Everytime a BL starts gaining popularity or praise a group of people mass downvote it and give bad reviews, this isn't an isolated issue, is not a one fandom thing, this has happened a lot with other shows like The Heart Killers, Gelboys and even now The Next Prince (probably more but I only watched those).
fans of the other airing shows came to downvote it , I was in a group of next prince fans and the admin asked…
The Next Prince got mass downvoted too, this happens all the time with BLs that get popular, its never just one fandom, people tried to blame topform fans from downvoting Gelboys when this also happened with other shows like The Heart Killers, Jack & Joker, etc.
Someone else mentioned the author is the one funding and directing the series, if this is happening is because…
I never said it was adapted because it's good, I've never read the novel so I can't judge it yet, but you said felt robbed and im explaining this is happening because of the author, they wanted the story adapated and found a way to do it, it sucks for other authors and novels but they can do whatever they want with their money.
Oh I new I had to come here now that the trailer dropped, I'm glad there more fans that haters now. I'm also a bit surprised that the hate comments have so many likes but I'm assuming they just have a bunch of accounts to like their own comments because most of their arguments make no sense.
the concept of gender identity isn't universally tolerated or accepted, and some people hold beliefs that conflict…
"the concept of gender identity isn't universally tolerated or accepted, and some people hold beliefs that conflict with them"
-And that is my problem, because this comments are trying to push their own gender ideas into other people.
"fictional worlds originate from the minds of real people carrying real-world ideologies into their creations. omegaverse propagates damaging stereotypes, non-consensual situations masked as "instincts," and essentialist gender norms that bleed into reality. audiences are right to criticize them"
-No matter how much it takes from reality, fictional works are still fictional and not all real life norms should apply to them. Omegaverse is also more based on wolves than it is in humans, literally, the alpha-omega-beta comes from wolves pack dynamics and the heat, rut, knotting, the "instinc" also comes from them. If anything Omegaverse follows wolves norms. Also, you are free to critizice it but this is not what most of the comments are doing, most of them are just hate. They hate on Omegaverse and then get all defensive when fans get mad.
"a human female's inability to get pregnant doesn't negate her womanhood. her anatomy and genetic composition are consistent with the female sex. inherent to human femaleness are the physiological foundations of pregnancy, namely, functioning uterus, ovaries, and endocrine system. they can't coexist with human maleness. their presence confirms female sex, irrespective of declared gender identity"
-My comment was about people saying omegas are women because they can get pregnant, so this was about gender (and sex isn't binary either, but that's another topic). This can't and shouldn't be applied to Omegaverse because their biology is different. The genre is very diverse and has evolved a lot. It's one of the genres that gives the author chance to take many creative liberties. But the general version is that male omegas reproductive system consist of: a penis, uterus, ovaries, and functional testicles (some authors consider their sperm sterile, but it’s still there). Female omegas are more similar to real life human females, with the difference that they go through an estrus cycle (all omegas do) instead of menstruating.
"there's no unanimous consensus within the "trans" community. some transmedicalists maintain the stance that men can't get pregnant in fiction or reality, they wouldn't agree with you that we're "transphobic." if anything, i believe omegaverse is misogynistic. it fetishizes the exclusive abilities of the female body (e.g., pregnancy, heat cycles)"
-There shouldn't be a consensus on trans men pregnancy because they exist and they aren't less men, any discussion around it it's just trying to justify transphobia.
Now, for the misogynistic part, I understand where you're coming from, not in vane people joke about how the genre started as a way to have cis male characters experience mysogyni. And just like how most BL (yaoi) started as a subgenre of porn, Omegaverse started like that so I get that it's not for everyone but again, just like BL, it has evolved so much that now it's not just smut but actual plot and stories. I personally don't agree that Omegaverse is inherently misogynistic because: 1- It all depends on the author and generalizing is problematic. 2- Omegaverse was made to detach from traditional gender norms. 3- A lot of Omegaverse works actually critizice gender norms and explore power dynamics.
In conclusion, not all Omegaverse is the same because is a genre, it's fantasy even if it takes inspiration of the real world, if you really don't like it is fine, no one is forcing you to like it or support it, but please respect people who do like it ad and just don't engage with content you don't like. End.
I wish I could ignore the anti-omegaverse trolls in the comments, but I had to say something because a lot of their arguments are very transphobic and misogynistic.
Like, comparing a fantasy genre to real life is already weird but a recurring argument I'm seeing is that Omegaverse isn't BL or is harmful to the gay community because omegas are "women in a man's body", and that if a man can get pregnant or has a womb, then he's a woman; and mind you, female omegas (and alphas) exist in Omegaverse and they are different from male omegas (and alphas). I get that they’re trolls and this is just rage bait, but I'm worried about the amount of people who support those comments because I don’t think they realize how transphobic and misogynistic their logic is, since, according to them, if a woman can't get pregnant or for whatever reason doesn't have a uterus, then she is not a woman and if a trans man gets pregnant then he is a woman now... Do they not see how harmful thinking like this is? I guess not, they don't really care, they just want to hate.
The Omegaverse is a fantasy genre and like all genres, there are toxic stories and also very beautiful stories, and you’re free to hate it in peace, without attacking people who enjoy it and then playing the victim when the fandom defends what they like. And if you really think an omegaverse live action is a personal hate crime against you or the community then you need to go touch grass (and eat it, maybe you will get intoxicated and leave us alone).
Unpopular opinion but I like the Mama and Papa thing, it's very omegaverse. And If only you guys knew how many Asian gay mlm couples (mainly Thai and Chinese but I've seen it with Japanese couples too) call each other like husband and wife, boyfriend and girlfriend, mom and dad, etc.
-And that is my problem, because this comments are trying to push their own gender ideas into other people.
"fictional worlds originate from the minds of real people carrying real-world ideologies into their creations. omegaverse propagates damaging stereotypes, non-consensual situations masked as "instincts," and essentialist gender norms that bleed into reality. audiences are right to criticize them"
-No matter how much it takes from reality, fictional works are still fictional and not all real life norms should apply to them. Omegaverse is also more based on wolves than it is in humans, literally, the alpha-omega-beta comes from wolves pack dynamics and the heat, rut, knotting, the "instinc" also comes from them. If anything Omegaverse follows wolves norms. Also, you are free to critizice it but this is not what most of the comments are doing, most of them are just hate. They hate on Omegaverse and then get all defensive when fans get mad.
"a human female's inability to get pregnant doesn't negate her womanhood. her anatomy and genetic composition are consistent with the female sex. inherent to human femaleness are the physiological foundations of pregnancy, namely, functioning uterus, ovaries, and endocrine system. they can't coexist with human maleness. their presence confirms female sex, irrespective of declared gender identity"
-My comment was about people saying omegas are women because they can get pregnant, so this was about gender (and sex isn't binary either, but that's another topic). This can't and shouldn't be applied to Omegaverse because their biology is different. The genre is very diverse and has evolved a lot. It's one of the genres that gives the author chance to take many creative liberties. But the general version is that male omegas reproductive system consist of: a penis, uterus, ovaries, and functional testicles (some authors consider their sperm sterile, but it’s still there). Female omegas are more similar to real life human females, with the difference that they go through an estrus cycle (all omegas do) instead of menstruating.
"there's no unanimous consensus within the "trans" community. some transmedicalists maintain the stance that men can't get pregnant in fiction or reality, they wouldn't agree with you that we're "transphobic." if anything, i believe omegaverse is misogynistic. it fetishizes the exclusive abilities of the female body (e.g., pregnancy, heat cycles)"
-There shouldn't be a consensus on trans men pregnancy because they exist and they aren't less men, any discussion around it it's just trying to justify transphobia.
Now, for the misogynistic part, I understand where you're coming from, not in vane people joke about how the genre started as a way to have cis male characters experience mysogyni. And just like how most BL (yaoi) started as a subgenre of porn, Omegaverse started like that so I get that it's not for everyone but again, just like BL, it has evolved so much that now it's not just smut but actual plot and stories. I personally don't agree that Omegaverse is inherently misogynistic because:
1- It all depends on the author and generalizing is problematic.
2- Omegaverse was made to detach from traditional gender norms.
3- A lot of Omegaverse works actually critizice gender norms and explore power dynamics.
In conclusion, not all Omegaverse is the same because is a genre, it's fantasy even if it takes inspiration of the real world, if you really don't like it is fine, no one is forcing you to like it or support it, but please respect people who do like it ad and just don't engage with content you don't like. End.
Like, comparing a fantasy genre to real life is already weird but a recurring argument I'm seeing is that Omegaverse isn't BL or is harmful to the gay community because omegas are "women in a man's body", and that if a man can get pregnant or has a womb, then he's a woman; and mind you, female omegas (and alphas) exist in Omegaverse and they are different from male omegas (and alphas). I get that they’re trolls and this is just rage bait, but I'm worried about the amount of people who support those comments because I don’t think they realize how transphobic and misogynistic their logic is, since, according to them, if a woman can't get pregnant or for whatever reason doesn't have a uterus, then she is not a woman and if a trans man gets pregnant then he is a woman now... Do they not see how harmful thinking like this is? I guess not, they don't really care, they just want to hate.
The Omegaverse is a fantasy genre and like all genres, there are toxic stories and also very beautiful stories, and you’re free to hate it in peace, without attacking people who enjoy it and then playing the victim when the fandom defends what they like. And if you really think an omegaverse live action is a personal hate crime against you or the community then you need to go touch grass (and eat it, maybe you will get intoxicated and leave us alone).