tomopiiro

YouTube members also get uncut version, but this time it had the wrong Eng subs for half a day

Very well put. I am one of those people that felt a bit uncomfortable by this episode, but at the end of the day, I won't really care that much because it is fiction after all. Do I wish it wasn't included? Sure, but it is what it is, and there's nothing I can do about it, and frankly, I don't really care that much about it. At most I'll objectively point out what happened in the scene and how it made me feel and just move on. Maybe vent about it to my friends if it's something that really bothers me, I guess, but that's about it. It usually won't ruin my enjoyment of a series.

That being said, I do still think that people should be able to say "that's assault" without others trying to downplay or justify it in some way. It doesn't necessarily mean we cannot separate reality and fiction, sometimes (like in my case) it's just an observation.
Screw the people making it a morality issue and projecting it onto others, though. You can like darker themes in fiction without it being a reflection of you.

Sorry for jumping in here, I just wanted to give my own perspective.

Was waiting for someone to say this. I know it's not that deep when it comes to this show, but even then, it did still make me a bit uncomfortable because at the end of the day it is still assault. Not gonna let that ruin my fun with the series, though, just pointing out my own feelings to one scene.

Idk dude, the comments there make me depressed, so I'm kind of staying away.

No, that's okay. I feel like I'm just gonna talk in circles atp😵‍💫 Thanks for letting me vent it out though! Hope you have a good rest of your day!

The point is that even though it's supposed to be metaphorical, there are people who take it literally. I said this in my first response to you when I said "people misunderstand what the curse actually means and why it is there in the first place." It's THOSE people that I am venting about. I'm watching another show atm that has more than 12 episodes, and people in the comments were, expectedly, talking about the "episode 11 curse" after episode 10, when that's just not how that works?? Sorry if I really didn't get that across until now, but that has been my stance the entire time, and I took out my frustrations about it in this thread.

Once again, I didn't mean to direct anything at you, so I hope you didn't take anything personally. I do still personally disagree with calling it a "curse", but if you want to continue calling it that, by all means, go ahead, I'm not gonna stop you.

But it's still intentional writing. Is writers inserting some conflict towards the end of a story in general a curse? No. Why is it specifically for Thai BLs when this is fairly commonplace in writing in general? Boiling it down to a "curse" that happens in "episode 11" and then complaining about said "curse" is dumb and diminishes the work actual writers put into writing it. It's not a curse, it's intentionally written to be that way, and if you don't vibe with it, that's cool.

I heard about "the curse" a while before I started watching Thai BLs and the way it was presented, I was expecting it to be something that just destroyed the entire show, and it wasn't until after I had watched /several/ Thai BLs that I realized they just meant some dumb conflict that got solved in usually one episode. Maybe that's on me for having those expectations in the first place, but my point still stands that this is a normal thing when it comes to writing in general.

That's what I mean! It doesn't work like that. It can't be a curse. That is my argument. If it was a curse, it would be something more objective, but there isn't, so it's not a curse. Does that make sense?

But it isn't "quite fitting". It doesn't even have anything to do with it being the penultimate episode either, it's literally just because it's nearing the end of the series. It could be anywhere in the last 3-ish episodes depending on how long they want the conflict to last. It's just writing, not a damn curse💀

As for this show, it's been a dumpster fire, so I'm sorry you were expecting more from it. However, when I said "something that ruins the entire show" I meant it more as an objective thing, and not subjective opinions. It should also be unintentional from the writers side, of which this is clearly intentional.

Your username is so real lmaoo

"He ABSOLUTELY kisses Khim back in the finale" and that's why I find it hilarious😂 Hell yes, let's save it for the finale!
Man, this show is a dumpster fire, but I still find some form of enjoyment in it because I keep coming back every week😔

I'm not a believer of the episode 11 curse. I understand them wanting to add conflict to the story before the end, so it's more of a penultimate episode thing than specifically episode 11. It's not a curse either, it's just the writers wanting to insert some more conflicts before they attempt to round it out for the finale. A curse would be something that in my opinion completely destroys the foundation on which the series was built and makes the entire show unwatchable even though that wasn't the intention of the writers. That would be a curse! Not just a silly conflict arc that is solved in one episode. Boiling it down to one specific episode number is also dumb in my opinion. Is it sometimes shoehorned in towards the end, yes, like in this case. But that doesn't mean it's not designed to be a conflict. Personally, in this case, I just found it incredibly funny.

Sorry, not meant as an attack on you or anything, I'm just tired of seeing people complain about the "11th episode curse" but also completely misunderstanding what it actually means and why it's there in the first place.
Feel free to ignore bc it's really not that deep, I'm just venting lol

The next-episode preview had me wheezing lmfao😂
I'm sorry, that was just too funny after everything that's happened💀

This isn't the last episode for the first couple though. I'm pretty sure we still get the kidnapping coming up and THEN they move onto Fuma-Kai. There's no way they'll skip the kidnapping.

"They just filled the time with sex scenes" weren't there like 5 scenes total + the special episode?

If I wanted this to be the Thai version, I'd just go watch the Thai version. Both versions can exist simultaneously. Yes a lot of it will be really similar because they both have the same source material.
For me I don't really mind either way, I'm just along for the ride, enjoying it for what it is and I'm having a good time so far.

Well, to be fair, Rei is supposed to be inexperienced, so it's anyone's guess if that was because of the actor or if that was just how he was directed to act during that scene.

I don't think it's time for Fuma-Kai just yet bc after Mr. Sore Loser loses the race, he kidnaps Rain, right? So I think that's what will happen next week and THEN we get Fuma-Kai in episode 6.

Not to mention some people just look younger, while others look older. It's a completely natural thing

I don't think they will skip it unfortunately, or there won't really be any drama in Arashi-Rei's story. They've already introduced the poor loser who can't take an L as well... not that I know his name though.