And throughout this case, whether itâs Chu Chu, Auntie Shi Qing, or Miss Liuâer, all of them hesitate and struggleâyet ultimately choose the âgoodness in their hearts.â
Chu Chu wavers and blames herself because of the coldness of the law and the cruelty of the truth. Auntie Shi Qing says that if death is inevitable, she would rather protect them. Liuâer and the others risk everything to reveal the truth out of guilt and conscience.
And throughout all of this, the main cast never forces them to act a certain way, nor do they impose their own sense of justice, because:
âThe fairness of the law is indeed preciousâbut does that mean we should expose the scars of innocent people to the sunlight and let them be scorned by all?â
Later, when Chu Chu is still upset with herself for caring about othersâ opinions, Xiao Jinyu simply says,
âThen be upset for a little while longer.â
Itâs okay to reflect. Itâs okay to be vulnerable. Itâs okay to feel sad. Itâs okay to apologize.
That said, the screenwriter actually put a lot of thought into the details in many places. For example, when they went down to the river to salvage items, the soldiers took off their armor; the pumpkin seedlings also have a clear cause-and-effect logic that forms a closed loop. As for why Shi Qing confessed, it wasnât only because she did accidentally kill someone and wanted to protect those young palace maids, but also because she was safeguarding the Consort. Since the Consort was in charge of the inner palace, any incident there would ultimately be her responsibility. Even though the Consort more or less knew what had happened, palace rules prevented her from openly intervening. In the end, only by revealing the truth and obtaining an imperial pardon could the matter be resolved. In that era, imperial authority always stood above palace regulations and even above the Tang legal code.
So far Iâve watched four episodes, and I feel that the first case is definitely connected to the later ones. For instance, where did that stolen calligraphy and painting go? How does a low-ranking guard have a hidden room in his house, with the switch disguised as a chessboard? He stole valuable items and hid them but didnât sell them for moneyâsurely itâs not just a collectorâs hobby đ€Ł! And the same group of people searched his house twiceâwho exactly are they? I think this guard is very likely connected to the later Nanzhao storyline, and the content of that calligraphy and painting will probably contain crucial information.
There is right and wrong in matters, truth and falsehood in cases. We bear the responsibility to reveal the truth fairlyâand, guided by the kindness in our hearts, to seek the best possible outcome for those involved â Xiao Jinyu
1. At the beginning, Chu Chu looks back on how she and the Prince met and fell in love, while also clearly laying…
1. Consort Hui clearly didnât want Chu Chu to continue the investigation and tried to hand the case over to the Palace Matron instead. But that move ended up drawing the Emperorâs attention. Leng Yue stepping in to shield Chu Chu was so cool. The dialogue here was handled beautifully: Consort Hui had just said a palace maid was found drowned after slipping into the water, and Xiao Jinyu immediatelyâand tactfullyâpointed out the flaw in her wording. Emperor XuÄn obviously caught it too and gave Consort Hui a sideways glance.
2. Chu Chuâs forensic skills are seriously professionalâshe delivers key clues almost instantly. Xiao Jinli is absolutely hilarious: âPulling all-nighters on casesâthatâs our specialty,â clearly responding to viewers joking in Season One that the Three Judicial Offices work like 24/7 agents. Jing Yi and Leng Yue both also notice that something is off with Consort Huiâspecifically, that sheâs afraid of Chu Chu.
3. Hahahaha, what a legendary line: âThat Xiao Jinyuâeven if the King of Hell showed up, heâd still make him check the Book of Life and Death.â Chu Chu sighs about how being a princess consort is harder than being a coroner, and the Prince naturally reaches over to massage her shouldersâhis âhusband energyâ is off the charts. Chu Chu then starts creatively praising how good-looking his skull is, and the Prince even gets jealous, saying sheâs never held his skull like that.
4. Is this what a hardcore couple looks like? Just listen to this conversation! Itâs sweet, but pleaseâdonât say such terrifying things in such a calm tone! âIf someone wanted to dispose of your skull at will, I wouldnât let go either.â âThen my skull thanks you in advance.â
5. Chu He shows upâLOLâand gets kicked straight through the door by Wu Jiang. This time, Wu Jiang finally knows how to read the room. One look from the Prince, and General Wu immediately starts apologizing to his brother-in-law. Chu He really is a great brother. Seeing the Qianzhou-style furniture he arranged in the Princeâs residence, you canât help but thinkâthank goodness Chu Chu grew up with the Chu family.
6. Pausing the frame here, you can spot tons of details on the bookshelves: Southwestern Herbal Compendium, Coronerâs Records, Coronerâs XXX, Simple Musical Notation, and more. The book Xiao Jinyu picks up and flips through is Jin XXX, and the others are also related to forensic studies. Chu Chu becoming a coroner wasnât just due to Uncle the shaman-doctor (Xiao Heng)âs guidanceâChu Ping and Chu He also quietly allowed and supported her learning forensic skills. The look in the Princeâs eyes as he watches Chu Chu carries a deep sense of relief and gratitudeââHow lucky I am to have met Chu Chu.â She endured countless stares and grievances to become a coroner, yet never complained. She only wanted to be a good one. Moved, the Prince tells her, âIâm really glad you never gave up on being a coroner.â
7. Solving cases while flirtingâthis really is The Imperial Coroner. The tone shifts instantly back to discussing Consort Hui and the skull case. Jing Yi and Leng Yue are sweet here tooââauthorityéćź (keeps the house in check)â. Young Minister Jing, your foresight is frighteningly accurate, and youâre way too familiar with the process.
8. Our Chu Chu finally enters the palace wearing her official coronerâs uniform. Season Two really does a better job of showcasing everyoneâs role in investigations: âą Big Brother handles the heavy labor, âą the Prince makes the judgments, âą Chu Chu brings grassroots knowledge from the common world, especially rural details, âą Jing Yi reads people and spots lies, âą Leng Yue excels in martial skills and finds clues in tiny details.
Honestlyâhow could this Three Judicial Offices lineup ever lose?
For Episode One, there isnât much speculation yet. Most suspicion still centers on Consort Hui. I still feel she has ties to Southern Zhaoâpossibly a moleâbut may have developed real feelings for Emperor XuÄn through daily companionship?
1. At the beginning, Chu Chu looks back on how she and the Prince met and fell in love, while also clearly laying out the timeline. Three years have passedâthis is now the ninth year of Dazhong.
2. The mystery in Changâan begins to surface. The item in Shi Qingâs hand is a peacock-feather fan, which I think is a deliberate piece of foreshadowing. The way Chu Chuâs title is handled here is especially good: they first introduce her profession as a coroner, and only afterward mention her identity as Princess Consort of An Commandery. Xiao Jinyuâs sweet talk is officially full marksâ100/100!
3. Chu Chu even specifically learned palace etiquette. When the line âYouâre busy at the Three Judicial Offices every dayâwhere did you find time to hire a tutor?â came up, it suddenly reminded me of Season One, when the Prince gave Chu Chu her autopsy tools and she asked him in surprise:
âIâve been with you this whole time. Youâre either reading or reviewing case filesâI never saw you make these.â âI did it at night.â âAt night? You donât sleep?â
Honestly, on the path of being the ultimate workaholics of the Three Judicial Offices, this couple is ridiculously well-matched.
4. Prince An is still as respectful and humble as ever. He was just being all sweet and affectionate, and the moment Leng Yue barges in without knocking, his expression changes instantly. Chu Chu secretly laughing while still in his armsâhow can they be this sweet?
5. The Prince then launches into a full analytical breakdown, further reinforcing for the audience how keenly observant and razor-sharp An Commandery Prince is when it comes to reasoning and deduction.
6. His tone shifts incredibly fast here too: with Leng Yue, itâs the straightforward âbrotherâ tone; with Chu Chu, his voice immediately softens. Jing Yi and Xiao Jinli also make their appearances. The conversation between Chu Chu and Leng Yue about womenâs attire when entering the palace is really well done.
7. When Xiao Jinyu enters, all the officials clasp their hands and bowâbut in the distance, Gao Luoqian doesnât even turn his head. Later, when the foreign envoys try to ingratiate themselves with Xiao Jinyu, Gao Luoqian only strolls in slowly afterward. This clearly shows Southern Zhaoâs contempt for the Tang court. In Chu Chu and Leng Yueâs dialogue, the line âpalace maids and guards will be punished if they have even slight private interactionsâ is mentionedâthis clearly lays groundwork for the case that follows.
8. Throughout his conversation with Xiao Jinyu, Gao Luoqian never once stands upâhis arrogance is extreme. Thereâs an important information point here: Xiao Jinyu brings up Southern Zhao luring Tang citizens and trafficking people. This detail feels like something that will definitely come back later. Jin Bao has now been promoted to Chief Eunuch (Grand Supervisor). Thereâs also a very telling physical detail here: after Emperor XuÄn of Tang appears, Gao Luoqian does perform a saluteâbut he rises almost immediately, while the surrounding envoys and officials are still kneeling. This perfectly highlights the Southern Zhao deputy envoyâs blatant disrespect toward the Tang court.
9. Previously, there were analyses suggesting that the moving skull contained a small animalâand that turns out to be correct. Whatâs especially worth examining here is Consort Huiâs expression. The other palace maids and noblewomen are either panicking or watching the skull warily, but Hui Fei looks almost⊠unfazed, as if this isnât entirely unfamiliar to her. When Chu Chu mentions the other parts of the corpse, Hui Fei and Shi Qing exchange a glance. By this point, viewers already have an initial judgment about the reactions of Hui Fei, Shi Qing, the Palace Matron, and the maid Liuâer. But the bigger question remains: how exactly did this case happen, and why?
Xiao Jinyu's solo poster.The background of this picture is from *Guiguzi: The Art of War*, which states, "Each…
Some of these details correspond to the cases shown in the trailers. Letâs start with the overall poster.
The posterâs main theme is a painted scroll, unfolding from near to far. Director Lou previously mentioned that this seasonâs story is related to âexternal threats,â so could this scroll be connected to a map of the Tang Dynastyâs border fortresses?
Xiao Jinyuâs position on the poster happens to sit at the midpoint linking several cases, which suggests that someone may be trying to make an issue out of Xiao Jinyuâusing him as a focal point.
Now letâs look at the four detailed images on the poster, in order from far to near.
Image 2 shows white bones and palace maids in a lotus pond. This likely corresponds to the âwhite bones at the birthday banquetâ case seen in earlier trailers.
Image 3 depicts a monk and a woman. One notable detail is that the two are holding hands. This should correspond to the mysterious death of Master Shenguan. It feels like Shenguanâs death may be connected to a past romantic relationship.
Image 4 shows, behind a bamboo fence, a masked man dressed in black holding a medicine bottle, with another person facing away from the viewer. The black-clad figure doesnât look like a Tang person; he feels more like a foreigner. Given that this seasonâs theme is closely tied to Nanzhao, itâs reasonable to speculate that this masked figure is from Nanzhao. The person with their back to us is very likely a Tang individual colluding with foreign forces for ulterior motives. The bottle probably contains poisonâso will someone be poisoned? Could this case be linked to Emperor Wuzong of Tangâs death? Historically, Emperor Wuzong died from poisoning after consuming elixirs. Could this old case be an investigation into the mystery of his death?
Image 5 shows someone dead on a stage. The amount of blood seems unusually excessive. Could it be the result of some kind of mechanical trap, causing such heavy bleeding?
Now back to the characters. In the poster, Jing Yi, Chu Chu, and You Chenâan are all holding objects that look like scrolls, but theyâre not quite the same.
Itâs still hard to guess what Jing Yi is holding.
What Chu Chu is holding looks a bit like the illustrated manual You Chenâan once gave herâbut that raises a question: what, then, is the scroll in You Chenâanâs hands?
Could it be secret information about Nanzhao that he wants to guide the Sanfasi team to help investigate?
As for You Chenâanâs lavish attireâhonestly, he doesnât look like a destitute nobleman at all. So his âfall from graceâ may be less about material hardship and more about being politically sidelined or marginalized within the Nanzhao royal family.
Xiao Jinyu's solo poster.The background of this picture is from *Guiguzi: The Art of War*, which states, "Each…
Group poster.
The earliest official group portrait promotional image features a giant peacock feather in the background, hinting at the backdrop of the second season's theme: the entanglement between the Nanzhao Kingdom and the Tang Dynasty.
The Nanzhao Kingdom revered the peacock, symbolizing royal power and status, and it was also a mascot. During Emperor Wuzong's reign, relations with the Tang Dynasty were relatively peaceful, but from Emperor Xuanzong's reign onwards, tensions began to rise.
This season will likely incorporate some plot points from Emperor Wuzong's era; it remains to be seen how the writers will weave them together! After all, the Nanzhao Kingdom was also embroiled in internal strife at that time, with the real conflict occurring after Emperor Xuanzong's death. It's likely the writers will bring forward some of these events.
The background of this picture is from *Guiguzi: The Art of War*, which states, "Each thing returns to its origin, whether yin or yang, soft or hard, open or closed, relaxed or tense. Therefore, the sage guards its gates, examines its order, measures its power and ability, and compares its skills and weaknesses."
In other words, all things are infinitely changing, but ultimately return to their origin. Growth and decay are interdependent and transformative. By observing and assessing the situation, one can grasp the core of events, adopt corresponding strategies based on the opponent's tendencies, and thus influence the final outcome. Judging from this official promotional image, the props in Little Coroner 2 might be similar to the first one, with many details.
Chu Chu wavers and blames herself because of the coldness of the law and the cruelty of the truth.
Auntie Shi Qing says that if death is inevitable, she would rather protect them.
Liuâer and the others risk everything to reveal the truth out of guilt and conscience.
And throughout all of this, the main cast never forces them to act a certain way, nor do they impose their own sense of justice, because:
âThe fairness of the law is indeed preciousâbut does that mean we should expose the scars of innocent people to the sunlight and let them be scorned by all?â
Later, when Chu Chu is still upset with herself for caring about othersâ opinions, Xiao Jinyu simply says,
âThen be upset for a little while longer.â
Itâs okay to reflect.
Itâs okay to be vulnerable.
Itâs okay to feel sad.
Itâs okay to apologize.
Everything is handled with such tenderness.
So far Iâve watched four episodes, and I feel that the first case is definitely connected to the later ones. For instance, where did that stolen calligraphy and painting go? How does a low-ranking guard have a hidden room in his house, with the switch disguised as a chessboard? He stole valuable items and hid them but didnât sell them for moneyâsurely itâs not just a collectorâs hobby đ€Ł! And the same group of people searched his house twiceâwho exactly are they? I think this guard is very likely connected to the later Nanzhao storyline, and the content of that calligraphy and painting will probably contain crucial information.
â Xiao Jinyu
The dialogue here was handled beautifully: Consort Hui had just said a palace maid was found drowned after slipping into the water, and Xiao Jinyu immediatelyâand tactfullyâpointed out the flaw in her wording. Emperor XuÄn obviously caught it too and gave Consort Hui a sideways glance.
2. Chu Chuâs forensic skills are seriously professionalâshe delivers key clues almost instantly. Xiao Jinli is absolutely hilarious: âPulling all-nighters on casesâthatâs our specialty,â clearly responding to viewers joking in Season One that the Three Judicial Offices work like 24/7 agents. Jing Yi and Leng Yue both also notice that something is off with Consort Huiâspecifically, that sheâs afraid of Chu Chu.
3. Hahahaha, what a legendary line:
âThat Xiao Jinyuâeven if the King of Hell showed up, heâd still make him check the Book of Life and Death.â
Chu Chu sighs about how being a princess consort is harder than being a coroner, and the Prince naturally reaches over to massage her shouldersâhis âhusband energyâ is off the charts. Chu Chu then starts creatively praising how good-looking his skull is, and the Prince even gets jealous, saying sheâs never held his skull like that.
4. Is this what a hardcore couple looks like? Just listen to this conversation! Itâs sweet, but pleaseâdonât say such terrifying things in such a calm tone!
âIf someone wanted to dispose of your skull at will, I wouldnât let go either.â
âThen my skull thanks you in advance.â
5. Chu He shows upâLOLâand gets kicked straight through the door by Wu Jiang. This time, Wu Jiang finally knows how to read the room. One look from the Prince, and General Wu immediately starts apologizing to his brother-in-law. Chu He really is a great brother. Seeing the Qianzhou-style furniture he arranged in the Princeâs residence, you canât help but thinkâthank goodness Chu Chu grew up with the Chu family.
6. Pausing the frame here, you can spot tons of details on the bookshelves: Southwestern Herbal Compendium, Coronerâs Records, Coronerâs XXX, Simple Musical Notation, and more. The book Xiao Jinyu picks up and flips through is Jin XXX, and the others are also related to forensic studies.
Chu Chu becoming a coroner wasnât just due to Uncle the shaman-doctor (Xiao Heng)âs guidanceâChu Ping and Chu He also quietly allowed and supported her learning forensic skills.
The look in the Princeâs eyes as he watches Chu Chu carries a deep sense of relief and gratitudeââHow lucky I am to have met Chu Chu.â She endured countless stares and grievances to become a coroner, yet never complained. She only wanted to be a good one. Moved, the Prince tells her, âIâm really glad you never gave up on being a coroner.â
7. Solving cases while flirtingâthis really is The Imperial Coroner. The tone shifts instantly back to discussing Consort Hui and the skull case. Jing Yi and Leng Yue are sweet here tooââauthorityéćź (keeps the house in check)â. Young Minister Jing, your foresight is frighteningly accurate, and youâre way too familiar with the process.
8. Our Chu Chu finally enters the palace wearing her official coronerâs uniform. Season Two really does a better job of showcasing everyoneâs role in investigations:
âą Big Brother handles the heavy labor,
âą the Prince makes the judgments,
âą Chu Chu brings grassroots knowledge from the common world, especially rural details,
âą Jing Yi reads people and spots lies,
âą Leng Yue excels in martial skills and finds clues in tiny details.
Honestlyâhow could this Three Judicial Offices lineup ever lose?
For Episode One, there isnât much speculation yet. Most suspicion still centers on Consort Hui. I still feel she has ties to Southern Zhaoâpossibly a moleâbut may have developed real feelings for Emperor XuÄn through daily companionship?
2. The mystery in Changâan begins to surface. The item in Shi Qingâs hand is a peacock-feather fan, which I think is a deliberate piece of foreshadowing. The way Chu Chuâs title is handled here is especially good: they first introduce her profession as a coroner, and only afterward mention her identity as Princess Consort of An Commandery.
Xiao Jinyuâs sweet talk is officially full marksâ100/100!
3. Chu Chu even specifically learned palace etiquette.
When the line âYouâre busy at the Three Judicial Offices every dayâwhere did you find time to hire a tutor?â came up, it suddenly reminded me of Season One, when the Prince gave Chu Chu her autopsy tools and she asked him in surprise:
âIâve been with you this whole time. Youâre either reading or reviewing case filesâI never saw you make these.â
âI did it at night.â
âAt night? You donât sleep?â
Honestly, on the path of being the ultimate workaholics of the Three Judicial Offices, this couple is ridiculously well-matched.
4. Prince An is still as respectful and humble as ever. He was just being all sweet and affectionate, and the moment Leng Yue barges in without knocking, his expression changes instantly. Chu Chu secretly laughing while still in his armsâhow can they be this sweet?
5. The Prince then launches into a full analytical breakdown, further reinforcing for the audience how keenly observant and razor-sharp An Commandery Prince is when it comes to reasoning and deduction.
6. His tone shifts incredibly fast here too: with Leng Yue, itâs the straightforward âbrotherâ tone; with Chu Chu, his voice immediately softens. Jing Yi and Xiao Jinli also make their appearances. The conversation between Chu Chu and Leng Yue about womenâs attire when entering the palace is really well done.
7. When Xiao Jinyu enters, all the officials clasp their hands and bowâbut in the distance, Gao Luoqian doesnât even turn his head. Later, when the foreign envoys try to ingratiate themselves with Xiao Jinyu, Gao Luoqian only strolls in slowly afterward. This clearly shows Southern Zhaoâs contempt for the Tang court.
In Chu Chu and Leng Yueâs dialogue, the line âpalace maids and guards will be punished if they have even slight private interactionsâ is mentionedâthis clearly lays groundwork for the case that follows.
8. Throughout his conversation with Xiao Jinyu, Gao Luoqian never once stands upâhis arrogance is extreme. Thereâs an important information point here: Xiao Jinyu brings up Southern Zhao luring Tang citizens and trafficking people. This detail feels like something that will definitely come back later.
Jin Bao has now been promoted to Chief Eunuch (Grand Supervisor). Thereâs also a very telling physical detail here: after Emperor XuÄn of Tang appears, Gao Luoqian does perform a saluteâbut he rises almost immediately, while the surrounding envoys and officials are still kneeling. This perfectly highlights the Southern Zhao deputy envoyâs blatant disrespect toward the Tang court.
9. Previously, there were analyses suggesting that the moving skull contained a small animalâand that turns out to be correct. Whatâs especially worth examining here is Consort Huiâs expression. The other palace maids and noblewomen are either panicking or watching the skull warily, but Hui Fei looks almost⊠unfazed, as if this isnât entirely unfamiliar to her. When Chu Chu mentions the other parts of the corpse, Hui Fei and Shi Qing exchange a glance.
By this point, viewers already have an initial judgment about the reactions of Hui Fei, Shi Qing, the Palace Matron, and the maid Liuâer. But the bigger question remains: how exactly did this case happen, and why?
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Letâs start with the overall poster.
The posterâs main theme is a painted scroll, unfolding from near to far. Director Lou previously mentioned that this seasonâs story is related to âexternal threats,â so could this scroll be connected to a map of the Tang Dynastyâs border fortresses?
Xiao Jinyuâs position on the poster happens to sit at the midpoint linking several cases, which suggests that someone may be trying to make an issue out of Xiao Jinyuâusing him as a focal point.
Now letâs look at the four detailed images on the poster, in order from far to near.
Image 2 shows white bones and palace maids in a lotus pond. This likely corresponds to the âwhite bones at the birthday banquetâ case seen in earlier trailers.
Image 3 depicts a monk and a woman. One notable detail is that the two are holding hands. This should correspond to the mysterious death of Master Shenguan. It feels like Shenguanâs death may be connected to a past romantic relationship.
Image 4 shows, behind a bamboo fence, a masked man dressed in black holding a medicine bottle, with another person facing away from the viewer. The black-clad figure doesnât look like a Tang person; he feels more like a foreigner. Given that this seasonâs theme is closely tied to Nanzhao, itâs reasonable to speculate that this masked figure is from Nanzhao. The person with their back to us is very likely a Tang individual colluding with foreign forces for ulterior motives. The bottle probably contains poisonâso will someone be poisoned? Could this case be linked to Emperor Wuzong of Tangâs death? Historically, Emperor Wuzong died from poisoning after consuming elixirs. Could this old case be an investigation into the mystery of his death?
Image 5 shows someone dead on a stage. The amount of blood seems unusually excessive. Could it be the result of some kind of mechanical trap, causing such heavy bleeding?
Now back to the characters. In the poster, Jing Yi, Chu Chu, and You Chenâan are all holding objects that look like scrolls, but theyâre not quite the same.
Itâs still hard to guess what Jing Yi is holding.
What Chu Chu is holding looks a bit like the illustrated manual You Chenâan once gave herâbut that raises a question: what, then, is the scroll in You Chenâanâs hands?
Could it be secret information about Nanzhao that he wants to guide the Sanfasi team to help investigate?
As for You Chenâanâs lavish attireâhonestly, he doesnât look like a destitute nobleman at all. So his âfall from graceâ may be less about material hardship and more about being politically sidelined or marginalized within the Nanzhao royal family.
The earliest official group portrait promotional image features a giant peacock feather in the background, hinting at the backdrop of the second season's theme: the entanglement between the Nanzhao Kingdom and the Tang Dynasty.
The Nanzhao Kingdom revered the peacock, symbolizing royal power and status, and it was also a mascot. During Emperor Wuzong's reign, relations with the Tang Dynasty were relatively peaceful, but from Emperor Xuanzong's reign onwards, tensions began to rise.
This season will likely incorporate some plot points from Emperor Wuzong's era; it remains to be seen how the writers will weave them together! After all, the Nanzhao Kingdom was also embroiled in internal strife at that time, with the real conflict occurring after Emperor Xuanzong's death. It's likely the writers will bring forward some of these events.
The background of this picture is from *Guiguzi: The Art of War*, which states, "Each thing returns to its origin, whether yin or yang, soft or hard, open or closed, relaxed or tense. Therefore, the sage guards its gates, examines its order, measures its power and ability, and compares its skills and weaknesses."
In other words, all things are infinitely changing, but ultimately return to their origin. Growth and decay are interdependent and transformative. By observing and assessing the situation, one can grasp the core of events, adopt corresponding strategies based on the opponent's tendencies, and thus influence the final outcome. Judging from this official promotional image, the props in Little Coroner 2 might be similar to the first one, with many details.