Anyone like me thinks this won't be better than NIF 1? :((((( I'm so pessimistic.
It is a fine drama IMO, both as a continuation of the NIF universe as Jay says and also as a standalone story by its own virtue. Of course if your expectation is for this to exceed the original (which the creators never promised nor purposely set out to made) then it may not delivered for you.
Summary of SFHY's life story in 3 sentences:SFHY: We're going to kill another tribe coz we need to survive and…
Not sure whether you missed the part where the women were shown all tied up and spared. From the Shuofeng clan's POV they are justified by taking back their ancestral homeland which is literally "green pasture and still waters". Such sentiments and controversies unfortunately also happened to people groups in our real world, both past and present.
Trivia: Xiao Ting Sheng and Xiao Jing Yan's son are the only two surviving characters from the original Nirvana in Fire drama who appeared in The Wind Blows in Chang Lin. They appeared as children in the original and adults in the later.
Men here look manly and women are gorgeous. And, did I mention the costumes? Must have cost millions.
Also some of the props and ornamental items are really valuable. For example, 3 kg of pure silver were used in creating the Nilin (serpent) staff so that it can have the right feel when wielded by an actor and appearance on screen.
For comparison, St Edward's Staff, a holy relic and the most famous staff in the collection of Crown Jewels of the United Kingdom, is weighed at 1.74kg.
Very interesting! This should be pinned somewhere cos this post will be buried soon by all the discussion going…
Thanks! Tencent, Iqiyi and Youku are all still losing money for their drama and media investment due to the intense competition so I don't know how long this can go on...
OTOH, Youku managed to sell Day and Night to Netflix and Fox Networks bought Ruyi's Royal Love in the Palace so in future good Chinese dramas might go commercial worldwide like Korean dramas do.
One more thing, the primary screenwriter for The Advisors Alliance and Secret of the Three Kingdoms is also responsible for Novoland: Eagle Flag so we could expect to get a pretty good script.
Thank you for the question ;) I would to point out that nothing comes easily. Before Tribes and Empires (TAE) released their first dramatic trailer in 2016, they had already worked extremely hard for more than one year unbeknownst to most people at that time.
The situation with NEF is much like TAE in early 2015, but a major difference, the Novoland IP has exploded, but the requirement for secrecy in production and shooting remains.
In comparison with Tides and Empires's budget of between RMB300 to 400 million (45-60 million USD) for 75 episodes, TAE has been given a budget exceeding RMB500 millon (75.6 million USD) for 56 episodes.
The 2nd link indicated that Legend of Fu Yao will have a budget of rmb500million, but NEF will be the most expensive TV series ever produced by Linmon Pictures.
Prior to shooting, NEF already had 14 months of preproduction, with a crew of over 1000 people finished constructing structures at more than a dozen locations, including building a "city" at the great plains we saw in Tribes and Empires (TAE). (Taking place more than 600 years before TAE, there was a Northen Capital in NEF).
These were the original shooting schedules for NEF (might be off by a few months) Xinjiang : 2017 Sept - Nov Xiangyang: 2017 Oct - 2018 Feb (main filming location for Nan Huai, the 2nd greatest human city in Novoland) Xinjiang : 2018 Mar - Apr Beijing : 2018 Apr - May Scotland : 2018 Jan (yes, in UK)
So far only 14 members of the main cast has been revealed. As late as Oct 2017, open casting calls for auditions of some minor characters were still being published. Liu Haoran (Nirvana in Fire 2) and Lareina Song (The King's Avatar)played the human and winged tribe leads.
Simon Shi Yunpeng won his first acting award at the age of 8 years old.
He appeared in four TV series directed by Kong Sheng (director of Nirvana on Fire): Windmill, Romance of our Parents, Ode to Joy and Ode to Joy 2.
His debut TV series might be Women of Han (2004), the lead actress of that series is none other than Jiang Qinqin, who played the queen in Tribes and Empires ;)
Note that some of the screen adaptations released so far are based on non-canonical Novoland stories.
TV adaptations based on canonical novels confirmed are:
1. Storm of Prophecy (2017) 2. Eagle Flag (filming, to be released 2019) 3. Wings of Wind - based on Legend of Feather (pre-production, aimed for late 2019 release date or beyond)
Reportedly, (2) and (3) would each have a budget larger than Storm of Prophecy.
这个网站已经建立了大约7年。 目前在世界排名第4800，每月有约1000万观看次数。 从网站开始时候这站的人一般会比较关注韩剧。目前使用这个网站的人来自世界各地，大部分来自美国，加拿大，巴西，印度和印度尼西亚。 (Trans: This website has been established for around 7 years. Currently it is ranked 4800th in the world by popularity, with about 10 million views per month. The focus of this site is Asian dramas but in practice K-dramas draw the biggest interest. Users of this site come all over the world - significantly from US, Canada, Brazil, India and Indonesia.)
You wouldn't happened from be Baidu 贴吧 ? I just saw posts there referring to kisskh.
I think people need to understand that in spite of many, many successfully high fantasy books published outside China, there are actually very few successful TV adaptations of high fantasy novels in the West.
Try asking people comparing this to GoT next time, "Beside Games of Thrones, what other ENGLISH high fantasy TV series you have watched that you would recommended?" Some of them might be too embarrassed to answer.
Some would probably pointed to the 2nd most popular high fantasy TV series (as of 2017) - the Shannara Chronicles. The author of Shannara, Terry Brooks, a writer for 40 years, is one of the producers and he wrote a gushing endorsement for the adaptation of his work. I have watched the 2nd season of that show, and while I enjoyed it, is nothing to be shout about.
I am not trying to put anyone down, just pointing out that adapting a fantasy work is a more complex undertaking than many people think. Otherwise, the TV industry in the West would have been churning them out by the dozens,like they do with the superhero franchise. But they never did.
PS: I have Chinese roots, can read Chinese and 4 other languages.
Has the longest one-take drinking contest scene I ever seen on a drama series :D
Two protagonists consumed a total of 35 bowls of an alchohol beverage (arkhi) in front a cheering crowd in slightly under 2 minutes and 20 seconds. This is filmed without a single apparent cut or use of special effects.
If im not wrong, the child in the last ep belongs to tuo ba jun and li wei yang as the way that child writes is…
1. In this story, Tuoba Hong is the only son of TBJ and Weiyang - product out of their union of love.
2. Little Hong told his father that Weiyang taught him how to write.
3. It was never addressed directly in the TV series but Chang Ru's baby would have remained with Chang Ru's maid. Assuming he did not perish prematurely due to lack of a mother's attention and his existence was some how brought to the attention of Wei Young or TBJ - the child would have been brought to the capital and most likely given to be raised up by the adopted mother of TBY.
AFAK there wasn't any version of English translation for the famous Han poem Liu Bie Qi to be found in the Internet,
so this is my first contribution to C-drama translation in 13 years, for Princess Weiyoung.
This scene happened at Episode 54 in the garden, M is male, F is female.
Note the opening poetry line is used in an earlier scene in the same episode:
M: Tying our knots of hair together as husband and wife
F: Never doubting how much we love one another
Garden scene:
M: Tying our knots of hair together as husband and wife
M: Never doubting how much we love one another
M: Joys and pleasures of a wondrous evening
M: Lingering in the bliss of our intimacy
M: Holding hands together, shreding tears in sorrow...
M: (Unspoken) as I depart from you.
F: Cherish every beautiful moment, the best years of our lives.
F: Our mutual love, never forgotten, times of such joy and happiness.
F: In life, surely will I return to thee.
F: In death, I will remember thee forever.
This poem was often credited to Su Wu and is written more than 500 years before the time of the story.
Of course if your expectation is for this to exceed the original (which the creators never promised nor purposely set out to made) then it may not delivered for you.
From the Shuofeng clan's POV they are justified by taking back their ancestral homeland which is literally "green pasture and still waters".
Such sentiments and controversies unfortunately also happened to people groups in our real world, both past and present.
Xiao Ting Sheng and Xiao Jing Yan's son are the only two surviving characters from the original Nirvana in Fire drama who appeared in The Wind Blows in Chang Lin. They appeared as children in the original and adults in the later.
For comparison, St Edward's Staff, a holy relic and the most famous staff in the collection of Crown Jewels of the United Kingdom, is weighed at 1.74kg.
"Let all behold their NEW empress ----, and be fearful. "
OTOH, Youku managed to sell Day and Night to Netflix and Fox Networks bought Ruyi's Royal Love in the Palace so in future good Chinese dramas might go commercial worldwide like Korean dramas do.
One more thing, the primary screenwriter for The Advisors Alliance and Secret of the Three Kingdoms is also responsible for Novoland: Eagle Flag so we could expect to get a pretty good script.
Kshatriiya and KamSung asked me yesterday:
Source on the last two* please, would love some pretty pictures. If budget larger than SoP damn, that's gonna be huge. Cdramas are moving fast.
(https://kisskh.at/17023-tribes-and-empires-storm-of-prophecy?nid=124655#comment-1933139)
* = Novoland: Eagle Flag (NEF) and Wings of Winds
Thank you for the question ;) I would to point out that nothing comes easily. Before Tribes and Empires (TAE) released their first dramatic trailer in 2016, they had already worked extremely hard for more than one year unbeknownst to most people at that time.
The situation with NEF is much like TAE in early 2015, but a major difference, the Novoland IP has exploded, but the requirement for secrecy in production and shooting remains.
In comparison with Tides and Empires's budget of between RMB300 to 400 million (45-60 million USD) for 75 episodes, TAE has been given a budget exceeding RMB500 millon (75.6 million USD) for 56 episodes.
Sources in Chinese for budget:
http://news.ifensi.com/article-14-4025929-1.html
http://sinastorage.com/storage.caitou.sina.com.cn/products/201703/55df21edd0ab6fa47b2310e640e00420.jpeg
The 2nd link indicated that Legend of Fu Yao will have a budget of rmb500million, but NEF will be the most expensive TV series ever produced by Linmon Pictures.
Prior to shooting, NEF already had 14 months of preproduction, with a crew of over 1000 people finished constructing structures at more than a dozen locations, including building a "city" at the great plains we saw in Tribes and Empires (TAE).
(Taking place more than 600 years before TAE, there was a Northen Capital in NEF).
These were the original shooting schedules for NEF (might be off by a few months)
Xinjiang : 2017 Sept - Nov
Xiangyang: 2017 Oct - 2018 Feb (main filming location for Nan Huai, the 2nd greatest human city in Novoland)
Xinjiang : 2018 Mar - Apr
Beijing : 2018 Apr - May
Scotland : 2018 Jan (yes, in UK)
Source in Chinese for shooting and some cast bios:
http://www.sohu.com/a/164277823_395924
So far only 14 members of the main cast has been revealed. As late as Oct 2017, open casting calls for auditions of some minor characters were still being published. Liu Haoran (Nirvana in Fire 2) and Lareina Song (The King's Avatar)played the human and winged tribe leads.
The Chinese Baidu for Novoland: Eagle Flag is the source for cast info and other items:
https://baike.baidu.com/item/%E4%B9%9D%E5%B7%9E%E7%BC%A5%E7%BC%88%E5%BD%95/19440671
Finally a nice short clip on revelation of cast and crew:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fud3imAnhZ8
He appeared in four TV series directed by Kong Sheng (director of Nirvana on Fire):
Windmill, Romance of our Parents, Ode to Joy and Ode to Joy 2.
His debut TV series might be Women of Han (2004), the lead actress of that series is none other than Jiang Qinqin, who played the queen in Tribes and Empires ;)
Note that some of the screen adaptations released so far are based on non-canonical Novoland stories.
TV adaptations based on canonical novels confirmed are:
1. Storm of Prophecy (2017)
2. Eagle Flag (filming, to be released 2019)
3. Wings of Wind - based on Legend of Feather (pre-production, aimed for late 2019 release date or beyond)
Reportedly, (2) and (3) would each have a budget larger than Storm of Prophecy.
(Trans: This website has been established for around 7 years. Currently it is ranked 4800th in the world by popularity, with about 10 million views per month. The focus of this site is Asian dramas but in practice K-dramas draw the biggest interest. Users of this site come all over the world - significantly from US, Canada, Brazil, India and Indonesia.)
But after 18 episodes I would say it is encouraging so far.
From all the revealed plots so far he is not going to turn into another "Yan Xun" like in the other drama.
Does that answer your question?。
没有缺陷，何来改进的的机会。
(Without defect there wouldn't be opportunity for improvement in future ;-)
I think people need to understand that in spite of many, many successfully high fantasy books published outside China, there are actually very few successful TV adaptations of high fantasy novels in the West.
Try asking people comparing this to GoT next time, "Beside Games of Thrones, what other ENGLISH high fantasy TV series you have watched that you would recommended?" Some of them might be too embarrassed to answer.
Some would probably pointed to the 2nd most popular high fantasy TV series (as of 2017) - the Shannara Chronicles.
The author of Shannara, Terry Brooks, a writer for 40 years, is one of the producers and he wrote a gushing endorsement for the adaptation of his work. I have watched the 2nd season of that show, and while I enjoyed it, is nothing to be shout about.
I am not trying to put anyone down, just pointing out that adapting a fantasy work is a more complex undertaking than many people think. Otherwise, the TV industry in the West would have been churning them out by the dozens,like they do with the superhero franchise. But they never did.
PS: I have Chinese roots, can read Chinese and 4 other languages.
Two protagonists consumed a total of 35 bowls of an alchohol beverage (arkhi) in front a cheering crowd in slightly under 2 minutes and 20 seconds. This is filmed without a single apparent cut or use of special effects.
2. Little Hong told his father that Weiyang taught him how to write.
3. It was never addressed directly in the TV series but Chang Ru's baby would have remained with Chang Ru's maid. Assuming he did not perish prematurely due to lack of a mother's attention and his existence was some how brought to the attention of Wei Young or TBJ - the child would have been brought to the capital and most likely given to be raised up by the adopted mother of TBY.
AFAK there wasn't any version of English translation for the famous Han poem Liu Bie Qi to be found in the Internet,
so this is my first contribution to C-drama translation in 13 years, for Princess Weiyoung.
This scene happened at Episode 54 in the garden, M is male, F is female.
Note the opening poetry line is used in an earlier scene in the same episode:
M: Tying our knots of hair together as husband and wife
F: Never doubting how much we love one another
Garden scene:
M: Tying our knots of hair together as husband and wife
M: Never doubting how much we love one another
M: Joys and pleasures of a wondrous evening
M: Lingering in the bliss of our intimacy
M: Holding hands together, shreding tears in sorrow...
M: (Unspoken) as I depart from you.
F: Cherish every beautiful moment, the best years of our lives.
F: Our mutual love, never forgotten, times of such joy and happiness.
F: In life, surely will I return to thee.
F: In death, I will remember thee forever.
This poem was often credited to Su Wu and is written more than 500 years before the time of the story.