback. And was excited about what appeared to be a serious exciting thriller before its release. Thought it would be the next Flower of Evil, would top that even, not fall flat on its face.
Yep, I’m avoiding this writer from now on.
This thing was such a waste of money and talent.
But I guess they probably got good returns on the investment because of the super famous cast…
I suppose if the main cast returns I’ll end up watching it anyway. But get the original director on board too, because Ahn Gil Ho is good in this genre and at elevating scripts.
It’s best to know your own tastes and what you are seeking to watch at any given time and not just follow “trends/recommendations/ratings”.
Whether you enjoy a show depends on what entertainment value you wanted at the moment and what values you hold and if they were reflected in the characters/plot or were stepped over.
Kairos is a good watch if you’d like a time travel thriller with decent production & acting, +don’t want the interruption of stubbornly forced in romance or comedy.
It started out alright. Not a 100% true to reality ofcourse, but good enough for a drama. But they threw that and pretty much every other interesting or significant plot line for the ridiculously dragged love triangle (to string viewers along) and typical Kdrama lalaland for the main leads and whatever they did and with them being either protected or rewarded by plot armour.
There was really nothing left to watch in the drama by the end. Honestly the FL came off more mature in episode 1 than episode 16.
My guesses on why they changed it is that they didn’t want the FL to look like she was doing all the initiating in this relationship, like the first confession (which was dragged out in the drama, in the novel she only initiates the conversation at that “place where suspicions come true” and ES doesn’t shy away from her- no cool reunion night confession scene from HW), the their first night together and now what sounds like a marriage proposal. (Some people already complain the ML is not proactive enough in his romance 🙄). Another that, the plot is mostly a self-reflective journey of acceptance and healing of broken and frozen people. So the point is to defrost them and have them start living again and stop running away from problems, not giving them a guarantee of only good things happening in the future. And after a separation, they needed time to build up their relationship again as the healthier warmer people they were before they made promises of the future to each other. (Besides drama viewers take their answering bright smiles as confirmation that HW isn’t staying for only a limited time this time.)
I still prefer the cute book ending, especially Eun Seob’s “Good Morning” which is so telling of his growth and his decision to let go of his festered hurt and mistrust of happiness and start embracing new experiences.
As for the ending. I agree that HW’s family drama dragged a little bit (it was 100% self defence but Korean law and public perception may not have worked in their favour but they also gave up in fear/regret/shock without a fight. After which the aunt was slowly withering in guilt, not for the man’s murder itself so much as with the burden of the secret and how it affected her sister and niece’s lives. So her wanting to turn herself in was pretty much this delayed reaction of what she had wanted to do for years, had wanted to do in the first place back then, even if it was meaningless and selfish now. -And I can understand that from their point of view, they see it as a murder. For an outsider it’s easy to point out it is self defence, but for the persons holding the knife so to say, it feels deliberate, intentional. Especially when they do not regret the action and would repeat it anytime.
The “I thought I’d forget him” thing pissed me off too (until she said “but I didn’t, he’s special, that was a stupid thought to have”)
I don’t know why the drama changed the ending reunion scene for the leads, because I hear it was far more reassuring in the original novel.
She does still get upset after receiving her aunt’s confessional novel and leaves. But when she comes back and meets ES again, she basically proposes to him, saying “if he will smile for her (he can’t because he’s too heartbroken from her absence) she will kiss him one last time, in a ~hundred years and be together with him until then”. He smiles, they kiss. ES then ends his private blog for good with a poetic note about Good Morning (instead of Good Night) and how his days are going to be busy kissing HW.
In my head, I’ve accepted the novel ending. Because I really loved this drama for so many other reasons and find ES one of the best male leads of all time and I can’t bear to lose it or him.
Characters being flawed, especially female leads who are usually so docile, and “nice” and only an accessory for (toxic “tsundere”) male leads, is not a bad thing. Character development exists to improve that.
Besides she had No reason to trust the male lead or think the best of him. (And at the beginning when we didn’t know which one she’d end up with, her character being heavily flawed was a good balance off the equally heavily flawed male lead).
Then she found out he was a robot and had pretty much the same initial reaction every other character had to his existence (not to mention people who dropped/passed this show because the main character is an AI/not human).