TharnType

Good drama.

I see in the revieuws that people love it or hate it, but most of the haters, hate it because of ethical reasons. People this is a tv show, it's fiction. Ofcourse also non ethical story's are made. This one has some abusive elements in it, but that doesn't make it a bad drama. And besides that, things like this also happen in real life, so i think it is a good thing that there are also scripts that show these kind of relationships.

I really liked it, the story was wel written, the visuals were stunning and it has a very beautfull OST (one of my favorite OST's out there).
Acting was also very good by most actors, i only had a little problem with Gulf. His acting felt overdone part of the time, especially when he acted that he was angry.

One thing they could have done better in the script is handling the case of Lhong, they just let him go instead of making him take responsibility for what he did.

This was the second time i watched the whole series and i will definatly watch it again in the future.

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Best BL ever

I really liked the series , especially the character of Tharn. It was fun as well as romantic. The intimacy of mew and gulf can't be substituted. The character development of everyone is so excellent. Acting of everyone is so good. Special credits to their costume designer and stylist.

The novel TharnType Story เกลียดนักมาเป็นที่รักกันซะดีๆ was first released online on December 2, 2014 via Dek-D.com's platform for writers. Even though the story is a spinoff of MAME's previous novel My Accidental Love is You, the event of TharnType Story takes place three years prior to the latter. The novel was published as a physical copy in 2016, compiling 62 chapters into two books. A sequel story consists of 22 chapters about Tharn and Type's life as a couple in their seventh year was published as one physical book following the first two books. As of 2020, TharnType Story has 216% ratings on its Dek-D official page with over 3.8 million total views.

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A problematic masterpiece

Oh boy i mean where to start lol.

The actors who are now complete and rightfully earned legends took this series and ran with it. They had a spark from the first episode and you had no choice but to want more.

But my God they played into every negative BL trope you could imagine.

+ Actors are incredible every last one + story was so well thought out
- Whyyyyy so rapey whyyyy - rape wasn't enough? Try some gang rape!
+ secondary stories were on point + great twists + no bad episodes
- toxic manipulation - non consensual/unwanted sexy times

There was so many diverse dynamics in the secondary storytelling that you couldn't help but fall in love with so many of the characters. They really told their stories so well.

This story has everything going for it and i really couldn't wait to start the next episode every time. I just wish they'd got away from the physical abuse as a storytelling crutch to create some intense emotions. The caliber of the actors could have seen too that.

Please if you don't have easy triggers watch this series!

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I understand why this is one of BL's most popular dramas, but I don't understand why the show's creators thought that a boy who is homophobic - his past aside - would get together with a gay man who crosses his boundaries in such a bad way.

The series is not good, it's not tragic, but the plot leaves a lot to be desired in many ways, technically the series may hold some level, it has nice actors, but that's not all, because by the plot it's just uncomfortable and unpleasant.


In the middle of this I actually liked Tharn, in no way to the endI could convince myself to Type. I still have in my mind what his past was like, but I can't translate that into his behavior, which at some points was downright exaggerated. He himself didn't know what he wanted, changing rooms was really not that difficult, and he stayed there! ALL THE TIME, I KEPT ASKING MYSELF 'WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS! WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU!!!'. I did not get an answer, and the plot continued.

The thread of Tharn's friend, was strange and scary. The boy was unstable and no one had seen it before, or what was the point? Beating him up was certainly not the way out, his thread in general was dropped after that, we got a few, I emphasize SOME scenes at the end of the series with him that were supposed to explain what happened, but we didn't really get that answer.

I personally think that this BL is nothing new or good. It is severely mediocre and very toxic, which is overused in bxb/gxg plots as storylines or simply depictions of relationships.

PL


Rozumiem dlaczego jest to jedna z popularniejszych dram BL, ale nie rozumiem dlaczego twórcy serialu pomyśleli, że chłopak który jest homofobem - pomijając jego przeszłość - zejdzie się z gejem, który przekracza jego granice w tak zły sposób.

Serial nie jest dobry, nie jest tragiczny, ale fabuła pozostawia wiele do życzenia pod wieloma względami, technicznie może i serial trzyma jakiś poziom, ma ładnych aktorów, ale to nie wszystko, bo przez fabułę to po prostu niekomfortowe i nieprzyjemne.

I tak jak gdzieś w tym wszystkim faktycznie polubiłam Tharna, w żaden sposób do końca nie mogłam przekonać się do Type. Ciągle mam w głowie to, jak wyglądała jego przeszłość, ale nie mogę tego przełożyć na jego zachowanie, które w niektórych momentach było wręcz przerysowane. Sam nie wiedział czego chce, zmiana pokoju była naprawdę nie taka trudna, a on tam został! PRZEZ CAŁY CZAS, ZADAWAŁAM SOBIE PYTANIE 'DLACZEGO TO ROBISZ?! CO Z TOBĄ NIE TAK!!!'. Odpowiedzi nie uzyskałam, a fabuła toczyła się dalej.

Wątek przyjaciela Tharna, był dziwny i przerażający. Chłopak był niestabilny i nikt tego wcześniej nie widział, czy o co chodzi? Pobicie go na pewno nie było wyjściem, jego wątek w ogóle został po tym został porzucony, dostaliśmy kilka, podkreślam KILKA scen pod koniec serialu z nim, które miały wyjaśnić, co się stało, ale tak naprawdę nie dostaliśmy tej odpowiedzi.

Uważam osobiście, że to BL nie jest niczym nowym, ani dobrym. Jest mocno przeciętne i bardzo toksyczne, co w wątkach bxb/gxg jest nadmiernie używane jako fabuły czy po prostu przedstawienia relacji.

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Must watch (with some hot scenes)

I really loved the story and the chemistry between the series.
The only part I didnt liked in the series is constant fightning and the gang rape plot. I believe something better could have been used instead of going so extreme.
This series is one of the hottest BL I have ever seen, close second to dont say no.
The chemistry and the character development between the leads was amazing.
Would have loved if they showed a bit more of techno's character a bit more about his life.

The story indirectly speaks to some of the things that people from LGBTQ community goes through in their everyday life.
Would recommend to watch.

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Hot!!! totally worth a watch

For me, Tharntype was the 1st Thai drama as well as my 1st BL drama and maybe thus has a special place in my heart- but for me it is worth 9+ stars anyday

If you ever want to watch a hot BL - this one is for you - just the 1st 4 episodes will make you feel good

+ves:
1. HOT! - regardless of how many times i might write this the Mewl is fine!!!! Plus their chemistry is off the charts. It made me feel so good
2. Songs - the background sounds were so romantic
3. Story - there were so many shades to the story
(while some feel how Type could offer his body, you need to understand the subtlety that he was attracted to Tharn but didn't want to show it and thus guised it like that)

-ves:
1. Random 2nd/3rd/ 4th leads - Dude, enough of creating random small couples. Tharn+Type were enough
2. Story - even though there were deep tones to it - some parts are dragged and need to be forwarded

Overall: worth a watch for the steamy couple

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Biggest surprise - please give it a chance

In the beginning the only reason I started watching this was because I heard the heat was good. I was very hesitant about the plot summary which didn't sound very good and by that point I didn't yet know it was a MAME show either, which tbh would have put me more off since I haven't been a big fan of the other productions from her.

However, it was a complete surprise on all regards!

1. With heat, it's really not that spicy. There is one sex scene (in the special) where they take a shirt off, otherwise it's just making out and clothes on touching. A lot of it, and implied sex, but it is rather tame.

2. Regarding plot, the summary is very much accurate, but there are layers to each character, and in my opinion, the reasons for everyone's behaviour are well explored, and everyone grows as a character.

3. Regarding TharnType being a MAME show, I've got to say it's easily my favourite. I've seen LitA, Wedding Plan and bit of Love sea, and they all infuriated me to a differing degrees. I'd say the acting and structure of TT is easily the best, there was a few too many diversions to side characters, and they brought in a lot of cameos into the last episode which I wasn't a huge fan of, but overall compared to some other stuff that's out there, not bad at all.

I honestly have never had this many thoughts and things to say about a series, so that should tell somethign. Overall, I was pleased with how the episodes were structured, the music and sound effects were a bit obnoxious but not to an extent it bothered me, and I liked all of the characters. Techno is one of my new favourite best friend characters, the ADHD king lol

(Also sidenote, it was so so nice to see a show without any super overt product placement that wasn't easily tied to the story, just made it feel more real!)

To talk about the main two a little bit, Type is defnitely going to be the most difficult for everyone to stomach. And I very much agree, he is an asshole, and started out completely awful, but the show allows you to see past this posturing, bully of a facade, into the reasons behind that.

Tharn on the otherhand is out and proud about his sexuality. His issues are to do with abandonement, and the insecurities that follow from that. I simply love him. I love when he said "I'll never stop loving men" I love when he refused to be ashamed like Type was, how he was able to be open and vulnerable when faced with someone who very much was not.

If you don't want to read my feelings vomit below, TLDR: the story might be hard to watch at points, and characters difficutl to love, but like I did with the show, I'd highly recommend giving it a try. It's gonna hurt, but I think the pain is worth the love.

AND THIS IS WHERE THE SPOILERS START (with tw for rape and sexual assault)

The core of Type's being, what has molded a lot of his adult persona is that he was sexually assaulted when he was 10(ish?). The show doesn't go into too much detail, but the key point where all of his issues stem from is when he explains that his assailant made him ejaculate, made him feel like he/his body was enoying the assault, which made himfeel dirty and ashamed.
When Type says "I hate gays" it's because he hates himself, hates how men make him feel, hates how dirty he feels whenever he gets arroused or attracted by another man. Like how animals make themselves look bigger and angrier when scared or in danger.
I honestly could talk about him much more than this I have serious feelings about Type. He is my special angry wet kitten.

About Tharn and Type together, their beginning could not be rougher or messier. Type is fighting against his immediate atteaction by being the biggest, asshole he can be. Tharn immediately clocks what he thinks is the classic "homophobic closet case" and responds with overt flirting.
It gets into sexual harrassment and assault, which can't be sugarcoated, and shouldn't be belittled - but at the point when it goes too far, when Tharn is throwing himself at Type, holding him on his bed, and Type reacts not with anger like he has so far, but with genuine fear and terror, Tharn immediately bacs off horrified. I think this is the point when he sees somethig else is going on.

Then in the following episodes they still fight, still act with dubious consent, editing of the show makes things a bit difficult to understand and I ended up thinking I had missed some scenes, but they do manage to establish themselves as TharnType, just sex, only in secret, and still with so much baggage over both their heads.
I honestly love them together. How Type slowly opens up to Tharn, how Tharn refuses to take all Type's bullshit. Do I thik their relationship was healthy in the beginning, absolutely not, but I was able to understand it. And they do grow together, and I loved watching it unfold.

And the sex scene in the ep 13/special is definitely in my top 5, so quiet, intimate - they are so familiar and comfortable with each other at that point, know each other so well. It was just beautiful to watch.

I could have done withotu the twist at the end, but the Lhong reveal still surprised me and I didn't really see it coming! The way it was handled was also, unnecessary but I do understand that it's a TV show and needs to be dramatic so I wasn't too bothered lol, and if you then think back afterwards to the last 1-2 episodes you have seen, you can pick out few points where the reveal was foreshadowed and can pick out things poeple siad that with added context mean a lot more - so that was still really cool.

I haven't seen the S2 yet, but I am going into it with a hopeful heart. I hope it will deliver!

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Problematic, but.........

Never have I gone from so much hate to something almost like love before seeing this series.

First of all, if you only watch 6 episodes or less, you will hate it. There is no doubt about it. The beginning of the series is revolting. I had read the reviews and knew what I was getting into, and I was still disgusted by the rape "jokes," the homophobia (both blatant and ironically unintentional), the stereotyping of sexual assault victims, and the romanticized sexual assaults.

But morbid curiosity and my endeavor to watch all Thai BL dramas overcame everything and I finished the series. I fully expected to hate the entire thing.

But then, something strange happened.

By episode 7, I started to think that it was kinda not that bad anymore... and I weirdly started to ship TT together, even though two episodes ago I absolutely hated them both and would have rather watched them die slowly and painfully.

By episode 11 or 12, whenever it was that Type admitted to being in love with Tharn, I practically squealed with joy. How did this change come about? Well, I don't know exactly, but I will say this.

There will be people who watch all 12 episodes and still hate it. There are some potentially unforgivable issues (with Tharn's character in particular) that some may never be able to get past.

But, in my opinion, Type's character development, from beginning to end, was what really won me over. It was really awesome to watch him open up, learn to empathize, come to terms with being not-exactly-straight, and eventually become proud and confident about his love for Tharn. Almost more importantly though, was how thoughtful and selfless he became. How he puts himself and his relationship on the line to help bring justice for another childhood sexual assault victim, was like... damn. That really hit me. His character had come full circle, and I was so glad he got his happy ending.

I want to remind people to be careful about how they critique authors who write about sexual assault. My issue lies with Tharn not taking no for an answer and touching Type while he was asleep, and how Tharn never had to face any repercussions for it, and never realized he was doing something wrong. That's icky.

What's not icky, or wrong, or "annoying," or anything else negative, is to write about sexual assault and how it affects the rest of a character's life, or wanting to seek justice for what happened, or even wanting a knight in shining armor to save them from it.

I'm saying this because I saw someone on Twitter bash MAME for using gang rape as a cheap trick in all of her stories.

Some people use writing as a coping mechanism for dealing with trauma that might have happened to them or someone they love. They can write about it however they want.

If all stories only had perfect, flawless characters, there would be no story. Characters, like people, are going to make mistakes. It's about coming to terms with the difficult aspects of life, or overcoming them all together, that make a story good.

This story won me over in the end. I thought when I started the series that my review would end with "Do anything necessary to not watch this show," but instead, I will say, consider giving it a watch, as long as you make the time to watch it through until the end.

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Have to drop

Although I thought the acting in this series was some of the best I’ve seen in any Thai bl, the plot made me so viscerally angry I have to drop it for my own piece of mind. There is no way in hell I can root for Gulf’s character when he’s so unbelievably unlikeable, he literally hate crimed people and we’re expected to just let it go?! This show makes gay men seem like predators which I think is just a recipe for negativity from an outside audience. It was heartbreaking to see how Gulf’s character handled his abuse as a child but I think the notion that older gay men are praying on young boys is too harmful to forget. Older men who are attracted to little boys are not gay, they are pedophiles. I’m sure the story might wrap up nicely and resolve in the end but at this point, I’m too angry to continue to the end.

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OMG don't know where to start with this one. So many wrong thing happen in this drama, but also cute at the same time.... Hahaha...

This drama mostly about how your environment can shape you. We often hear how bad environment bad for you and good environment good for you. Well one thing for sure this drama really tell you story how your friendship really can shape who you are....

Let's talk about the good stuff first...
+ Like many many that already write here... I also really like the action between our boys. They're cute when nothing happen & all peaceful time. And that steamy scene also good...
+ Like Kate, I also like Techno. Agreed with her: 'He was one of the best written and most realistic ones.' And yeah that's probably because he is the only important role that have no trauma and mental health issues here. He is really one good friend.
+ The way Type own his mistake to his childhood friend, Khom
+ The very open minded of Tharn family. Especially the little princess, she's really like a baby doll, so pretty...

And i think that's probably are some of the good point that this drama have. The other is very very problematic....

The most problematic point already describe by Synchonicity & kate. But I gonna write again with my words....
- How the heck one traumatized boy fall in love & let himself be groped & have s*x with another man when the source of traumatic is a man... Yeah the writer take the issue of PTSD & rape victim too lightly till the point they don't care & still need to make this 2 boy fall in love with each other deeply...
- The missing friendship. Maybe just like Kate wrote, the writer need more than 12 ep to established our lead relationship first. We missing it badly. We need to know how tharn fall in love with type & the friendship begin at first...
- The MOLESTATION. How crazy the writer take the molestation easy & just make it into fluffy or even worse, romantic scene... What Tharn did to Type while he was sleeping is indeed MOLESTATION & it's never been ok all the time. Especially with the traumatized & PTSD man like Type...
- How can Type sleep peacefully...? If I'm Type, I have PTSD toward gay, & I know my roommate is gay, I'll not be able to sleep at all let alone sleep peacefully. I'll gonna be afraid what my Roommate will do to me while I'm sleeping, more over when I already know what he did to me while I'm sleeping, I gonna run as far & as fast I can. I'll gonna phone my dad the next morning to tell him that I NEED to move to outside dorm....
- Thorn is just too good. Until the end Thorn is just too good of a man. How can he easily forgive Lhong after what he did to his brother, yet alone face him calmly & still think he is his brother. And also with San, after what he did to his brother, Thorn can easily think him as a friend. It's all beyond makes sense for me.
- The ending. Or you can say LHONG'S ENDING. Yeah like Synchonicity, I also can't take the ending of Lhong that easily. He got away too easily & no consequences at all...
- The under age 'couple'. If this America drama, I think they already be charge with under age rape. The age when Tharn had sex with San or Tar with Tharn, I think you can say all still underage & the other partner already adult age. Yeah I know they make the age quite blurry, but when you do the math yeah I think you can say they're under age 'couple'.
- The jealous & ownship. Sometimes the writer make the jealousy part of the drama become something normal, like it part of the relationship that every couple must endure. But between jealousy and no trust is really basicly have no line.
- The childish & foul mouth of Type. Yeah even Type himself admit he has foul mouth. But the way he over & over hurt Thorn feeling is not OK.

Overall this one steamy drama with a lot of problematic issues .....

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