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I might just watch it, because I don't think you know what would interest me. I don't mind uncomfortable topics at all. Try Satyricon for a masterpiece of this kind, albeit from a totally different age in cinema.

Huh? It's clearly badly written and inconsistent. You can say what you want, but the character development is just poor. I don't care whether something resonates with me or not. I watched many, many movies / series that I have no connection with, but are written well. That you can't see that it's just a hodge-podge of disconnected scenarios that seem to veer towards melodrama is fine with me, but you don't have to say my critique makes no sense. I'm sure you like this series for some reason, and that's fine. For me, I just am certain it is not good. It's pretentious nonsense, and emphasizes most of the worst aspects of gay culture - and those things do exist, but those things could be brought out much better than this. My point was that this is just bad writing. I'm surprised you don't see any of that.

It is not the same as other rom-com's at all. That is why most of us liked it. It depends on how many episodes you have gotten into the series. You need to at least get to episode 5-6. The level of communication that the mains, and their friends have is excellent and is way beyond the other rom-com's. There is no episode 11 debacle, and there are no long drawn out conflicts based on misunderstandings. The chemistry between the mains is also near the best I've ever seen. It's a production that watches most of the details and you would appreciate it if you got further into the story.

Definitely! It’s all subjective. I really loved ThamePo but for totally different reasons. It was about the mains going after their dreams as much as about the relationship.

I apologize for the comparison because I really enjoyed ThamePo. Perhaps I should have picked one of the dozens of other BL's, especially those set in a university that would have brought out my point more effectively. I just happened to finish that series. I'm just talking about the lack of communication, and stiffness of the mains that is common in BL's and I could have picked much better examples.

Honestly, I've never seen a score bounce around so much. It feels like something is going on behind the scenes. The main thing is that it's really solidified at #9, so it doesn't really matter that much

Even though it dropped back to 9.0, this show is still #9 among top shows. It's really holding its place for the most part.

I really liked it, but what I'm saying is still true. It's just my opinion, of course. There are some things in ThamePo that are really excellent that are as good or better than DWY. They also deal with different subjects, so one can enjoy both without having to choose between them

I just watched another BL ThamePo (I've stopped watching BL's over the past three years so I'm catching up). It just made me confirm my feelings for Duang With You and why it's so special. The romance definitely feels more real, and the communication and emotional intelligence is far superior in DWY. If anyone has watched ThamePo, tell me what you think. For one, the interactions between the mains in that show seemed pretty canned, and a little limp. I still enjoyed ThamePo, but DWY is special because it just goes so much further, on to a new level that most of these other BL's just don't reach. It doesn't take a lot of NC scenes, but a lot of little things like the nose cuddling, the sincere seeming looks of affection during their love-making, or even the sultry looks between them. The communication is so refreshing in this series and you're going to miss it when you go back to your other BL's where pointless misunderstandings are everywhere. There is very little emotional intelligence as well. There's a scene in ThamePo when Thame is watching a movie with Po in his house and he's about to kiss him, and then he just suddenly leaves. He doesn't even realize he was about to make out with Po - it's like he has amnesia. His friends ask him the next day why he didn't sleep with Po that night (like any typical teenager would have done in that situation), and he's like totally clueless. I mean it's your typical BL writing and it drives you crazy watching it. It takes you out of the story and out of the romance. I'm not just picking on this one show, either. It's like in virtually all the BL's so people shouldn't pick on the rating for DWY - it's well deserved. The writers and the director worked on the details episode by episode, clearing out the typical detritus. This is what these guys are missing that come on here and make these comments about the weak plot, and Duang's childish, over the top antics.

I'm with you. I get how others couldn't overcome Duang's over-the-top antics, and it clouded their ability to see what you and I saw. I've been saying that their acting was great from the first few episodes, and that Teetee was one of the few BL actors that had any comedic talent. It's seemed like he had perfect comedic timing. Por was just excellent playing the ice prince. That's the contrast that was there from the beginning that got us interested.

I'm a very light critic of gay dramas. It takes a lot for me to dislike a drama. This is just full of melodrama, and portrays gay people in a bad light. You're not missing anything - you just saved yourself 7 hours of your life

Wait till episode 5-6. Duang changes, and definitely has another side to his character. This is what a lot of people were saying when the series started, and they're the one's complimenting it now. Don't give up just yet.

BTW you have to look under top shows under the explore menu to find the rankings.

Wow, ranked 9 among thousands of dramas on kisskh, and definitely #1 among all BL's. Congratulations to everyone involved! I really hope for a Season 2. There's already another novel following Duang With You (Not the Best, But Still So Good), so they have the source material. At least it's possible.

That was terrible. I'm not sure why anyone is rating this above a 5, but it doesn't deserve anything better. It's a totally inconsistent mess. I don't even know what it is. I guess it would be a slice of life drama with pretentions of an artistic indie film, but it never achieves anything, or defines itself.

Who is this main character? Is he a literary genius, because winning the Dublin prize means he's one of the world's best authors, and he would have legions of admirers. No, in this slop of a screenplay, he's just supposed to be an ordinary guy that can't hold down a job. Is he a kind, caring friend and partner? I'm not sure, sometimes he is and sometimes he's totally cruel, and apathetic. Is Gyu Ho a really devoted partner? He just leaves and never comes back, leaving a message at the bar he used to work at for his partner. I really don't think they meant to portray him that way. It's just that they don't know what they are doing. This is a show about nothing because they never decided who the characters are, keeping their motivations and actions completely inconsistent.

It's long and drawn out. It's so disjointed going from one disconnected relationship to another, with an endless stream of drunken revelries intermixed between. It felt like the series lasted for 100 hours because we were just waiting for anything to tie together and make sense.

There's a lot of melodrama that's just plain depressing. There is a suicide attempt that had no meaning - why try to kill yourself over a total fraud. There's a lot of sexual assaults that make one question if the main character is a sociopath, or worse. Even the sober first lover acts like a sociopathic stalker, and probably dies because of a love for someone he hardly got to know. The friends of Ko Yeoung are ok, and are supportive but they seem to have nothing on their minds other than the size of men's penises. The father is definitely a sociopath, and the mom is a homophobic Christian fanatic that sent her son to a conversion therapy camp. Is everyone in this drama mentally ill? This is really unhealthy to watch.

What is with all the flashbacks at the end? We've already established Gyu Ho and Ko Yeoung have moved on, but this was the one relationship that was almost real - is that what they're saying? My question is, so what?

Also, it just makes no sense to end it with fireworks like this was a celebration of life or something. Ugh! This was a waste of time. It was meaningless and depressing. You'll need some therapy after it's over.

Oh, I misread that, lol. What's number 2 then?

What's number 1? You can't leave us hanging 😊

It's because it is very comforting and well-acted. I like all sorts of BL's equally for different reasons like ITSAY, Moonlight Chicken, and I Feel You Linger in the Air. I think, even as I said, escapism and comfort are the primary things most of us go to watch BL's for, there is nothing wrong with liking them for various other reasons.

Thank you!!!

Do you have a link for the novel? I've lost it somehow, lol