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I think it makes it more realistic. sometimes your hands are tied no matter what you know and how powerful you may seem.

yes the waiting is excruciatingly hard!!!
I do love how the characters here also seem more
relatable and real, despite being smart she doesn’t always win or overcome hardship just because she’s FL. sometimes I found the double a little unconvincing.

so many people saying this is like the double but it’s actually so different. in the double the FL assumes a new identity for revenge. this one is more of a “rebirth” - a chance for a do-over that is not heavily driven by revenge but more about preventing known tragedies and living a better life.
Also, I also like that it’s not about revenge and punishing everyone who wronged them in past life cos some of the crimes hasn’t happened. how can you punish someone for a crime they don’t know about and haven’t commited?!

I guess as heir he still need his presence around the residence for “face” so things still not proper to the outside world despite the internal conflict.

yeah. I mean he was already at the scene. but who knows— it could be anyone at this stage

I thought so too. cos it was definitely the same robe the higher ranking eunuchs wear too

I can’t believe how young he is due to the characters he portrayed! (Reminds me of Chen Xingxu when he did GOodbye my Princess). Such good acting, maturity and screen presence for his age.

Hahaha thanks!!! Based on your info I was able to look him up and realised I saw him in Legally Romance.

This is random but does anyone know the actor that acted Xiao Hu who died after fighting with that one-eyed man at the train station in ep 1? He looks so familiar and it's bothering me that I can't remember where I've seen him lol.

i think she explained it pretty clear in the car ride with her brother using the allusion of a beast and its trainer.

Even in a normal family cares a bit less about having the perfect airs and saving face and reputation, a rich and strict mum like that will not tolerate any form of weakness so she definitely will not believe in counselling. She expects her children to not act out of line and behave perfectly like the way she taught and expect them to be. Mental illness and getting the right help, unfortunately. does not fall into this.

Also don't forget that she's was accepted into their family and raised more or less as their own blood and flesh so she just know that she needs to feel grateful towards them and not resentful. Her feelings towards her mum is probably very complicated and contradicting.

agreed! also, not everyone will abandon their family JUST for love. She was 18! And love rarely conquers all! Besides, they're her family - they CHOSE to take her in and provide for her and raise her and has given her the best life with financial freedom despite the cruel and controlling mum. She was just a child and she's being made to feel like a child again when her mum in around. She's deep in her childhood trauma coming back from abroad and everyone is just hating on her cos she's not a dumb, reckless, "I do what I wanna" FL...sigh

I'm enjoying it very much. I think the way it sets up the FL shows there's gonna be a lot of character development in her finding her own independence and living her life as she sees fit. Poor girl has been suppressing every single thought and feeling growing up. She must think as her mother and feel the same way and have the same opinion or else she won't be a "good girl". People are hating on her so much and she's just a victim.

Also, I think it's very realistic that he's giving her the cold shoulders and questioning her motives because its been 10 WHOLE years of not hearing from her after being dumped abruptly with no further explanation and then she comes back out of the blue wanting to reconcile. It's quite logical to me and I don't find it moving slow at all. Not sure why people are complaining

but it's a fair enough point she made. We as viewers know everything but she doesn't know if he's done anything for their future. Seems like she's the only one risking it all (and having a lot more to risk) and he's just living his life all fine. I don't think it's selfish, I think it's normal to want your partner to put in the effort to be with you too

I think we might be a bit harsh on her? She's clearly suffering from some sort of mental condition. Probably from the loss of her real parents and having a super domineering adoptive mum (who clearly lacks empathy as well ) growing up. Looks like she's masked it enough to not have it affect her work but definitely affected her personal/social life. Also now that she's back from abroad and being thrown in the same toxic environment with toxic people will just make all the trauma resurface and she definitely cannot heal if she's stuck in the same place as that little pitiful girl that she was years ago.

I'm so glad I wasn't the only one rolling my eyes at all the super preachy comments and holier than thou attitudes from the law enforcement people. In saying that, this show clearly wasn't written from a more psychological approach where they want you to delve into and understand the inner workings of a criminal. At the same time, I still hate the lack of sympathy and empathy shown towards these criminals as they are all victims of their own circumstances and most have suffered prolonged unimaginable abuse of all sorts. In most judicial systems people like them would get reduced sentences or even have the nature of their crime change to acknowledge that fact that they were driven into a certain state of desperation.

JYT's crimes and evildoings after the first murders was probably not necessary but I understand why and how he came to be that ruthless. I still chuckle at the scene where he was retelling them his abuse that led up to him murdering his uncle and he literally said "I was in a kill or be killed situation and to live I had to kill them", the cops were practically saying 'no...we disagree....you should just sit there and be killed cos then you would be acting within the premise of the law'. Huh??! Like it's human instinct to try and survive and to eliminate dangers that will threaten that survival.

Totally! Nothing is ever just black and white and learning about the motivations behind the bad guys' actions can leave you feeling ambivalent towards them.

I think as a mother who really did love her son (in her own way), she didn't want to confront herself with the fact that she might've killed him and was being hopeful that maybe he wasn't in the car. She wanted to believe he was really just missing and safe somewhere. She was definitely being in denial with herself. It's probably why she didn't lose her shit at ZDC right away.

When the police asked if she knew SBY was already dead before she got the call and she said yes.

So I rewatched the scene and I think it's definitely is an accident on the mum's part. It was only at the very end when the car was sinking and SBY managed to hum the same melody that made her realise he was in the trunk. (The brother obviously knew he would die having tied him up and stuffed his mouth and putting him in the same car with QXW).

Can someone please explain to me if Song Bai Yu's death was an accident? It seems like it was but I'm doubting it cos his mum played the same song he used to hum when he was nervous, as if to calm him before his death.