Justitia wrongly sentenced her, but I think she's "dead dead" because as a human she was murdered by the younger…
Oh, I think you're right, that's true. Gremory did show up with the Hell animal thing chasing OG Bitna, but then the Hell animal vanished with the light door opening "saving" OG Bitna from the animal, but the scene abruptly cuts with the door light still shining through as a cross. And then there's also the fact that those Gremory & animal chase scenes were part of Justitia's "retelling" to the pych doctors to tell them she's a demon, and then they asked what was OG Bitna's real sin to land her in Hell and Justitia was like, "I have to tell you that too?", but then the epi just ends with her question response. Wonder if that's setting up for maybe something to be revealed in the last 2 episodes like you're hoping for, or if it's setting a possible stage for a Season 2.
is bitna defeating satan, an illusion?evidences:- imo, it's just impossible for satan to be defeated easily. he…
Agreed. Also, similar to "everything established about Bael is missing," except for the time Justitia kills Daon in error and Bael appears to deal additional punishment to Justitia, I don't recall Bael ever appearing in the human world on his own without being "called/summoned."
Well I do question if she's still in a nightmare illusion Satan constructed, but that guess aside, while I do…
Lol, he's been threatening to kill her since the original punishment if she didn't complete the 10-20 killings within a year, but it was a new view when he mentioned she was his heir.
Irrespective of her being in a nightmare illusion, if we are to take Bael's words as truly what he really said. I agree, he never forced her with how she would achieve her punishment task until now with J. I'm thinking if we are to take his words as really from him, maybe it's more because he sees her as his heir and expects her to still align with what a "real" demon is and isn't supposed to give into feelings, so he's forcing her back into that kind of state similar to how Gremory's "Venato" responsibility of punishing traitor demons turning more "human". Thus Bael's is forcing Justitia's hand to live up to being his heir or else she's no use as the heir and should be dealt with if she doesn't comply?
bael just wakes up and decides to make justitias life harder on a random ass monday... for the king of hell mans…
LOL, well I do question if she's still in a nightmare illusion Satan constructed, but that guess aside, Bael's punishment to begin with was for her to find 10 (then 20) murderers and kill them directly to send them to Hell, hence why she's been doing the "unjust" rulings to then let them free for her to run her "real" trials as a demon, so him wanting her to do the same to J still kind of aligns with the original punishment I think?
Also, I don't think Bael is the King of Hell, I think that role is Lucifer. Bael is like 2nd rank.
Justitia wrongly sentenced her, but I think she's "dead dead" because as a human she was murdered by the younger…
Lol, yeah, I wouldn't mind if they did a wrap around to tell the audience what really ended up happening to OG Bitna.
Although I also wouldn't be surprised if they did just leave it at "You sentenced her wrong, I fixed it and you're punished" since OG Bitna could have just been used as a plot device to get Justitia a fitting human body to end up in who happens to be a judge mixed up with the bad guys.
To your point, they did include the scene where she was running from that Hell animal thing which probably wouldn't have been needed if she was just there for plot device purposes. Unless that scene was also used as a plot device behind why Gremory was sent to Earth as punishment.
Was it mentioned that satan is the greatest demon? When he knew that the demon inside bitna is justitia he looked…
I think Satan and Bael are like on the same level, Justitia is right below Bael rank-wise, so Satan would be "more powerful" than Justitia as well. I agree with Danny's conclusion, Satan probably just was surprised Bitna was actually Justitia since she's fairly high in rank and he wasn't aware the demon he was going to face wasn't a lower demon like the other demons usually sent to the human realm/world/Earth (whatever you want to call it) x'p
I just finished episode 12 and I don't know why, but I suspected that the junkie hadn't died in the car. On the…
Satan's real form matches the illustration shown of him when they were telling the history of his attempt at a rebellion that failed and resulted in him having to flee.
Also, as part of the history retelling, it was mentioned that Satan fled to the human realm/world (whatever you want to call it) and would be hiding among humans, just like how Justitia the other demons are basically "hiding/using" a human's body different from their demon form. Hence why it makes sense that Satan was in the body of the "old man" who is the assemblyman father guy.
As for Satan "sucking," he is supposedly stronger than Justitia since he's like the same level as Bael, but when he lost, he was injured which he mentioned as well. Although, on another note, I'm thinking Justitia might still be in an illusion since Satan recited his line "wander in your nightmares" which activates his power, so him losing that badly to her might not actually be real even if he is weakened from his failed rebellion.
I see a lot of comments without spoiler tags. Spoilers galore. Good thing I watched the episode before I ended…
LOL, hence why I usually wait to finish catching up on the released episodes before coming to the MDL comments for any drama. It never fails for some to not use the spoiler tag ^^;;;
im sorry but why dude they make satan to be a cute old man😭? and a pushover at that, he doesn't even look like…
Lol, you mean the assemblyman father guy? I think him not looking like "Satan material" is kind of the point since they did say Satan fled and was hiding among humans which is why the demons haven't been able to find him this whole time x'D
The fact that she literally just side quested the number 1 issue in Hell for the past 26 years should give her…
Well I do question if she's still in a nightmare illusion Satan constructed, but that guess aside, while I do think she should get some leniency for supposedly sending Satan to Hell, Bael's punishment to begin with was for her to find 10 (then 20) murderers and kill them directly to send them to Hell, hence why she's been doing the "unjust" rulings to then let them free for her to run her "real" trials as a demon, so him wanting her to do the same to J still kind of aligns with the original punishment I think?
think ppl are forgetting that og kang bitna was meant to be sent to fake hell, not murderer's hell (which justitia…
Justitia wrongly sentenced her, but I think she's "dead dead" because as a human she was murdered by the younger nutty brother. Although, unless there was something lost in translation, in the 1st episode, I think Bael implied they were able to "save" OG Bitna from where Justitia sent her because they caught Justitia's incorrect sentencing, so not sure where they ended up sending OG Bitna though since she is dead,
Translated bits from Epi 1 that imply OG Bitna didn't ultimately end up where Justitia sent her: "[OG Bitna] almost faced great harm as a result of your error" "[OG Bitna]almost branded as a murderer and sent to Gehenna"
I don't understand, who is Baël in the hierarchy of Hell? Is he the boss? The strongest of them all? Because…
Bael is played by Shin Sung Rok, currently sitting in the "Guest Role" section of the cast list. As for the Bael character, I think he's like a 2nd in command because in the retelling of how Satan fled after his failed rebellion, it's Lucifer as the head with Bael & Satan as his like right-left hand demons.
The almost confirmed rumor is that Luo Luo was separated from the project because progress was too slow for the…
I think G9778 is right. Fans on Twt have mentioned from what they have read maybe on Weibo that Zhizhu is director of Group B and many of her scenes are indoors. There was also a fancam from last night's filming that someone IDed Zhizhu in the shot talking with the actors.
I'm curious too...nothing official yet, still rumors, but seems to be questions all over Weibo too...
Iono if anything official was put out, but looks like the crew list for this page added the male director, yet Luo Luo is still on the list as well. Not sure if there are 3 directors now...or Luo Luo remains on the list since she did the first month of shooting that would still be used.
Irrespective of her being in a nightmare illusion, if we are to take Bael's words as truly what he really said. I agree, he never forced her with how she would achieve her punishment task until now with J. I'm thinking if we are to take his words as really from him, maybe it's more because he sees her as his heir and expects her to still align with what a "real" demon is and isn't supposed to give into feelings, so he's forcing her back into that kind of state similar to how Gremory's "Venato" responsibility of punishing traitor demons turning more "human". Thus Bael's is forcing Justitia's hand to live up to being his heir or else she's no use as the heir and should be dealt with if she doesn't comply?
Also, I don't think Bael is the King of Hell, I think that role is Lucifer. Bael is like 2nd rank.
Although I also wouldn't be surprised if they did just leave it at "You sentenced her wrong, I fixed it and you're punished" since OG Bitna could have just been used as a plot device to get Justitia a fitting human body to end up in who happens to be a judge mixed up with the bad guys.
To your point, they did include the scene where she was running from that Hell animal thing which probably wouldn't have been needed if she was just there for plot device purposes. Unless that scene was also used as a plot device behind why Gremory was sent to Earth as punishment.
Also, as part of the history retelling, it was mentioned that Satan fled to the human realm/world (whatever you want to call it) and would be hiding among humans, just like how Justitia the other demons are basically "hiding/using" a human's body different from their demon form. Hence why it makes sense that Satan was in the body of the "old man" who is the assemblyman father guy.
As for Satan "sucking," he is supposedly stronger than Justitia since he's like the same level as Bael, but when he lost, he was injured which he mentioned as well. Although, on another note, I'm thinking Justitia might still be in an illusion since Satan recited his line "wander in your nightmares" which activates his power, so him losing that badly to her might not actually be real even if he is weakened from his failed rebellion.
Translated bits from Epi 1 that imply OG Bitna didn't ultimately end up where Justitia sent her:
"[OG Bitna] almost faced great harm as a result of your error"
"[OG Bitna]almost branded as a murderer and sent to Gehenna"