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Personally I took the "mini Sa Eon" comment as foreshadowing that Park's work ethic was leaning towards an obsessive degree- too perfect like he was trying too hard (in a subtly way) to be just like SE to win his trust while hiding something?

The difference is visible when you compare him with Chief Kang who also is dying to be SE's number 2 but he doesn't go so far as to strip himself off his individuality.

We only saw PDJ break character when he spoke about SW's vlog when he accidently outed himself as a Paradisor.

I'm 98% sure SE is the illegitimate son since it makes sense why the grandfather was so criptic about his name and why the grandfather was confortable enough to replace real SE with our's instead of killing him too (also the fisherman freaked out when SE called him dad when the grandfather was around).

About presidential candidate Baek being the chairman's son? Honestly that comment was so weird. It's possible the mum just wanted to antoganize him since he was acting all high and mighty when he was so incompetent or may be the grandfather really did switch him too (but this seems so unlikely since why would he want to get some random kid -specially with an eye mutation that would have been considered as a bad thing for his ego when it's clear that he is able to produce his own son?)

Sa Eon still hasn't made it public knowledge that it was their real son who did the murders (not sure about the cops tho)/ about his mentality/ he is the kidnapper (at least based on the news clip we saw).

The mum is desperate now so she might not be seeing how pointless it is to fight for him. She just wants to prove to her son that she will not abandon him again- protect him no matter how asinine her plan might be. Since SE still hasn't made real SE's identity public (just informed that he is a fake), she still might think there's a chance to save her son from getting locked up 🙈

Reclaiming the name- i think the focus here is mostly to reclaim his identity more than the persona Sa Eon created. Right now the kidnapper lives in the shadows- he doesn't even have a name. He also loathes SE for not helping him and is seeking revenge. The fact that he admitted that the only reason he didn't do anything to his family was out of fear says it all 🙈

It's a losing battle...but desperate times you know?🙈

He can legally get a new name if he wasn't originally registered.

Assuming real SE survives long enough to go to jail, even if SE wanted to, he can't use SE's name.

Grandfather only "killed" his grandson (real SE) since he was a liability and he also caused the Hong kids' accident to hide the fact that SE was switched. All the other murders were done by real SE when he was a kid since he's a psychopath with killer instincts.


The shoes- they were orphans so probably the orphanage made do with whatever they had? Since PDJ recognized it, 99% possibility is there that the 4th victim was his twin.

True...i want ep 12 to spend time going over SaJu's normal life instead of the mystery (kind of like what they did with Lovely Runner ep 16) so for that to happen, there isn't enough time to make Sang Woo the ultimate mastermind 🫠🫠🫠

Guess the mum really did find Heeju and will plan some kind of bargaining thing (makes sense since she's supposed to be an expert negotiator)

He was drugged and pushed off the balcony (ep 1 Sunjae wasn't as mentally strong at that time since he was drinking+ on meds right before the attack).

The stabbing only happened in the other timelines because he resisted the taxi driver (in ep 9, we can see that the taxi driver tried to drug him with a white cloth but Sunjae pushed him away).

He does give a creepy vibe right? At the very least there's a possibility thaat he may have helped to lure kids to the house?

I find it odd that he didn't know about the twin case AND in a way you can use his vlog as the perfect place to introduce PDJ to the real SE since we know that they found eachother online (i mean PDJ is a paradiser and they clearly mentioned that SW's vlog covers explosives and crimes- the kidnapper's favourite subjects).🙈

Ohhh and he acted odd when the nun asked about his first love, HJ - kinda teary eyed.

Then again, we expected alot from 2521 too and in the end their twist was so simple so may be we are overthinking and the surprise revelation would actually be that SE's mum found Heeju but is trying to use her as a bargaining chip to save her son🤷‍♀️ 🙈

It could have been a paternity test specifically? Since they didn't show the match % it's possible they could be related while not meet the required % to be recognized as the dad?

It could have been a paternity test specifically? Since they didn't show the match % it's possible they could be related while not meet the required % to be recognized as the dad.

Out of curiousity, did you find SW's reaction during the victim revelation scenes abit odd? Not the grief but the way it was portrayed? It's been bothering me since I saw it but I brushed it off as a "me" problem.

But after seeing ep 11's description "sad hunch", I feel suspicious again. Specially since we don't know how PDJ found the real SE and my overthinking self can kind of link both to SW's vlog.

The mum seems like the obvious choice-like i saw a post suggesting that may be mum found Heeju but is hiding her whereabouts to use it as a bargaining chip to save her son. But it just feels way too obvious.🙈

Oooh this theory does sound good too (and low key meets the "sad hunch" requirement:

https://x.com/fushiqis0517/status/1873526293016547790

(Mum saves HJ and her son but keeps HJ as a hostage/ bargaining chip)

Ikr?? Who stands to benefit. They have released ep 11's synopsis as SE is supposed to have a "sad hunch" and there's supposed to be a surprise reveal. Mum is the obvious candidate but "sad hunch" makes me want to pick Sang Woo again since the mum abandoning SE wouldn't really be a surprise 🙈🙈🙈


The only people who could disappoint SE at this point would have to be his reporter friend, Sang Woo, and Yuri. Yuri would be a random character choice to turn evil. The reporter seems like to be character choice specifically created to show SE's hidden "human" side in the initial episodes, while SW like i mentioned earlier has enough motive to be evil (sending advanced apologies to SW in case he is innocent🙈🙈🙈)

Aside from the mum, who do you think it could be?


Your suggestion on the arson thory does sound interesting. There is so much attention to detail, the burn scar must mean something🙈

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After rewatching the episodes, things get more clear ngl. We are usually too distracted during the first watch 🙈

The wildest theory I could think of is that it was Sang Woo all along since he's the one who seems to be involved everywhere. (THEORY IS TOTALLY UNLIKELY BTW)!)

The fourth body is still going through DNA testing and the 3 other bodies were identified based on SW's word.

One thing they still haven't revealed is how did PDJ and the kidnapper crosspaths since it seems like the 2 never met in real life (nor did the kidnapper know that PDJ was working with SE). The only logical connection would be that they met eachother online.

We know that PDJ is a fan of SW 's vlog and the kidnapper is a fan of explosions and gore in general (which happens to be one of SW's top subjects covered in his vlog).

Since SW had a crush on HJ, what if SW orchestrated the whole thing so he can have HJ? Let's just say, maaaay be SW actually didn't run away as a kid as he claims but was the one who actually lured the boys to their deaths on purpose since he was in cahoots with the kidnapper even as a kid?
As an adult, he could have figured out SE's secret, PDJ's secret, as well as figured out that the kidnapper survived and connect it to his past and somehow connect PDJ with the kidnapper anonymously taking advantage of his vlog so that he can destroy SE and have HJ all to himself? He did seem sad when the nun asked about his first love after all🙈

(This is an ultra delulu theory btw so don't take it seriously!)

No worries- they figured it out because of his eye colour if it helps :)

SE's mum and SW figured it out previously in ep 7 when they did the press release (SW didn't know that he was the real SE at the time but he knew the mask kid also had an eye colour mutation).

Heeju later figured it out in ep 9 when the Baek family secretary told her that one of the senior Baeks did a surgery to correct an eye colour mutation. Since it was a genetic mutation, Heeju figured out that the real son was the kidnapper.

That's just pathetic 🤦‍♀️🤣

I really don't get the comparison between the MLs. Aside from being married, they are not similar at all.

If anything, Sa Eon and Hong Hae In from QOT make a better comparison. Similarly Heeju and Baek HW from QOT make a better comparison if you haaave to compare characters.

It just proves that whoever who is making the comparison never even understood QOT in the first place since they can't even get the character comparison right🤦‍♀️

Did you watch ep 10?

⚠️⚠️⚠️SPOILER FOR EP 10⚠️⚠️⚠️

It was the real Sa Eon, aka the kidnapper.