DinnyDon

vagabond just left us hanging with the villain being alive.. haven't watched squid game yet but if this show gets season 2 it'll be very difficult to just proceed without explaining the details.

This would've been my first kdrama where ML ends up with second FL.. It was going so good really.. :/ I am at ep15 and can't watch it any further. I read the comments but was still hoping the second FL and ML would end up together while FL will heal somehow but it seems quiet the opposite.

I may be cruel but if the FL would've died in Lisbon instead of her child would ML and second FL have a happy ending? Like it seemed like his emotions came rushing back when he saw FL again in Korea.

Sad... it makes you wonder, if you were to see your ex after a very long time, would you choose the ML way or choose to be faithful to your current gf. Interestingly sad

I guess the writers purposefully made it sad and unrealistic, like why make FL's bestie have a cancer.. that's like purposefully adding drama.

From the previews it seems like they all die lonely and sad. freakin hell brother!

finally someone who agrees with my pov

I watched 4 episodes but feel bad on how ML is conning his own wife. Didn't he fell in love with her?

Can anyone tell me when does our FL finds out the truth about ML? Does he confess or does she finds out on her own? Which episode?

Mark it as spoiler. tnx

The stupidest characters are the ones around the FL, how can someone not recognize her for acting so different?

I couldnt even continue watching..

Okay let me rope in, yes I sincerely agree with your pov. I too have seen so many dramas and dropped so many of them just because I couldn't digest the fact that the second leads male/female can't accept the fact the our MC are happy.

I guess we can add this to kdrama trope where every ML will have atleast one female who is trying her best to either destroy him or his relationship. If I am correct Itaweon Class has the FL do that to SFL, but not the other way around, so maybe it's a change. Nevertheless, the female characters where they genuinely help build or bring together the MC would be a refreshing scene.

The only couples that makes it worth watching are the old lady and her first love and the husband and wife. Rest of them seem to be like fillers to me.

I've finished the drama so I am being careful to not spoil it for you but by the end you'll realize it wasn't that big impactful drama. If you are into family dramas I would wholeheartedly recommend Five Children. It's really a feel good drama. MC do an excellent job at managing families.

Sooo true.. in the whole drama we get to see all the other casts doing stuff but our ML has so less screen time that it's frustrating. And there wasn't one good fluffy scene with ML,FL and the baby taking a stroll in the park or somewhere.
Romance was kinda a dud to be honest.

1. Ending is realistic,, once you reach second half of the season you'll realize how it would end.
2. Generally all Kdramas have blur effect on all bloody stuff so it should be fine. There are alot of murder scenes/photos but all of them are blurred.

true, ML doesn't deserve anyone but his own solitude. Making FL miserable from the start was very shameful of him.

Had to drop this due to insane plot of FL falling for a holo. Unrealistic and on top of it our ML is just playing with her feelings. I dropped it at ep 7. I wonder weather she'll be able to love our ML but doesn't she have to breakup with holo first.

She is nothing compared to Gong Hyo Jin from Jealousy Incarnate/Master's Sun. She is given characters with the most deplorable attitudes of begging, unbelievable cupidity and weak characters. It is very difficult to watch such actresses who are made to act like such. Her acting in "When the Camellia Blooms" and "Its okay thats love" is superb.

He doesn't have the basic humane characteristics to provide the FL with basic amenities, he couldn't provide her with a place, no helping hand(money for renting), couldn't even call to find her whereabouts.

How tf does he get the girl is beyond me! I can't stand his character and can't continue. Actually this idea of distancing or giving cold shoulder to FL till they fall for you is one of shi**est tropes the Kdrama world has adopted. Really unbelievable they still employ this in few romance Kdramas.

The dramas/tvseries/movies should motivate people to be nice, humane and social people rather than showing us with a** characters getting the girl in the end. It is utterly despicable to imagine. I get the revenge thingy of our ML but still what is wrong with these characters to be a lil bit responsive to anyone's needs. A wonderful example to helping hand characteristics is in "Your House Helper". The ML is one of best characters in kdrama world, you help, you impart wisdom through your acts and show generosity without holding back (he acts cold towards the FL in the beginning thou but it is mutual so I think its okay).

Also I have seen the same attitude in "a poem a day" where the second-sml doesn't have a lodging (where he previously stayed had dripping water issue) and he had to stay at the hospital the night to be found out by his colleagues. Even his friend being another piece of sh** couldn't help him rather just flaunts his riches to him. There are many more examples..

Dropped the series at EP7 after the ML's antics. He doesn't deserve the FL.

The difference is in production company. Vagabond was produced by Netflix whereas Mouse was by TvN. I've rarely seen TvN doing what Netflix does.

The first priority of FL once regaining memories should've been getting a divorce and finding out her son's biological father. Neither the ML nor FL are using their brains as to how the accident occurred, how she got pregnant and who manipulated who?

Rather two mature adults were fantasizing and involving in sexual pleasures. :/

I think I have to stop watching this drama at ep11. I was okay with one encounter between ML and FL. But now seeing the preview of ep12 I am sure this whole ML and FL relationship falls into infidelity zone.

Sure it must be difficult to accept other's opinion. Saying words like cheating on your beau even if the match is made in heaven is equally shameful in my view.

Well I too wish you don't reply. Peace

First of all, you have taken my comment personally while I kept my wordings inline with the drama I'm defending, whilst you are making personal attacks on me and my belief system. Not cool, period.

Secondly, the idea of the FL not breaking up with exbf before meeting/knowing ML could be of many reasons which haven't been explored by the drama. However, she did show discomfort about breaking up with him because it was a long-term relationship about 2-3yrs(I guess - mentioned in first few episodes- FL mentions it to her friend). When this happens, it is obvious the relationship becomes more like a chore to be completed at the end of the day like doing dishes with no feelings/concern. Similarly, in long-term relationships the most excruciating part is where they have to break-up. One has to realize the amount of effort put into each other,time spent, memories etc, considering all this and coming to a conclusion of breakup is not an easy one. It takes a lot of courage to breakup with someone after years of time spent and emotion sharing. Knowing this, the FL was hesitant as seen in the first scene where the exbf brings up marriage outta nowhere and how uncomfortable that makes the FL. These are clear signs of a relationship not working or needs counseling. Also their relationship was toxic and abusive as seen when the FL tries breaking up with him, he straight away accused her of cheating by asking whether she has an another man. This shows the level of insecurity and toxicity the guy has. He (exbf) didn't try solving it through talking or giving her time to contemplate. No GRACEPERIOD rather he kept on attacking till she took refuge in ML.

Finally, if this was the case for a male, the situation would still be same as you cannot force feelings on anyone else. No matter the situation. While the exbf was a douche-bag of the century, he even showed traits of possessiveness and masculine toxicity which we all should be wary of. By Cambridge English Dictionary - Cheat on someone is defined as "If you cheat on your husband, wife, or usual sexual partner, you secretly have a sexual relationship with someone else ". FL since the beginning drew a clear line between ML and herself about relationship/skinship/etc ..

Your personal opinion is respected and agreeable, but you bashing someone else who holds a different view doesn't give you the right to condemn/shame them.

I beg to differ as the FL never cheated not even got physical behind ex bf's back. Just having feelings for someone else and once realizing it, breaking up with ex bf is correct in my opinion.

And you can clearly understand how bad ex bf's character is after the breakup, if you continue watching you'll realize that she infact did herself the biggest favor of leaving that obsessive and possessive piece of trash.

Only after she says lets break up did she gave in completely to her feelings for ML, and then they got physical. Another point is when the exbf asks her to marry him, at this point she realizes that she has no feelings for him and wishes to stop it from going further. These feelings were heightened when she meets ML and pointed out how stale their relationship(with ex bf) has gotten.

I feel bad that you left a well made series for such a small point.