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The women in Palm's life are so much better! First there was caring and considerate Maggie, now there is Wise and Tough Love mom.

Maggie x Palm for the win!

YES! PALMxMAGGIE

Hahahahahha! as the Australians would say, a Consistent Cunt! XD

I haven't gotten around to watching it yet. I hope it's as cute n fun as its trailer!

YES! Thai series nowadays feels like more of time-fillers for the space between excellence of these other nations' works.

Haha i haven't watched FUTS. But I'm so done with these characters where one character has to carry the emotional baggage of other like a crafted robot.

I hope he would, so the foundation of that relationship is strong, but seeing how the show's going and it's episode 6, I think they'll just move towards more eye lingering and kisses, and at the end a scene of Nueng standing upto his mother to marry/be with Palm. Nueng's character growth will be brushed by 'cute moments'. I wish I'm wrong though.

So, Episode 6. PSA real talk, if anyone ever behaves like Nueng with you, please tell your friends about everything, you might be in a emotionally abusive relationship. I promise you, you won't feel like you're in one until you're out of it. You might love the person, they might love you back but it is not the proof of absence of abuse. That being said, let's focus on this fiction.

This episode feels like it exists in an alternate universe where the events of previous episode didn't happen. At least that's what Nueng's behaviour will tell you. At the end of the last episode he was distraught but in this episode, his worry level is not like his mother got shot but rather his mother slipped in the bathroom or something or maybe the house is getting renovated, so they had to go somewhere else. Also pro-tip, if you're worried about someone following your location, you turn off your phone not at some point in the run, rather at the beginning of the escape.

I guess Nueng is not going to have a good redeeming arc and we're just supposed to accept that fact. Last episode after that weak ass non-apology he kissed back Palm, leaned back on his shoulder now he is worried about leaning on his shoulder in the bus. But he's sleepy and in his sleep he leaned on his shoulder just to make it cute, idk if I should criticize Nueng or the bad writing of the show. I mean even at the hotel the scenes are so comedy central that it's like you wonder if the MC's mother wasn't just shot in the last episode and they're on the run.

They arrive at the hotel and Nueng's whole look is centered around either 'everyone is beneath me' or 'I have better things to do than be here'. And still hasn't asked once about his mom lmao.

Palm, in front of Nueng, introduces him as his friend to his mother. But Nueng has to ask Palm in the hotel room "Will you tell your mom you're working for me?", he can't help it, he wants everyone to know that Palm works for him so bad, that he is not equal to him. And when in the similar spirit Palm asks if he can drop the Mr. in his name to not arise any suspicions, Nueng says that he has been asking him to do it since beginning, which is true, but in Nueng fashion he has to follow it with mocking Palm that he "surely didn't let the chance go" when he called him Nueng, and then he scoffs; so much for I won't mind.

Nueng also tries to Nueng his way with Palm's mother, which she quickly shuts down by calling him out on his shit. Loved that scene. Also Palm's mother is such a great character, she drops facts and knowledge upon 'Pushover Palm' (that's his name from now on) and asks him to see the light. It was funny how Palm had to say Nueng's nice, like are you trying to convince yourself? People like Palm, who are pushovers, are more likely to be in an abusive relationships than people who are not pushovers.

Also, the english guests' scene, Nueng speaks mandarin to the guest and when Palm asks him what he said, he HAS TO reply with "if you want to know why we're laughing, you should pay more attention in class", as if Nueng hasn't been learning Mandarin since years and Palm was just started that subject just a few days ago. Nueng HAS TO point out Palm's mandarin inefficiency with 'look at me I'm so superior to you, and you're so beneath me' expressions and actions.

"a kiss is a special thing" LMAO, SAYS NUENG. "It's meaningful", where did all that meaning go when you kissed ben, invited him on a 'non-date' and were being a little shit about him protecting himself against abuse. Nueng is the prime example of wanting to have the cake and wanting to eat it too. He makes everything, everyone's fault. Palm is at fault for kissing him, even though the kiss wasn't a surprise, he literally asked beforehand. But since it's convenient for him to forget all the tantrums he was throwing about his first kissed being ruined, it's 'definitely Palm's fault' for feeling bad for Nueng. He's the most beautiful example of being visibly upset about something and loudly ranting about it to someone and if that other person helps them in some way, then you can say that i never asked you to help me.

Also talking about tantrums, he definitely is more upset and throws more tantrums about kisses than let's say his parents being shot, like your mother was shot yesterday in front of you, but yea definitely pout about 'special' and 'meaningful' kisses.

Nueng is so exhausting, Palm legit has to babysit him despite being of same age. He makes his life to be a pity party, his life is 'sadder' than a story's characters, but not for reasons you'd think. Whilst Palm deserves so much better than someone who would humiliate him in public but can't even give a proper apology in private. Palm unfortunately is a pushover and weak to Nueng's love-bombing tactics.

Like you try to cheer up someone by bringing them to a beautiful spot, and Nueng's like I have high standards, this isn't good enough for me; so ungrateful. like you're on the run for your life, this person is trying to protect you with whatever little he has, you don't care about your mother enough but at least be grateful for his efforts.

Also upon when they visit beach where Nueng's frolics whilst his mother might be in critical condition or whatever, who cares (definitely not Nueng), so when they're sitting Palm replies he found out about the beach from his own mother, Nueng's first instinct is that he'll buy the open to public beach to 'protect' it from tourists and not let anyone access it except his loved one. #capitalistThings. only a rich person can think of privatising a public space making it inaccessible to public.

And Palm calls it romantic because that's who Palm is, a hopeless romantic and a pushover. Palm is basically the definition of 'i will devote my whole life to you and have no identity of my own'. He is born to be in emotionally abusive relationships. What scares me is that there are real people out in the world like this, who will tolerate hours of abuse, just for the few seconds of feeling wanted.

Palm deserves so much better

Well, the target audience, thai or not, eat it up if there are two conventionally cute boys doing cute things together. Furthermore any criticism is termed as hate which the ardent fans rally against making people less likely to express their criticism. And then this 'hate' is used to incentivise the inflation of praises of the show/cast and higher involvement in the fandom which leads to more sales of merchandise/meets etc. So if a show generates money, irrespective of its quality, then there is no incentive for the executives/studios etc to care much about the quality of the shows. Hence you get more shows like this.

He cared more about the kiss

What are you expecting from it?

Yes I agree that a person can't control what they feel, but they definitely can make choices in their behaviour. And again I'm talking about Nueng's actions, not his inner feelings. We don't have access to his inner feelings anyway, as there is no internal monologue available to us. What we have access to is what we can see — we can see his behaviour — and we assume his feelings using that as the foundation. And Nueng angrily staring at Palm whenever he interacts with Maggie, or Nueng talking about Maggie in a negative tone to Palm, not to forget the whole party fiasco are his actions. And since he's the one who can ultimately control his own actions, he by default is also responsible for them. And if the actions are faulty, he is at fault.

I meant two-timing as in being unfaithful; it doesn't necessarily need to be physical. A person who is seeing/dating/in a relationship with someone should not be getting jealous of any other person's perceived romantic relationships. Nueng giving angry stares to/confronting Palm about Maggie is more than just the inner feeling of jealousy whilst he is kissing/flirting with Ben. How is Palm or Ben supposed to interpret this simultaneous behaviour; where Ben doesn't even know about it happening and Palm is his servant/bodyguard.

All his reasons can either be outrightly solved or managed because he has money. He can start with getting therapy, reporting bullying, changing schools, getting private tutoring or home schooling or whatever it is rich people can do, etc.

And his mother getting shot in the present time is not one of the reason for his past actions.

And I'd rather people "shut down and go into perpetual fetal position" than inflicting their pain onto others. And as a teenager of an uber-rich family with zero responsibilities, there would be no damage to people around him for it.

All my points are about how other people are affected by Nueng's behaviour - namely Ben and Palm. So it's less of judgement and more of concern for them. I understand Nueng and that's why I want him to get therapy, which he can obviously afford. I would not criticize Nueng if Palm or Ben were similar to Nueng. I don't have issues with an unlikable protagonist on its own, but I do have issues with an unlikable protagonist in a love story where other nicer people take the brunt of the MC's actions.

The Palm and Maggie scenes are so cute. She is so kind and gentle towards Palm.

Just watched ep5. Nueng just can't get more unlikable, can he? He drinks alcohol which he is allergic to after flirting with the guy he kissed, makes a scene, abuses his bodyguard, starts a fight all because he can and he knows there are other people to pick up his mess.

Next day in the morning, he doesn't apologize, orders Palm, the person he humiliated, to look at him when he talks. Invites Ben, who he has kissed, has flirted with, knows is interested to be in a relationship with him, and says to him that it's not a date. So he's basically stringing him along all the while keeps on having 'moments' with Palm, resulting in Nueng basically two-timing them.

So on the 'non-date' Nueng when asked upon by Ben when are they gonna have alone time, says Palm has to be there as his bodyguard but don't worry he won't tell his parents. So, if it's not a date, and just two friends hanging out, why do they have to worry about parents knowing? And if it's not a date, and Nueng wants Palm to be his friend, then why isn't he included in the activity, why he has to maintain the distance?

He gifts his servant/bodyuard shoes instead of apologizing, which is like change money to Nueng, doesn't even give it by hand when they live in the same place; such a douche. Still doesn't apologize upon confrontation and when he has to because Palm isn't taking his shit, blames it on the alcohol, talk about choices.

When that photograph-principal incident happens, calls Ben, whose father is a bigot and potentially abusive if Ben comes out, an asshole. So much for being understanding. It is to note that Ben has to resort to lie only when he is cornered, he didn't lie outright but only when he saw how vehemently his father was against even the idea and he has to live in that household being a teenager. And then Nueng storms out of the office, because he can #richpeoplethings.

So when does he actually apologize to Palm, hmm, well only when Palm has to endure his tantrums and abuse and stays by his side, which he is obligated to as he is his bodyguard. Even then the apology is not without the rant of _why does nobody want me_, like who are you talking about, your mother who always shows you her love, your father who loved you and was killed, your cousin who is friendly with you, Ben who likes you but had to lie for his safety in a potentially abusive household, Palm who endures your power abuse because he has to, I wonder who is this Mr Nobody that doesn't want him. Instead it's Nueng who doesn't want therapy.

Also why so much drama about Ben in terms of _opening up my heart to him_ who you were stringing along while you were two-timing him. And why so much drama about Palm when you don't even treat him as your equal. _Palm doesn't want to be my friend_ like what are your positive qualities for him to want to be your friend?

I feel sorry about Palm in all of this, Maggie treats him so much better, but unfortunately he is stuck in an abusive relationship. That's why Bosses aren't allowed to have a personal relationship with their employees because there is so much abuse of power.