I know nothing about construction so some of the plot went over my head but overall solid first two episodes.…
"I know nothing about construction so some of the plot went over my head" I think the big thing to know is that there is a lot of corruption within the construction industry. There is a lot of money and a lot of grifters. A construction company is a great setting for an audit team because irl there is a ton of stuff to investigate.
Even if they made a copy of the data it would have been invalid as evidence as it was not the original data. Seo…
In a real investigation, the laptop data would have been copied using some specific app that makes exact byte for byte hdd copies. the original would have been kept under lock and key and not been accessible to the suspects. auditor would analyze the copy but not touch the original....
I started watching this when the first episode was out, because I read the description and I have a soft spot…
if there is a romantic angle, it will be between Han Su and YSJ imo. Even then, could easily see this drama not even trying to incorporate that element.
I know nothing about construction so some of the plot went over my head but overall solid first two episodes.…
I really want to know the story behind the FL. She seems too old to be the daughter of the psycho brother. With the ending of ep 2, I imagine we get to see more of her in the next eps.
So far an okay show. I just hope that the writers don't rely on the main leads making terrible decisions to drive the plot like they did in the first couple episodes.
when it comes to auditing/accounting you can only trust one thing; the numbers. trusting people over numbers breeds…
He's supposed to be a rookie, but even then, reasonable people should have a basic understanding of their job after 9-months in the role. Both him and teh experienced auditor/team-lead make some really idiotic decisions to extend the plotline. From the rookie not returning the laptop and blindly trusting everybody, to the senior that didn't immediately back up or consult with a digital forensics expert to back up the laptop. Very frustrating.
Since you are never gonna watch it, basically he dies in the past saving her LOL and girl is somehow pregnant…
I enjoyed your review, and especially enjoyed your description of the ending. First 5,6 episodes were okay. All the characters were deeply flawed, some worse than others. I was thinking that the worst will get their comeuppance and the mediocre ones will maybe at least learn something. ML may even become a semi-responsible adult compared to the brooding early teenager figure and outright negligent father shown in the first half. Really, any character improvement would have better than what was delivered.
What do we get after ep. 6? The con-artist conflict resolved with no consequences (wtf was that 'resolution', the writers need to go back to freshman creative writing). We get ep. after ep. after ep. of a will he, won't he die in a fire drama, and then it all culminates in laughable deus ex machina event to remove any consequence for all those episodes of drama. Truly a laugh out loud moment.
thanks just because of your comment I'll watch. I was scared by the other negative comments because I waited 2…
my take away is that people really connect with this or they don't at all. there's very little middle ground in this comment section. The mediocre 7.8 rating reflects that. I'm guessing it's a mean between the folks giving 9 or 10 and the folks giving 5 or 6.
I fall into the former camp. I hope you enjoy it, but don't feel bad if it's not your cup of tea.
I had a very different experience and find many of your supporting arguments lackluster. They were not in love…
@Sometimes1 "FL confession to her friend, she never treated anyone else like Junho. "My Pride" his name on her Cell. "
He literally made her career. You're reading way too much into their relationship ten years prior. Furthermore, so what? She didn't pursue a relationship back then, neither did he. Was there anys ort of 'love', in the romantic sense? No. They bonded and had an impactful shared experience.
"I'll ignore the rest." Sounds good. Would rather not hear the rest of your 'enlightened' projections.
I had a very different experience and find many of your supporting arguments lackluster. They were not in love…
I appreciate you expanding on your thoughts and understand your perspective a bit better. We have fundamentally different interpretations of the show, but that makes for interesting discussion. To address your points,
1. Hye Jin was a top instructor and fundamental to her hagwon's success. Given the hyper-competitive nature of the industry, I was not surprised that she was attacked by multiple people, co-workers and competitors alike, given the scandalous situation. I wouldn't call it contrived, I'd call it an expansion greed and competition.
2. One of the weaknesses or misinterpretation may be the passage of time. It wasn't a couple of weeks, it was months working as co-workers and living in the same neighborhood that was covered over a couple of episodes. My memory may be failing me, but wasn't it closer to 4 episodes from their first kiss to officially having a relationship? Hye Jin was quite taken aback by the situation. Perhaps one of the issues was that the show did not have many scenes with the two outside their work environment.
3. I interpreted their current relationship as influenced but not wholly defined by their past. The focus on their history provided ample shared experiences from which their relationship grew.
4. I do think there was more nuance than you are letting on. The overarching critique of 'authority' is certainly present, however that ignores the motivations for the Witch (prestige), the Asst. Dir. (revenge), or her co-workers (reputation, greed). There is more to it if you chose to take a closer examination.
5. I agree that it is not 100% accurate for dramatic reasons, but the characters and plot allowed for interesting insights into the pressures and moral ambiguities present in the hagwon system. Its allegorical nature allowed for exploration of the themes. Like you said, it is a kdrama afterall.
I think my feelings about this drama can be summed up as - unconvinced. Unconvinced by the romance, which in typical…
I had a very different experience and find many of your supporting arguments lackluster.
They were not in love ten years prior. They had a tutor/student relationship. Jun Ho had a crush, but it was not reciprocated, and he was emotionally immature. They did not rush past getting to know each other before admitting their feelings, either. They had met every year or two to catch up on what was going on in each other's lives (via the academy's reunion events). Hye Jin was very reticent to begin a romantic relationship or even to admit to those feelings, precisely because of the issues it would cause "in the present."
I don't think the intent was to critique existing power structures or pass some sort of moral judgement. My interpretation is that this drama is a character-study examining the conflicts and difficulties that arise in the hyper-competitve and cut-throat hagwon industry. The director and writers never intended to send the message "teachers should be good teachers". Rather, it's much more interesting to examine the wide range of motivations and moral/ethical boundaries for people that consider themselves 'teachers.' The drama succeeded in that regard.
In what way is there a "group of individuals over-involved with each other's lives for contrived reasons?" Can you name an instance in this show?
A mystery: How did this pleasant and innocent show manage to spawn the reeking, feces-laden jambalaya that is…
by pushing eye-candy actors/actresses rather than developing a half-way intelligent plot and narrative structure. It's pitting the folks looking for swoon worthy faces to see for an hour on tv against people that are looking for an engaging story. Bad combo.
tbh, I haven't seen such vitriolic discussion before. tbh, I forgot about this show a day after I dropped it. dunno why so many people are defending and attacking it. Just let it die like all the other mediocre dramas over the years...
So, 4 episodes in and it really is meh hahaLike it's something that can be watched but not that it would have…
I agree. It's very *okay*, atm.
Aside from the FL supernatural age switching, this is a generic run of the mill murder/serial-killer plotline with a nonsensical prosecutor and nonsensical policing. And then the drug ring is thrown in as well. And the older intern/contract group of workers. And a conflict between them and former-assistant(?) to the ML(?). They have a lot of stuff in the mix.
I'm torn, it's fun so far, but there's still another 12 episodes to go. This feels like a mess atm. I'm optimist that once some key characters get to know the FL age-switch, it'll get even more fun.
Korea is such an ageist society. I don’t understand why they believe older people cant get the job done. Especially,…
that last scene from today, ep. 3, was so frustrating! She has given the ML no reason for him to doubt her ability as an aide. It felt so discriminatory and offensive.
They do a good job in an earlier scene when the older workers are introducing themselves to the new guy by explicitly mentioning that all of them have impressive resumes and accomplishments.
This article by the world economic forum describes the scale (10-30% of the ~12trillion dollar industry!) of the corruption loses. https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2016/02/why-is-the-construction-industry-so-corrupt-and-what-can-we-do-about-it/
What do we get after ep. 6? The con-artist conflict resolved with no consequences (wtf was that 'resolution', the writers need to go back to freshman creative writing). We get ep. after ep. after ep. of a will he, won't he die in a fire drama, and then it all culminates in laughable deus ex machina event to remove any consequence for all those episodes of drama. Truly a laugh out loud moment.
I got a kick out of your review. Thanks!
I fall into the former camp. I hope you enjoy it, but don't feel bad if it's not your cup of tea.
"My Pride" his name on her Cell. "
He literally made her career. You're reading way too much into their relationship ten years prior. Furthermore, so what? She didn't pursue a relationship back then, neither did he. Was there anys ort of 'love', in the romantic sense? No. They bonded and had an impactful shared experience.
"I'll ignore the rest." Sounds good. Would rather not hear the rest of your 'enlightened' projections.
1. Hye Jin was a top instructor and fundamental to her hagwon's success. Given the hyper-competitive nature of the industry, I was not surprised that she was attacked by multiple people, co-workers and competitors alike, given the scandalous situation. I wouldn't call it contrived, I'd call it an expansion greed and competition.
2. One of the weaknesses or misinterpretation may be the passage of time. It wasn't a couple of weeks, it was months working as co-workers and living in the same neighborhood that was covered over a couple of episodes. My memory may be failing me, but wasn't it closer to 4 episodes from their first kiss to officially having a relationship? Hye Jin was quite taken aback by the situation. Perhaps one of the issues was that the show did not have many scenes with the two outside their work environment.
3. I interpreted their current relationship as influenced but not wholly defined by their past. The focus on their history provided ample shared experiences from which their relationship grew.
4. I do think there was more nuance than you are letting on. The overarching critique of 'authority' is certainly present, however that ignores the motivations for the Witch (prestige), the Asst. Dir. (revenge), or her co-workers (reputation, greed). There is more to it if you chose to take a closer examination.
5. I agree that it is not 100% accurate for dramatic reasons, but the characters and plot allowed for interesting insights into the pressures and moral ambiguities present in the hagwon system. Its allegorical nature allowed for exploration of the themes. Like you said, it is a kdrama afterall.
3.
I agree that for people not knowleagble about the Korean school/academy system, this would have been much less interesting.
They were not in love ten years prior. They had a tutor/student relationship. Jun Ho had a crush, but it was not reciprocated, and he was emotionally immature. They did not rush past getting to know each other before admitting their feelings, either. They had met every year or two to catch up on what was going on in each other's lives (via the academy's reunion events). Hye Jin was very reticent to begin a romantic relationship or even to admit to those feelings, precisely because of the issues it would cause "in the present."
I don't think the intent was to critique existing power structures or pass some sort of moral judgement. My interpretation is that this drama is a character-study examining the conflicts and difficulties that arise in the hyper-competitve and cut-throat hagwon industry. The director and writers never intended to send the message "teachers should be good teachers". Rather, it's much more interesting to examine the wide range of motivations and moral/ethical boundaries for people that consider themselves 'teachers.' The drama succeeded in that regard.
In what way is there a "group of individuals over-involved with each other's lives for contrived reasons?" Can you name an instance in this show?
tbh, I haven't seen such vitriolic discussion before. tbh, I forgot about this show a day after I dropped it. dunno why so many people are defending and attacking it. Just let it die like all the other mediocre dramas over the years...
Aside from the FL supernatural age switching, this is a generic run of the mill murder/serial-killer plotline with a nonsensical prosecutor and nonsensical policing. And then the drug ring is thrown in as well. And the older intern/contract group of workers. And a conflict between them and former-assistant(?) to the ML(?). They have a lot of stuff in the mix.
I'm torn, it's fun so far, but there's still another 12 episodes to go. This feels like a mess atm. I'm optimist that once some key characters get to know the FL age-switch, it'll get even more fun.
They do a good job in an earlier scene when the older workers are introducing themselves to the new guy by explicitly mentioning that all of them have impressive resumes and accomplishments.