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Replying to liddi Sep 8, 2023
I don't recall it being specifically mentioned in the drama, but based on the novel:The three royal families…
Not exactly a conquered king. Maybe a conquered secondary prince. He is a descendant of the Sheng Nong royal family, but his father (Feng Long's grandfather) was a "hero" (who basically commits war crimes while pursuing Qi Yo at the beginning of Once Promised...) of the Sheng Nong Kingdom. Not a Flame Emperor.

Later on, Qi Yo, Gong Gong, and Zhu Rong (Feng Long's grandfather) were the three greatest generals of the Sheng Nong Kingdom.

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From chapter 22:

Xiang Liu said “.... Back then, the Flame Emperor was still alive and the Sheng Nong Kingdom hadn’t yet been toppled. My adoptive father, along with Qi Yo and Zhu Rong, were the three greatest generals of the Sheng Nong Kingdom..."
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Replying to liddi Sep 8, 2023
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I don't recall it being specifically mentioned in the drama, but based on the novel:The three royal families…
"...it still seems unusual that only Fenglong's father and the rest of the clan leaders were kneeling before the Xiyan king, while the clan leaders of the four great famiies did not. By right, all should be bowing down while petitioning the king. Not sure if it is a production oversight, or deliberate to reflect the position of the four leaders to the viewers."

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Leaders of the Four Great Clans only have to bow at the waist to greet the Emperor. This is how it's put in chapter 36:

Jing was the Tu Shan clan leader and when he saw the Yellow Emperor or the Grand Emperor he only needed to bow at the waist, yet he was giving a full on the floor bow right now to the Grand Emperor.

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But everyone fully bows to the Yellow Emperor and to ZX after the Yellow Emperor passes the throne to ZX in chapter 28:

No one announced a bow and by now the Yellow Emperor had removed his crown, but as he passed everyone knelt down and lowered their heads, willingly bowing to this weak old man.

It was the first time all the men standing at the peak of their own power bowed to him not because of his greater power but because they so respected him.

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Until the Yellow Emperor completely vanished from sight did everyone stand back up. It was dead silent on and below the prayer altar.

No one could believe that there wasn’t a blood bath or interminable wait and suddenly Zhuan Xu assumed the throne just like that? But Zhuan Xu was standing right before them and staring calming down at them. Was this young Emperor really like the Yellow Emperor said? Could he bring so much to lead a kingdom to greater heights and write its own glorious new pages in history?

It wasn’t clear who knelt down first but soon everyone was on their knees and chanting “Felicitations to Your majesty!”

Zhuan Xu waved his hand “Everyone rise.”

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The exact wording about the families in chapter 5:

“Below the Three Imperial Families, on the top of the pecking order are the Four Great Clans – the Chi Shui family, the Xi Ling family, the Tu Shan family, and the Gui Fang family. Other than the Four Great Clans, in the Middles Plans are the Six Big Families. And below the Six Big Families are various moderately powerful smaller clans such as the Jin Tian family to the South, the Fang Feng family to the North….. But none of them can compare to the Four Great Clans.”
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Replying to 9lives Sep 8, 2023
It's my understanding that there are still quite a few moments to look forward to. AH can provide you with all…
I've had the tabs open for weeks and revisit them daily ^^"
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Replying to 9lives Sep 8, 2023
It's my understanding that there are still quite a few moments to look forward to. AH can provide you with all…
Thank you nathsketch
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Replying to 9lives Sep 8, 2023
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It's my understanding that there are still quite a few moments to look forward to. AH can provide you with all…
Given the ratio of episodes to remaining chapters, there will definitely be some cuts. I believe some of those cuts will include certain XL scenes in part because of comments from other users about a script for S2 that allegedly leaked. Take stuff like that with a grain of salt of course, but right now I'm erring on the side of believing that one. Based on those comments, XL's scenes are not the only ones that will be cut or significantly changed.

As for the watering down... there are at least three types of things that I expect may be be watered down or not depicted to the extent that I would like: (1) physically intimate moments; (2) particularly harsh / intense moments; and (3) scenes that are difficult or expensive to depict in a drama setting (e.g., long scenes that focus on details with little action, minute details, details that would require a lot of CGI, scenes that seem okay when you read them and the author can include certain types of details but that seem really creepy when depicted on screen, etc.).

Physical Intimacy. Based on comments about the leaked script, I am expecting that one blood-transfusion kiss scene (from chapter 48) is going to be cut. Apart from that, there's the blink-and-you'll-miss-it forehead kiss from chapter 35, but I'm mainly thinking of all the contact they have in chapter 43. If it's not cut, I think that physical intimacy will be heavily watered down based on how the drama translated (or chose not to translate) scenes with physical intimacy between them from the first 28 chapters. Like some of the bites, the times when XL transferred air to WXL while she was conscious and totally fine with it, and the 37 years of healing.

Harsh / Intense Moments. Based on comments about the leaked script, the drama will be making big changes to CX's harshest moments (by turning them into a dream sequence). I would not be at all surprised if the drama also softened or removed XL's harshest moments. In particular, I'm thinking of chapter 46 when XL pushes XY to cut ties with him. One of the harshest things that XL does to XY is connected to something that XL does for TSJ (but really for XY). But apparently in the leaked script XL no longer does that thing for TSJ. So that part of the original scene will either be different or cut.

Scenes / Details that are Difficult or Expensive to Show. This is speculation, but some of the things that have been cut in S1 (and in S2 based on the leaked script) were likely cut partly because they would require more expensive CGI. Things like TSJ's crane and Sir Bi. I feel like they might do the same for certain XL-related details, especially stuff from chapter 43 like the whirlpool and the seagull demon. They also cut certain XL/XY scenes in S1 that would have required time to show properly on screen, with very little actually happening (e.g., when the novel describes XL visiting XY occasionally in chapter 2). I feel like there might be similar difficulties with depicting all the time, effort and attention to detail that XL and XY each put into the gifts they exchange, as an example. I'm also worried they won't fully show us the donkey-meat-selling old man (who provides a lot of insight into XL's mindset) or XY's relationship with Left Ear (who acts like a proxy for XL and who XY views as someone who is perhaps like XL when he was young / someone who could become like XL one day). Because those things would require time that they don't have given the episode count.
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Replying to 9lives Sep 7, 2023
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It's my understanding that there are still quite a few moments to look forward to. AH can provide you with all…
I'm travelling so this is the short version of my answer ^^

S1 told the story from the novel up to chapter 28. Between chapter 29 and chapter 51 (the last chapter), there are quite a few chapters where XL and XY have very little interaction or no interaction at all, and some chapters where there are significant interactions (like chapters 31, 35 and 37) and chapters that are almost entirely dedicated to their interactions, relationship or feelings about each other (like chapters 32, 43, 46, 48, 51 and XL's epilogue).

But I am expecting that a lot of those scenes will be cut or watered down in S2.

Edit: Updated to add details.
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Replying to MTH123 Sep 7, 2023
Tong Hua tends to write tragedies. But, this one has a happy ending for the FL.
I've seen a few partial translations of the 2013 version. But no complete translations of either version. Maybe someone will be inspired by the drama to finally complete a translation. Hopefully of the 2019 version since Tong Hua felt so strongly that changes needed to be made to the 2013 version.
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Replying to Elise Sep 7, 2023
At the end of season 1, she got engaged to Feng Long.At the end of the story, she ends up with Jing and marries…
You're welcome. Enjoy! ^^
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Replying to MTH123 Sep 6, 2023
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Tong Hua tends to write tragedies. But, this one has a happy ending for the FL.
Please use the spoiler tag for comments about the ending.

In the main two Tong Hua novels / drama adaptations I'm familiar with, the FL and her main love interest ride off into the sunset and get their happy ending while a devoted and exceptionally self-sacrificing secondary male lead has a tragic / bittersweet ending. So only partly tragic.

And then there's Once Promised... but I consider that the first half of a story that is completed by LYF.
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Replying to AH Sep 6, 2023
TSJ is part demon.---A deity can be a mortal human who achieved quasi-immortality / longevity through cultivation…
You're welcome ^^
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Replying to MyDearObsession Sep 6, 2023
How come Xiang Liu is the last one to arrive!? Or no where in the scene!?He is the supposed to have felt her pain…
You're welcome ^^

Yeah I forgot about the hair stroking tbh. It feels rather OOC for him.

The Grand Madam is absolutely obsessed. I cut some of her dialogue from the scene (she was lecturing him), but it was kind of satisfying that he just up and left in the middle of her lecture without saying anything.
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Replying to MyDearObsession Sep 6, 2023
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How come Xiang Liu is the last one to arrive!? Or no where in the scene!?He is the supposed to have felt her pain…
This is how the scene is portrayed in a flashback in chapter 50:

That night Zhuan Xu woke up again and got dressed before waking Xiao Yao. “Grandmother is near death.” He got her robe to dress her.

Xiao Yao was so sleepy she curled into the blanket. “It’s just a nightmare, I’ll sing to you.”

Zhuan Xu said, “Xiao Yao, be good! Stop sleeping and get dressed to go see Grandmother one last time so she doesn’t worry. In the future……” Zhuan Xu started crying...

Just as Xiao Yao got dressed Auntie Ju Li rushed into the room intending to wake the kids and was shocked to see them standing hand-in-hand by the door. She didn’t think more of it and grabbed them both. “We need to see Her Highness the Empress. Remember, whatever she says to you both, listen carefully and remember always.”

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This is ZX's reaction after XY's assassination in chapter 21:

Sheng Nong Mountain, Zhi Jin Summit. Inside a room, Zhuan Xu was sitting on the pallet with his back against the wall as Xiao Xiao was sprawled on his knee while he stroked her hair and listened with a lazy demeanor about the latest palace renovation update.

Suddenly Zhuan Xu felt his heart was jumbled and he almost couldn’t breathe. He pushed Xiao Xiao aside and stood up...

Zhuan Xu’s face was confused as he tried to remember, and then he remembered that when his father died tens of thousands of miles away, he had the same worry and confusion. Zhuan Xu’s entire demeanor changed and he said to Xiao Xiao, “You immediately bring people to Zhi Yi to find Xiao Yao and bring her to see me. No matter what happens you have to keep her safe.”

“Yes!” Xiao Xiao turned and left.

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And this is TSJ's reaction, also in chapter 21:

Qing Qiu, the Tu Shan clan residence. The Grand Madam was in a room with Jing, Yi Yang, Hou, Hou’s wife Lan Mu...

At that moment the satchel on Jing’s waist suddenly snapped and fell on the ground. Jing stared and then picked it up and felt an ominous feeling. Xiao Yao gave him this satchel! Jing’s face changed and he rushed out the door with nothing on his mind but one thought: Xiao Yao, he had to find Xiao Yao immediately...

The Grand Madam said “Something must’ve happened. Jing can sense it but doesn’t know exactly what it is... The true descendants of the Tu Shan clan bloodline possess this power. It cannot be described or explained but is a sensation of something big about to happen. From the ancient times until now, the Tu Shan clan leader may not have the strongest powers but we have become one of the most powerful clans because of this special ability which helps the clan avoid calamity.”

The Grand Madam glanced at Hou and then at the Nine-tailed fox drawing on the wall before saying, “Jing is destined to be the next clan leader!”
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Replying to MyDearObsession Sep 6, 2023
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How come Xiang Liu is the last one to arrive!? Or no where in the scene!?He is the supposed to have felt her pain…
TSJ has the ability to sense calamities, which (as Ari_Lee mentioned) is an ability that certain members of the Tu Shan clan are born with and which has helped save the clan in the past.

ZX has the ability to sense when one of his closest loved ones has died or is on the brink of death. He knew (without being told) when his grandmother was about to die and also when another family member died (I think it was his father, but I'd need to check to be sure).
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Replying to MyDearObsession Sep 6, 2023
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How come Xiang Liu is the last one to arrive!? Or no where in the scene!?He is the supposed to have felt her pain…
XL has to cover by far the furthest distance and Chubby can only fly so fast. TSJ, ZX and ZX's people have their own winged mounts.

When he gets close, XL needs to enter the heavily protected / fortified castle where ZX is keeping XY's body. Even if he switched mounts (which would take time) and changed his appearance, he would still be stopped and wouldn't be able to access the castle quickly.

So he faces it all head-on as XL - breaking barriers and single-handedly fighting all of the soldiers defending the castle. And while he's doing all of that, he's also trying to keep XY alive through the connection.
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Replying to PinkViolets Sep 6, 2023
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I'm watching this now and currently am on ep 20. Can somebody explain what's diffrerence between deities and demons?I…
TSJ is part demon.

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A deity can be a mortal human who achieved quasi-immortality / longevity through cultivation or the offspring of a deity.

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A demon is a plant spirit or an animal that trained and evolved enough to develop a human form and the same kinds of powers and quasi-immortality / longevity as a deity. Or the offspring of a demon. In rare cases, a deity can become a demon (e.g., XY's mother unleashes the power of the sun, incinerates her goddess spirit, and briefly turns into a demon before becoming something else).

Demons (like Left Ear) can safely eat raw meat, while deities (like XY) cannot.

Plant Spirits: XY and ZX's aunt (a wife of their eldest uncle) was a wood spirit. She ran a spy network and brought Jin Xuan to ZX. Jin Xuan was also a wood demon and was one of ZX's most loyal people. When XY and FFB spend time together, they visit shops owned by flower demons. In chapter 42, FFYY mentions a water grass demon.

Animals: The snake that XY encountered in the mountains hadn't achieved a human form yet, but it had evolved enough to understand human speech. Chubby is the same. When XY knew Ah Bi as a child, he was a winged fox who had not achieved a human form yet. When she meets him later in the novel, he had trained enough to gain a human form.

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Chapter 15:

“This should be the manifestation of Auntie Zhu Yu who was a dogwood wood spirit who gained human form after thousands of years. She chose to kill herself to destroy the demon soul and remove all her god powers...

When Eldest Uncle was alive, he built a vast information network that Auntie Zhu Yu ran. When he died, the network only listened to Auntie... About a hundred years ago she did bring Jin Xuan to Gao Xing to find me. She handed the network to me per Auntie’s orders before she left for battle. Jin Xuan is also a wood demon...

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Chapter 9:

Later I talked to a snake demon in training but it didn’t want to talk to me. I stole its egg so it would chase me every day to kill me. I would run and talk to it. It understood what I was saying but hadn’t developed the ability to talk yet so I would talk for it and converse with myself.

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Chapter 10:

"...Also Ah Bi has now evolved into human form and he is called Sir Bi so when you see him be respectful.”

Xiao Liu remembered her childhood on Jade Mountain. Lie Yang was a demon bird that looked like a phoenix. His human form was that of a ten year old boy but he didn’t like to take his human form... Ah Bi was a winged fox demon but had not yet trained to evolve into human form back then... After so many years apart, Ah Bi now had a human form...

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Chapter 12:

Xiao Liu knew the demons who achieved human form were very reluctant to transform into their true form in front of people. But Ah Bi willingly transformed back to his true form so that Xiao Liu wouldn’t feel distant.

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Chapter 5:

Demons were by nature wild and untamed, refusing to follow rules and authority, and definitely no desire for status.

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Chapter 7:

...demons and creatures and monsters were all in the same world...

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Tushan Clan members are part deity and part demon. They are descendants of a nine-tailed fox that was a mythical beast like a phoenix.

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Chapter 8:

Jing said, “The Tu Shan clan aren’t simply from the God tribe. One of our ancestors was the far-reaching original nine-tailed fox. So the bloodline of the Tu Shan family can all transform...”

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Chapter 34:

According to ancient legend, the nine-tailed fox was a godly creature like the phoenix, but it was also a vicious beast that can devour beings. The Tu Shan clan’s god was an ancient ancestor’s spiritual essence keeping watch over its descendants, and since Yi Yang was a goddess, her blood to feed to the clan god would be precious and greatly beneficial to the Tu Shan clan.

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Chapter 50:

Demon class barriers were strict and the nine-tailed fox was the king of the fox tribe. When Sir Bi was around Jing, he used his strong powers to tamp down the instinct to be subservient to Jing.

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Chapter 9:

Zhuan Xu was so angry that the anger even rubbed off on Shi Qi who carried the nine-tailed fox lineage.

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Chapter 33:

“My powers may not be as high as Xiang Liu, Feng Long and those top warriors in the vast wilderness, but I’m still a descendant of the nine-tailed fox. I learned my powers from childhood so it’s not low."

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Chapter 23:

The two elders placed a white nine-tailed fox lined coat around Jing which represented the king of the foxes and the Tu Shan clan being the ruler of the entire fox kingdom.

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Chapter 16:

“The Nine-tailed fox I killed, it wasn’t one of your relatives?”

“He probably was.” The Nine-tailed fox was very rare, and the few existing ones really were all relatives of the Tu Shan clan.

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Chapter 9:

“One day I met a man and he candidly admitted he was a demon... He hid me in a remote cave where he built a nest and a cage to raise me in. He said he was the Nine-tailed fox...”
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Replying to AH Sep 5, 2023
Okay spooky I did the same earlier today and had a very similar thought o . o
Literally going back and forth between the two atm.
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Replying to Ms Superman Sep 4, 2023
him beating her... whew chile. How are we coming back from that?
Fair enough. Although I wasn't going to get into his past. Just the context for their first interaction. If you want that.
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Replying to Ms Superman Sep 4, 2023
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him beating her... whew chile. How are we coming back from that?
By "beating", do you mean the lashings in the remnant army's camp? Do you want the context?
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Replying to MamaSnorlax Sep 4, 2023
Im rewatching love like the galaxy, episode 24; min 27 up and I’m imagining CX, TSJ, and XL having the same…
Okay spooky I did the same earlier today and had a very similar thought o . o
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