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Extreme self-centeredness and sense of entitlement, and a complete lack of humility, self-awareness and shame. She's on the psychopath/sociopath spectrum for sure. She's the kind of person who can justify all her evil deeds because it's done out of love for her son--as if giving him money/power is somehow the most loving thing a mother can do for her child.

I think it's because of the FIFA U-23 match between Korea and Japan.

I think the only way to enjoy these makjang dramas is to watch them somewhat mindlessly and remember that these aren't works of art but mere entertainment.

Yes, Hwa Yeong is so over the top evil. One of the frustrations of watching a character like her is that often so many of the other characters are too dumb/blind to recognize her nature.

It's impossible to watch K-dramas like this (especially these makjang dramas) without noticing that often the main engine driving the plot is the toxicity of the female characters. To be sure, there's always the good-hearted woman who will get justice at the end, but her victory only comes after overcoming the pettiness, schemes, lies, manipulations, greed, materialism and violence of many toxic women. Of course, there's no dearth of toxic masculinity either in K-dramas, but that's usually found in the thugs, criminals, and the greedy and power-hungry businessmen/politicians. But the interpersonal type of petty yet destructive behavior shown more often by the female characters seems no less toxic.

Is it just me, or does The First Man have more than its share of such toxic femininity? Chae Hwa Yeong, Seorin the bad twin, Jin Hong Ju and her mother, and to an extent Jang Mi's sister, too--there's really no female character with any positive qualities besides Jang Mi. I can enjoy a makjang probably more than most people, but even for me the constant toxicity is almost too much. (And it doesn't help that most of the male characters seem weak, indecive, emasulated or buffoons. So far, Jun Ho the chef is the most interesting male character, so I'm interestes in how he develops in his career and love life.) I wish there could be another female character (or two) who can bring a bit of balance, who could be a good friend/support for Jang Mi.

Exactly my reaction regarding the comedy and the panelists.

This had me rolling:
Jaeyun to Yeo Myung: (mumbling) can I help you?
Seung Li (who thought Jaeyun was talking to him): Why?

https://kisskh.at/people/231-gu-hye-seon

She looks like Gu Hye Sun from Boys over Flowers.

Genuinely the most I've ever laughed watching a Korean reality TV show. Episode 2 especially was comedy gold. The reactions/commentary of the four hosts are awesome. I'm especially pulling for Jae Yun to overcome his awkward shyness to make a connection with someone. Overall, I think the ladies are much more "normal" than the guys.

Did episode 23 air on Dec 26?

Even by daily makjang standards the number of villains seems unusually high: 2ML, 2FL, 2ML's mom, 2FL's mom, 2FL's sister. Or maybe it's because the villains are so concentrated in one family. It's a bit hard to watch now since the FL's family is victimized in numerous ways, but that only means that the satisfaction will be great when justice is meted out. And seeing the villains get their just deserts is a primary reason for watching shows like this. There might not be justice in the real world, but it exists in K-dramaland.

2 episodes in, I'm really enjoying it. Just my kind of drama. Righteous, smart, vulnerable heroine surrounded by likeable supporting characters, fighting against a host of corrupt, cruel people. I think the setup was done very well in just the right amount of time. The only minor flaw is that I'm supposed to believe that those drawings of fugitives are so accurate that our heroine could be caught because of them.

I just read your profile. I agree 100% with what you said about being offended and handling differences of opinion. I think we could be friends in real life. Have a good day and enjoy the show. I decided not to watch it (at least right now) for a lack of time.

My apologies; I didn't quite catch your tone of voice in your first message. Maybe we're similar in age? I'm in my mid-50s. Maybe that helps in giving a proper perspective and in how we rank things like K-dramas on the list of what's truly important in life. Maybe that keeps us from being irrational fanboy/fangirl and unreasonable hater.

1) It was a joke. 2) I don't expect my opinions/comments to make any difference to anyone because, let's face it, we're only talking about TV shows, which in the grand scheme of things, is almost completely inconsequential. But I hope that those who huff and puff about CSW would also realize that CSW isn't sitting at home all worried because some people don't like his politics or his family background. Their opinions about CSW--or about anything else in this fantasyland of K-dramas--matters not one bit, so the sooner they take themselves and their opinions about shows and actors less seriously, the better.

I'm like you. I don't think this is a well-written drama, but I'm sticking around because I like everyone in Uri's family. I realize that dramas have to have villains, and while I don't know if NY is the most annoying villain I've seen--e.g. the FL's mother in Beauty and Mr. Romantic might be worse, and in some ways NY's mother is even more annoying--but I agree that her motivations aren't very interesting, or even her villainous plots/actions aren't very interesting. But of course watching the villain's demise/punishment is one of the reasons why I watch these long dramas, so I am looking forward to seeing NY be fully revealed for who she is.

I think I'll watch it just to spite the self-righteous CSW haters. :-)

I like long family dramas and I don't usually mind the crazy makjang stuff. But I'm dropping this after 52 episodes because it's hopeless. I kept thinking that it'll start to get interesting, that it'll start to make sense, but nope, I've wasted enough time. I can't think of a show I've watched that's worse than this. Nothing makes sense: events don't seem connected, people seem to do things randomly. No dialogue is interesting. There's no chemistry between anyone; I have no idea why anyone is romantically interested in anyone. Hardly anyone is likeable. Just a total mess. Every actor/actress has to be regretting being a part of this terribly written show. Anyone who watches 120 episodes of this has to be a masochist.

So women don't snore, steal the covers or misplace the hotel key? Those are incredibly petty reasons for avoiding men. Are you somehow Miss Perfect who doesn't have any traits that a man (or woman) might find annoying? What lack of self-awareness and pride! As a man, I have to say thank you for doing us a favor by staying away from us.

So women don't snore, steal the covers or misplace the hotel key? Those are incredibly petty reasons for avoiding men. Are you somehow Miss Perfect who doesn't have any traits that a man (or woman) might find annoying? What lack of self-awareness and pride! As a man, I have to say thank you for doing us a favor by staying away from us.