I've finished ep4 just now and so far I really like this series. Only thing that's bothering me a little are the…
OMG! I thought I was the only one shipping Tai with Lomfon! I feel their chemistry more when they were smiling at each other. Phat and Tai's connection seemed force. I know Tai and Lomfon won't be endgame but oh well, cheers to morsels and crumbs.
I may be in the minority but I think this is way better than "I will knock you" or even "Boss & Babe" that everyone is raving about. But each to their own.
What a disappointment! The trailer looked promising but the drama did not do it justice. The use of fake-marriage slash noona romance trope was wasted on this one. There a very few things I liked - and they mostly involved the lawyer-y stuff, but the rest is abysmal. What I liked: Though Yang Hua's mother is meddlesome, her uncanny ways of trying to outwit his son I find quite funny. And even more funny is how Qin Shi manages to foil the traps laid out by Mrs. Yang. I also liked the friendship between Yang Hua and Cai Liang, how odd their dynamic is, especially when Cai Liang tries to give the emotionally-stunted Yang Hua some relationship advice. How the rivalry between Li Dai and Qin Shi turned out to be a mutual understanding of each other's ambitious dreams.
And there are the things that I didn't like: How Mei Mei is such a pushover to keep going back to her cheating scumbag of a husband. How annoying Wu Fei turned out to be. How Tang Yi manipulates Qin Shi despite being her employer/friend, just so Qin Shi could be her little lap dog. How the drama throws in so many conflicts that are conveniently resolved. Or unresolved. How the show tried to solve all life's philosophical questions by jamming in so much rhetoric about inequality, fairness, justice, relationship, you name it, they talked about it enough to fill up a year's worth of Sunday sermons. How incredulous that a top law agency would solicit somebody's husband as an expert without vetting his credentials, and as if Yang Hua was the only available source for financial advice. How Qin Shi's lies about her marital status weren't exposed sooner, even with such glaring inconsistencies. How the drama had so many filler scenes and dragged so long that I am glad that they invented the Fast Forward button on the remote, which I certainly put to good use while watching this trainwreck.
I'm so glad I didn't listen to the negative comments! I LOVED this! who cares about the kisses! for a character…
I totally agree! I almost didn't watch this show but good thing I ignored the rating! Hot sex scenes or steamy kisses don't necessarily make a good BL. SMH.
Who wants to watch another Gender-bender drama? Me, that's who! Although I keep thinking how in the world do the females they cast pass as males is beyond me, but I digress. I admit I watched this show mainly for Zhang Ling He as he was really good in LBFAD. I've seen Sebrina before in "My Unicorn Girl" and she is definitely better here, as in she shows a little bit more personality.
Drama-wise, I must say that I liked the mystery-solving here so much better than the forced romance. Although there's a lot of skinship between the ML & FL, I didn't feel their chemistry. It looks like they are just going through the motions (especially on the FL's part). The secondary couple was worse and their acting quite atrocious. But aside from this, the plot isn't that convoluted and easy to follow (so easy in fact to guess who the suspects are right from the get-go).
The drama also tries to convince you that the evidence they produce aren't purposefully planted that only their merry band of investigators could find them. You would have to suspend your disbelief as well that the Prince walking around as freely as he pleases without much anyone recognizing him is possible. Aside from these convenient loop holes, this drama was a decent watch.
The drama started out strong until it fizzled out halfway that even my favorite actress Zhao Lu Si cannot save it. Liu Te as Ling Yue was interesting in the beginning as the domineering CEO until his love-sickness for An Xin just took away his personality and expressions along with it. The rest of the characters didn't fare better as they are so one-dimensional that you can print out their cardboards. Xin Er in particular was grating on my nerves, the cliché SML who doesn't know when to give up. Not different from the clingy SML are the stalky, obsessive brothers who come across as desperate while courting the objects of their affection.
I fast forwarded the last half of the show, and even the plot twist seemed forced and came out of left field, inserted only for the sake of a last hurrah. The attempt failed as I didn't care much about the characters. The drama had a lot of unnecessary fillers and could have been finished in half the length.
we don't know 😭but I think for the untamed they did it well with the censorship...for example in word of honor…
Xi Jin Ping is an extreme socialist. He believes that all the restrictions his governments is putting in place is for the greater good. He wants to build a "wholesome" country and that includes curbing people's freedom so they can follow ONLY his ideology. He largely believes that all these ideas, including homosexuality, drinking, gaming etc. are unhealthy influences coming from the West. To allow people freedom of thought and expression, is to allow their citizens to think for themselves and may lead to rebellion.
At this point, it looks like Xi Jin Ping is on track to become China's president for life as he can be "elected" every five years with no limits since he abolished presidential term limits once he was in power. So unless he has a change of heart, those restrictions will remain in place.
we don't know 😭but I think for the untamed they did it well with the censorship...for example in word of honor…
Look what happened to JITD when Youku tried to release it "quietly" without promotion. They thought they can get away with it and now it's been in limbo since February.
we don't know 😭but I think for the untamed they did it well with the censorship...for example in word of honor…
China has banned a lot of things, including depictions of homosexuality ever since Xi Jin Ping was in power. But they just expanded lately to include more and more things, like they are banning celebrities showing excessive wealth, idol culture, effeminate men, shows that are too entertaining, etc etc.
As long as Xi Jin Ping is in power, and the ban still in place, I don't see any of these danmei adaptations happening soon. Unless they totally make these adaptations into Hetero romance, Or if they heavily modify the drama to exclude any type or indication of a "socialist brotherhood", these adaptations are not going to air.
Production looks like finished for this for quite a while now, and either the production company has abandoned the project or currently editing the content to pass Chinese censorship. They also would need sponsors to air this and not even sure whether the original sponsors are still backing this project up.
When The Untamed, WOH etc have been popular and making money, they might be on board, but you never know if they want to risk being "punished" by the Chinese govt for a drama that may not even see the light of day. The only other possibility for this to air is whether fans of danmei will still be able to accept a watered-down, heteronormative version of the original novel. If so, then hopefully censors will overlook the source material and treat the show as its own creative work, so this will get passed and released and the efforts of the cast and crew will not be in vain. Otherwise, this will be stuck in production hell for goodness knows how long.
we don't know 😭but I think for the untamed they did it well with the censorship...for example in word of honor…
It's not that WOH and The Untamed passed censorship, per se, but the ban was in effect beginning of January 2022. And both WOH and the Untamed were released before the ban took place. The ban is for all works that are based on BL novels, regardless whether hinting or not. They would have to change the whole storyline, characters etc, and remove themselves from being called a BL adaptation to be able to release the drama.
A lot of people thought that since "A League of Nobleman" was released that the ban has been lifted. But according to the author, her book is NOT a BL romance but a detective fiction novel, so the ban on danmei adaptation does not apply.
Im verry verry confuse about one mobile number one mobile phone same person contact.. how could he not notice…
Actually, no. The fake veronica park and the secretary have 2 different phones. She used her sister's phone as the fake veronica park's number. Gal Hui was about to cancel her sister's subscription when Nam Hui left but somehow did not up cancelling that number. So that's the one she gave Do Min Ik as the fake Veronica's number.
This is basically a poor man's version of "A Business Proposal." Though the premise is more or less the same,…
1) The Fall. I am surprised that Do Min Ik did not split his head open while he fell from a good height (on his head!). The chances of surviving this fall is slim to none without major injuries. I get it that he dislodged the pin that made facial recognition possible, but that is all. No bandage wrapping around his head, no broken bones, how is it possible??
2) The Box Cutter. How lame it is that the person who tried to hurt Do Min Ik and others uses the same weapon multiple times??? There was blood on it, dude! How can you use the same damn thing?? Might as well put a sticker on it, "Property of this Idiot."
3) The USB File. I guess everybody has the same USB that could be mistaken easily, that it is a wonder how confidential documents are kept. You can have cat videos and accounts of extortion in the same damn device and people can just take it or leave it or throw it as they please
4) Dubious Company policies. It must be some poor HR screening policy that allows people who were once fired, to be employed again. Do they not keep some records? Won't there be more questions why you are coming back to work?
5) The Police. Clearly they have nothing else to do but to solve this one case of non-murder. They are so easily swayed by statements made by their suspects that it will be surprising if they caught anybody. Hint: they did not. The idiot in #2 turned himself in.
And the best of all:
6) The Cast. I mean the cast on fake Veronica's arm. I mean Do Min Ik may not be able to see faces, but a glaringly obvious green cast with a heart he drew on Gal Hui's cast. In what world would she be able to explain that away??? Even if her cover was not blown earlier in the night, she would be caught green-handed.
This is basically a poor man's version of "A Business Proposal." Though the premise is more or less the same, one thing I did not like here was how Gal Hui took advantage of her boss' illness to dupe him into believing she was somebody else. Overlooking this fact, the rest of the drama is cute and funny, and sometimes heartbreaking. I can't believe I enjoyed this drama more than I should, despite it's many loopholes. To name a few in the reply below marked as spoiler.
There are too many coincidences in this drama to make me believe in logical thinking, but if I switch my brain off, and overlook these inconsistencies, the drama teaches you to open your heart to possibilities and be more human.
I almost passed on this drama because I thought it would be gory and senseless like "My Name," which I dropped, but I'm glad I didn't. Although I did not find this "super amazing" like most people, The Glory, as a story of revenge and redemption, was quite good. I had trouble stomaching the violence that was shown in the first few episodes, and the scenes where Moon Dong Eun was subjected to a curling iron, but this made me so angry that I really wanted to see the comeuppance due to the perpetrators.
Song Hye Kyo is great as the long-suffering victim who is intent on bringing hell on Park Yeon In and her band of bullies. It was oddly satisfying to see how the FL calculates through her revenge plot, not by directly going after the bullies, but by infiltrating those who are around them for years. We see Dong Eun's practiced patience as she waits for opportunities like she does in the game of Go. But sometimes, this waiting gives way to frustration, especially when her plans are thwarted by the very people who are supposed to have your back (ahem, your mother-phuker).
As a thriller, melodrama, The Glory delivers, but if you are expecting romance, it falls flat. Despite the presence of Lee Do Hyun as a romantic partner for Song Hye Kyo's character, Joo Yeo Jung is at most a love-sick puppy following after the woman of his dreams. They are only lumped together for convenience's sake and their kiss was underwhelming. Moon Dong Eun had better chemistry with Yeon Jin's husband, Ha Do Young, but of course, the plotline won't allow such a scandalous pairing. In the end, the perpetrators' supposedly got their just deserts, but I can't help feeling that somewhere down the line, the vicious cycle of revenge will continue again.
I almost passed on this drama because I thought it would be gory and senseless like "My Name," which I dropped, but I'm glad I didn't. Although I did not find this "super amazing" like most people, The Glory, as a story of revenge and redemption, was quite good. I had trouble stomaching the violence that was shown in the first few episodes, and the scenes where Moon Dong Eun was subjected to a curling iron, but this made me so angry that I really wanted to see the comeuppance due to the perpetrators.
Song Hye Kyo is great as the long-suffering victim who is intent on bringing hell on Park Yeon In and her band of bullies. It was oddly satisfying to see how the FL calculates through her revenge plot, not by directly going after the bullies, but by infiltrating those who are around them for years. We see Dong Eun's practiced patience as she waits for opportunities like she does in the game of Go. But sometimes, this waiting gives way to frustration, especially when her plans are thwarted by the very people who are supposed to have your back (ahem, your mother-phuker).
As a thriller, melodrama, The Glory delivers, but if you are expecting romance, it falls flat. Despite the presence of Lee Do Hyun as a romantic partner for Song Hye Kyo's character, Joo Yeo Jung is at most a love-sick puppy following after the woman of his dreams. They are only lumped together for convenience's sake and their kiss was underwhelming. Moon Dong Eun had better chemistry with Yeon Jin's husband, Ha Do Young, but of course, the plotline won't allow such a scandalous pairing. In the end, the perpetrators' supposedly got their just deserts, but I can't help feeling that somewhere down the line, the vicious cycle of revenge will continue again.
And there are the things that I didn't like: How Mei Mei is such a pushover to keep going back to her cheating scumbag of a husband. How annoying Wu Fei turned out to be. How Tang Yi manipulates Qin Shi despite being her employer/friend, just so Qin Shi could be her little lap dog. How the drama throws in so many conflicts that are conveniently resolved. Or unresolved. How the show tried to solve all life's philosophical questions by jamming in so much rhetoric about inequality, fairness, justice, relationship, you name it, they talked about it enough to fill up a year's worth of Sunday sermons. How incredulous that a top law agency would solicit somebody's husband as an expert without vetting his credentials, and as if Yang Hua was the only available source for financial advice. How Qin Shi's lies about her marital status weren't exposed sooner, even with such glaring inconsistencies. How the drama had so many filler scenes and dragged so long that I am glad that they invented the Fast Forward button on the remote, which I certainly put to good use while watching this trainwreck.
Drama-wise, I must say that I liked the mystery-solving here so much better than the forced romance. Although there's a lot of skinship between the ML & FL, I didn't feel their chemistry. It looks like they are just going through the motions (especially on the FL's part). The secondary couple was worse and their acting quite atrocious. But aside from this, the plot isn't that convoluted and easy to follow (so easy in fact to guess who the suspects are right from the get-go).
The drama also tries to convince you that the evidence they produce aren't purposefully planted that only their merry band of investigators could find them. You would have to suspend your disbelief as well that the Prince walking around as freely as he pleases without much anyone recognizing him is possible. Aside from these convenient loop holes, this drama was a decent watch.
I fast forwarded the last half of the show, and even the plot twist seemed forced and came out of left field, inserted only for the sake of a last hurrah. The attempt failed as I didn't care much about the characters. The drama had a lot of unnecessary fillers and could have been finished in half the length.
At this point, it looks like Xi Jin Ping is on track to become China's president for life as he can be "elected" every five years with no limits since he abolished presidential term limits once he was in power. So unless he has a change of heart, those restrictions will remain in place.
https://qz.com/630159/chinas-new-television-rules-ban-homosexuality-drinking-and-vengeance
Expansion of that ban, to include BL adaptations:
https://38jiejie.com/2022/01/08/beijing-government-calls-for-full-stop-on-idol-variety-shows-and-danmei-adaptation-films-and-dramas/
As long as Xi Jin Ping is in power, and the ban still in place, I don't see any of these danmei adaptations happening soon. Unless they totally make these adaptations into Hetero romance, Or if they heavily modify the drama to exclude any type or indication of a "socialist brotherhood", these adaptations are not going to air.
Production looks like finished for this for quite a while now, and either the production company has abandoned the project or currently editing the content to pass Chinese censorship. They also would need sponsors to air this and not even sure whether the original sponsors are still backing this project up.
When The Untamed, WOH etc have been popular and making money, they might be on board, but you never know if they want to risk being "punished" by the Chinese govt for a drama that may not even see the light of day. The only other possibility for this to air is whether fans of danmei will still be able to accept a watered-down, heteronormative version of the original novel. If so, then hopefully censors will overlook the source material and treat the show as its own creative work, so this will get passed and released and the efforts of the cast and crew will not be in vain. Otherwise, this will be stuck in production hell for goodness knows how long.
A lot of people thought that since "A League of Nobleman" was released that the ban has been lifted. But according to the author, her book is NOT a BL romance but a detective fiction novel, so the ban on danmei adaptation does not apply.
https://38jiejie.com/2021/06/26/author-clarifies-her-novel-used-for-league-of-nobleman-bl-drama-adaptation-doesnt-contain-romance/
Also in the ALON drama, they made sure to mention that one of the MCs has a wife and kid (although not shown) to satisfy the censors.
2) The Box Cutter. How lame it is that the person who tried to hurt Do Min Ik and others uses the same weapon multiple times??? There was blood on it, dude! How can you use the same damn thing?? Might as well put a sticker on it, "Property of this Idiot."
3) The USB File. I guess everybody has the same USB that could be mistaken easily, that it is a wonder how confidential documents are kept. You can have cat videos and accounts of extortion in the same damn device and people can just take it or leave it or throw it as they please
4) Dubious Company policies. It must be some poor HR screening policy that allows people who were once fired, to be employed again. Do they not keep some records? Won't there be more questions why you are coming back to work?
5) The Police. Clearly they have nothing else to do but to solve this one case of non-murder. They are so easily swayed by statements made by their suspects that it will be surprising if they caught anybody. Hint: they did not. The idiot in #2 turned himself in.
And the best of all:
6) The Cast. I mean the cast on fake Veronica's arm. I mean Do Min Ik may not be able to see faces, but a glaringly obvious green cast with a heart he drew on Gal Hui's cast. In what world would she be able to explain that away??? Even if her cover was not blown earlier in the night, she would be caught green-handed.
There are too many coincidences in this drama to make me believe in logical thinking, but if I switch my brain off, and overlook these inconsistencies, the drama teaches you to open your heart to possibilities and be more human.
I almost passed on this drama because I thought it would be gory and senseless like "My Name," which I dropped, but I'm glad I didn't. Although I did not find this "super amazing" like most people, The Glory, as a story of revenge and redemption, was quite good. I had trouble stomaching the violence that was shown in the first few episodes, and the scenes where Moon Dong Eun was subjected to a curling iron, but this made me so angry that I really wanted to see the comeuppance due to the perpetrators.
Song Hye Kyo is great as the long-suffering victim who is intent on bringing hell on Park Yeon In and her band of bullies. It was oddly satisfying to see how the FL calculates through her revenge plot, not by directly going after the bullies, but by infiltrating those who are around them for years. We see Dong Eun's practiced patience as she waits for opportunities like she does in the game of Go. But sometimes, this waiting gives way to frustration, especially when her plans are thwarted by the very people who are supposed to have your back (ahem, your mother-phuker).
As a thriller, melodrama, The Glory delivers, but if you are expecting romance, it falls flat. Despite the presence of Lee Do Hyun as a romantic partner for Song Hye Kyo's character, Joo Yeo Jung is at most a love-sick puppy following after the woman of his dreams. They are only lumped together for convenience's sake and their kiss was underwhelming. Moon Dong Eun had better chemistry with Yeon Jin's husband, Ha Do Young, but of course, the plotline won't allow such a scandalous pairing. In the end, the perpetrators' supposedly got their just deserts, but I can't help feeling that somewhere down the line, the vicious cycle of revenge will continue again.
I almost passed on this drama because I thought it would be gory and senseless like "My Name," which I dropped, but I'm glad I didn't. Although I did not find this "super amazing" like most people, The Glory, as a story of revenge and redemption, was quite good. I had trouble stomaching the violence that was shown in the first few episodes, and the scenes where Moon Dong Eun was subjected to a curling iron, but this made me so angry that I really wanted to see the comeuppance due to the perpetrators.
Song Hye Kyo is great as the long-suffering victim who is intent on bringing hell on Park Yeon In and her band of bullies. It was oddly satisfying to see how the FL calculates through her revenge plot, not by directly going after the bullies, but by infiltrating those who are around them for years. We see Dong Eun's practiced patience as she waits for opportunities like she does in the game of Go. But sometimes, this waiting gives way to frustration, especially when her plans are thwarted by the very people who are supposed to have your back (ahem, your mother-phuker).
As a thriller, melodrama, The Glory delivers, but if you are expecting romance, it falls flat. Despite the presence of Lee Do Hyun as a romantic partner for Song Hye Kyo's character, Joo Yeo Jung is at most a love-sick puppy following after the woman of his dreams. They are only lumped together for convenience's sake and their kiss was underwhelming. Moon Dong Eun had better chemistry with Yeon Jin's husband, Ha Do Young, but of course, the plotline won't allow such a scandalous pairing. In the end, the perpetrators' supposedly got their just deserts, but I can't help feeling that somewhere down the line, the vicious cycle of revenge will continue again.