Finished binging eps 1-8. Loved it with the extreme tension, passion, seductive, sensitive, creative and cruel,…
I don't think longer/more explicit NC scenes would bring anything to this series... it's all about power and toxic relationships, how they navigate this love triangle. We don't really need to bring soft porn into the mix, the tension is high enough to feel the characters' chemistry like it is.
For those saying the police work is not realistic in Thailand its different from other countries in Thailand law…
Police using brute force is realistic in any context. There are reports of it everywhere, be it France, Canada, Brazil, whatever. Law enforcement often benefits from state protection, it's nothing new or exclusive to Thailand.
The problem here, and why many people complain about it, is with tone. The cops are portrayed in a happy-go-lucky vibe, joking and flirting arround, surrounded by warm colors. Joong's character was introduced as someone who might take short-cuts, sure, but who still seems to have a positive aura. So why is it that he is being violent and pointing guns at suspects? It just doesn't fit the tone of his character, nor the show. There is no heavy atmosphere surrounding him, no personality trait that might justify this kind of behavior. Why is he pointing a gun menacingly at a suspect he already caught? As it is obviously unecessary, we should have some kind of clue that he has violent tendencies, yet there are none.
The show isn't trying to make a point in denouncing police brutality either. The one using violence is a protagonist, and as we've seen so far none of his actions are portrayed as reprehensive. He uses violence just because. You said violence in the Thai police force is seen as normal. What about socially? He encounters no social consequences. He will still get his final prize, as in Dunk's character. We do not expect him to get demoted or rejected by his peers because of his use of violence. It is just gratuitous actions supported by bad writing.
Those silly culottes he so often wears don't do Gun any favors. He looks like a little girl in them. Or a short…
Art truly lies in the eye of the beholder because to me Jira's pieces are beautiful and absolutely appropriate for his character. You can feel his passion and emotion through the harsh and rapid strokes, especially his latest piece representing Pheem. The way the bodies are drawn are somewhat reminiscent of Egon Schiele whose tortured portraits strip bare his subjects and expose their interiority. While Jira's works aren't "polished" like museum pieces, I think they convey very well his state of mind at the time he draws them. I think my main complain would be Ko's choice of frames, they are truly horrendous and don't do the drawings any favor.
I've watched a ridiculous amount of thai bls, which are overwhelmingly directed by men. What stands out in this series and not others, and that also applies to Not Me, is a focus on details and quality of the work. The plot makes sense and is not forced for things to happen. It is a complex story that explores human psychology and does not rely on clichés. The choice of actors is thought out, it does not feel like they threw in rookies just to try and create stars.
If you compare it to the average GMMTV experience, it does stand out. Although overall cinematography has improved in the last year, you still get works like Dare You to Death were the goal is clearly to sell you a CP for merch and future concerts. You get shoved in with a 'hot' couple with no emotional development and a supbar plot and end up asking yourself what is even the purpose of watching it as you feel you get dumber by the minute. I might sound harsh but I'd say the biggest difference between male and female works is that one feels like a money scheme while the other feels like a genuine attempt at creating a meaningful story, at least in the GMMTV universe.
dytd is an adaptation of a popular bl novel. both author n novel readers in thailand are happy with all this series…
Let me ask you a few questions. If you watch a highly anticipated drama, and realize that it is not well researched, that the plot lacks consistency, or that the actors are not on the level you expected them to be, will you still enjoy it as much? Do you think that because the staff worked hard, or because other people enjoy the show, it should be free from criticism? Do you base your judgement of a show on other people's opinions, or do you create your own based on your personal experience and knowledge?
My initial comment wasn't condemning the show and saying people are stupid for enjoying it, I instead expressed my disappointment as I was expecting a more thorough plot and a more tense romance. Having watched The Heart Killers, I know JoongDunk are somewhat able to emulate romantic tension, and I hoped they pushed it further in a more 'professional' context, yet I feel like we went a step back to a more immature storyline.
dytd is an adaptation of a popular bl novel. both author n novel readers in thailand are happy with all this series…
yeah the first two weren't great and The Heart Killer actually made me interested in seeing more from them. 6,5 for a GMMTV BL is great in my books, and I lowered my ranking mainly from the story ending that didn't make any sense, not because of JoongDunk. Have you even read my bio before claiming I'm not a fan?
I also hate this childish "if it's not your taste then watch something else" argument. As a BL enjoyer, I think I actually am the target market and I'm allowed to critique things that don't work for me, no? JoongDunk can be proud of what they accomplished and still be open to critics, always looking for improvement is what makes a good artist. If you genuinely believe every watcher should stay silent and obediently approve everything they put out you're just doing them disservice.
They are based off a novel and so far have stuck to it pretty well as the author and novel readers are enjoying…
I'm not familiar with the novel, but I watch a lot of police dramas and this just doesn't feel on the same level as what's already out there. I'm waiting a bit more to see where the series goes because I like JoongDunk and 2 episodes isn't enough for me to drop it yet, but I'm already a bit disappointed yes!
dytd is an adaptation of a popular bl novel. both author n novel readers in thailand are happy with all this series…
ok and? what are you trying to convince me of? I like JoongDunk and I wanted to see them in a more mature drama, and imo this is not what was delivered... why should I care about thai people and bl fans? if nobody is allowed to complain about tv shows they will never improve...
IDK I'm kinda disappointed in this series so far.. Nothing feels convincing, I was expecting an actual police drama but it reads more like a teenager's fanfiction! No police officer would act so unprofessional, it looks kind of ridiculous and childish when compared to other thriller bls out there? It's a GMMTV production so I shouldn't be surprised but I'm still upset because JoongDunk deserve better writing and directing... Styling is on point though they're hot!
ngl i didn't expect the first nc to happen so soon, is it the same in the book? i like toxic but with 10 eps left i'm wondering how they can keep the tension going if they're already together...
The problem here, and why many people complain about it, is with tone. The cops are portrayed in a happy-go-lucky vibe, joking and flirting arround, surrounded by warm colors. Joong's character was introduced as someone who might take short-cuts, sure, but who still seems to have a positive aura. So why is it that he is being violent and pointing guns at suspects? It just doesn't fit the tone of his character, nor the show. There is no heavy atmosphere surrounding him, no personality trait that might justify this kind of behavior. Why is he pointing a gun menacingly at a suspect he already caught? As it is obviously unecessary, we should have some kind of clue that he has violent tendencies, yet there are none.
The show isn't trying to make a point in denouncing police brutality either. The one using violence is a protagonist, and as we've seen so far none of his actions are portrayed as reprehensive. He uses violence just because. You said violence in the Thai police force is seen as normal. What about socially? He encounters no social consequences. He will still get his final prize, as in Dunk's character. We do not expect him to get demoted or rejected by his peers because of his use of violence. It is just gratuitous actions supported by bad writing.
Edit: this artist IG https://www.instagram.com/naisu.chirat/
If you compare it to the average GMMTV experience, it does stand out. Although overall cinematography has improved in the last year, you still get works like Dare You to Death were the goal is clearly to sell you a CP for merch and future concerts. You get shoved in with a 'hot' couple with no emotional development and a supbar plot and end up asking yourself what is even the purpose of watching it as you feel you get dumber by the minute. I might sound harsh but I'd say the biggest difference between male and female works is that one feels like a money scheme while the other feels like a genuine attempt at creating a meaningful story, at least in the GMMTV universe.
My initial comment wasn't condemning the show and saying people are stupid for enjoying it, I instead expressed my disappointment as I was expecting a more thorough plot and a more tense romance. Having watched The Heart Killers, I know JoongDunk are somewhat able to emulate romantic tension, and I hoped they pushed it further in a more 'professional' context, yet I feel like we went a step back to a more immature storyline.
I also hate this childish "if it's not your taste then watch something else" argument. As a BL enjoyer, I think I actually am the target market and I'm allowed to critique things that don't work for me, no? JoongDunk can be proud of what they accomplished and still be open to critics, always looking for improvement is what makes a good artist. If you genuinely believe every watcher should stay silent and obediently approve everything they put out you're just doing them disservice.
ngl i didn't expect the first nc to happen so soon, is it the same in the book? i like toxic but with 10 eps left i'm wondering how they can keep the tension going if they're already together...