Between Us

Too many couples

I started watching this knowing that there were like 5 couples in total. i already knew from the start that i simply wouldnt care about the others and exactly that happened. not one of the other couples striked my interest so i mostly even skiped through their parts. i honestly dont know why they decided to put so many couples in this, especially because team and win wouldve had enough story for a show alone. I understand that dean and pharm were in this simply because they were already in until we meet again and i really didnt mind their screentime but everything else just seemed too packed for my liking. i did tho really enjoy team and win they were already my favorite couple in uwma so i didnt expect anything else but yeah i kinda lost my joy watching because of the amount of characters and different plotlines they squeezed into this. But overall i enjoyed watching between us

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A slightly different flavor of BL

I almost didn't watch this series because of a few negative comments, but I'm glad I didn't listen to them. I wasn't as into Until We Meet Again as other people seemed to be, but I waited for this series, because Team and Win seemed intriguing. By the end of episode 1, I was hooked.
First of all, I have to commend the acting and chemistry of pretty much everyone in this series, because they're all more or less on equal level, with the leads being obvious standouts. I even find the side couples adorable. I have a soft spot for more femme guys like Prince, so I was able to look past some of the more awkward aspects of the writing in that sideplot. The commentary on actor lives and being gay in the industry was probably something many needed to hear, but it was a little on the nose. Still, him and Bee were really cute.
I like that the main romantic storyline isn't predictable and cheesy, but flows naturally with the personalities and insecurities of the characters. Their development is organic, starting as physical attraction, and coming to care for each other the more time they spend together, slowly getting over their fears of the painful sides of opening up to another person and learning to embrace each other. There were I few times I wasn't sure what the writers were trying to achieve, but it could've been down to the translation. Overall, I found the development satisfying and way more fun to watch than the usual "I'm putting off confessing my feeling because of reasons".
Most of the characters, to my surprise, felt genuinely queer, which a lot of BLs fail to achieve, or rather don't even try to achieve. Aside from a few moments where I thought "Was this written by a straight person?", most aspects of their identities and relationships felt realistic to queer experiences.
There are things that bugged me, like the roots of Win's hair being very inconsistent and some scenes feeling too long, but those were far and few in between, and all of it was easy enough to overlook. What also annoyed me was that even after they slept together multiple times and even started dating, Team would still be like "wtf are you doing" when Win got too close and initiated physical contact. I know it's a BL staple to have one character be forward and another shy, but seeing it so many times without a change in dynamic over time is tiring, and I hoped I wouldn't have to watch it again.
Overall, it was a way more enjoyable experience than I anticipated, and now I'm off to read fanfics about these characters cause I got attached.

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I actually quite liked it, whoops

well, I quite enjoyed it. admittedly, I was kinda confused at first because I haven't seen until we meet again yet when I started this. I think it worked in my favour tho because I didn't have the hype factor as the other series. it wasn't like 'blow my socks off' amazing, but it made for an enjoyable journey throughout. the characters felt like actual people trying to figure themselves out and it was really sweet! so yeah, a pretty good time all around. I probably should've watched Until we meet again first to get all these loose ends tied up, but hey it is what it is.

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Between Boun and Prem

First time reviewing a BL that didn’t air recently I was a little worried of applying today’s standards and expectations to it ("error of presentism"). However, once I realized that "Between Us" aired roughly the same time as "My School President" and a year after "Bad Buddy", I knew I could safely apply my current standards and expectations to it. After all, 2022 is not 2016. Having that out of the way: as far as I understand, this show is inspired by the Win-Team storyline outlined in "Until We Meet Again". Generally it is new/original content for that couple that – I assume – should match glimpses into their relationship the audience got in "Until We Meet Again". I haven’t watched "Until We Meet Again" and even if I did, I wouldn’t check whether plotlines of both couples – Dean-Pharm and Win-Team – do properly interlock between both shows. I’m reviewing "Between Us" mostly as a standalone show and should I watch and review "Until We Meet Again" I’ll maintain the same approach.

The writing – as with most Thai BLs, both in 2022 and 2025 – isn’t the best.

Both main and side plotlines suffer from being generic (which on itself isn’t a problem) and there’s a lot of repetitiveness. Almost every episode main characters seem to be going full circle and returning to square one – and with little progression of their relationship the show drags on. I’ll blame it on the writer and her inability to write an intriguing and involving "slow burn" type of story.

Dialogues are bland, uninspired and often unnecessary (like stating the obvious or telling the audience something that should have been shown). Don’t get me wrong: there are meaningful and emotional exchanges, especially between Team and Win, there are examples of proper use of humor, banter and even sneer, but in general it sounds pretty mundane, like written by an early version of a chatbot.

What also surprised me was not the number of side characters – some of which were "inherited" from "Until We Meet Again" and sort of had to appear – but the number of side stories. Including a very rough outline of the Dean-Pharm was, to some extent, understandable and justified, but why were all the other side stories in this show? Did it really need all 4 (that’s four) side couples, and if so - why? Thanks to MDL I know that the writer of "Between Us" went on to co-write "We Are" and write (on her own, but basing on a novel by JittiRain) "Perfect 10 Liners", two shows suffering from the multiple couples syndrome, but did it begin here? Filling every paragraph of script with "couple content" and assuming that the more couples the better hardly is the correct way to do it, especially when the writing is bland and paper-thin. Was is done to fill the episodes with something besides Team and Win content? If so – what’s wrong with having 8 or 10 episodes instead of 12 or cutting all episodes to 45 minutes? Why not focus on the main couple and develop its story properly? There are other BL of similar length that have done it more than successfully – take "A Tale of 1000 Stars", which has one couple, a classic, nearly perfect "slow burn" buildup and more than enough content for 10 episodes.

What I liked about the writing was – despite of everything above – giving both Team and Win a proper background, revealed slowly and actually influencing what kind of persons they are, what they do, how they perceive the world (including themselves and each other) and what their relationship is like. While it may seem obvious that a script should include certain background elements for its main characters, this is often not the case – hence so many BL characters, including main ones, appear more like cardboard cutouts rather than actual humans. Not here, fortunately; both Team and Win are fully fledged characters. Team, in particular, is written like a proper multifaceted character, and this is the main reason why I’m not condemning the script of "Between Us" entirely.

As for performances, the situation is complex. With different writing I’d be inclined to say that most of the cast gave serviceable performances, but since 8 cast members were pushed from being conversation partners for main characters to being main characters in their own little side plots – one needs to include that. Ohm’s everlasting blank stare and Fluke’s permanently frightened expression – and the fact, that they stayed like that in almost every scene they were in – are signs of how poor their performances were. Sammy was annoying and difficult to watch while Bosston was just kind of there (Manow’s and Phreuk’s first encounter was cringy). Of the remaining side couples I was considering rooting for Prince and Bee, but there was too much of goofy, unfunny elements in Tae’s performance and something off-putting in Benz for me to actually do it.

Unsurprisingly, the only performances I was fond of were those of Prem and Boun – in that order. With very few exceptions, Prem did all of the heavy lifting here – and did a very good job. The multifaceted Team I mentioned before came to life thanks to Prem’s performance: Team the infantile teen, Team willing to go all in with a senior, Team trying to get a grip on himself after his first time, Team happy to eat everything around him, Team haunted by his past, drunk Team… Those and many more faces – all convincingly portrayed. An actual actor – more by talent and skill than by education or training – Prem stuck out every time he was in frame with someone else than Boun, outperforming the rest of the cast with ease. As for Boun, he had the "easy" job of portraying the nonchalant (but not cocky nor arrogant) senior – and that he did so effortlessly that one has to wonder whether he was acting or just being himself (judging from what he’s like behind the camera, during events, interviews etc. – yes, he was acting). But there’s more to the ethereal Win than that: a secret doubt, a vulnerability buried deep and hidden behind a façade of coolness – and Boun conveys it well. Together, Prem and Boun manage to make the often clunky dialogues sound good, doing the best with the material they got. Their efforts pay off and are by far the best part of the series, not just making it watchable, but making it actually worth watching. Where the script fails to create a true emotional progression, Prem and Boun do it themselves and end it with a powerful culmination in ep. 11. I cried with them during that long opening scene, filled with fear, love and sadness. Simply beautiful and very moving – a sure sign of true skill of both actors.

The soundtrack is rather average, with three songs receiving "official" MVs: "Your Smile" by Boun, "Unexpectedly" by O & Soodyacht and "It's Always You" by Prem. Out of the entire soundtrack it is that last song that stands out - not because of Prem's vocals (which aren't the strongest and get a lot of help from the music), but because it's a good song and an even better love/BL song performed with full dedication. Out of all Prem songs - and I'm writing this with a 2025 perspective - "It's Always You" is the best and I added it to my permanent BL playlist.

"Between Us" is a tad like two shows: the BounPrem main event surrounded by a plethora of side stories. My advice: skip (or fast forward) the inferior C-plots and go directly for what Prem and Boun bring to the table – that’s the meat of the show, the real money, the BL gold.

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Consent and communication are sexy: sweet BL romance handling well what could have been problematic

It could have been just a standard BL in a university setting but I found myself really impressed and entertained by the show. The main romance is beautifully simple, it checks all the usual boxes of a BL college drama but it is innovative in the way the main protagonists interact with each other with a lot of important conversations about consent, trauma, love and so on.

The storytelling handles impressively well what could have come off as quite problematic if poorly done: the sex scenes includes consent checks in a natural way. The script is all about consensual relationship where the senior does not overtly subdue his junior in having sex with him: it is much more balanced than in most BL.

Still, the drama is not exempt of flaws: there are a bit too much of flashbacks, as well as too many secondary couples (4 in addition of the main one !) to manage to properly develop in a convincing way all the secondary relationships. Some are more interesting than others and it might have been better to focus only on the main couple and 1 or 2 additional romances.

I liked the ensemble cast, there was a lot of characters linked together in some way and the atmosphere felt really natural between them. The two main leads had a solid chemistry: whether it be in their crying scenes, or in the more sexy times, or in their funny banters...I was totally sold on their acting. My heart ached and rejoiced with them. I found so charming all the whining antics of Team and the adoring way Win was looking at him. The most rebellious is not the necessarily the one with the most piercings and tattoos... Some of the secondary role less central were a bit more average with quite a bit of over-acting but without undermining my entertainment.

I liked the OST, it was not standing out but nice. What I found really enjoyable was all the animal sound effects punctuating the conversations between the two main leads (kitty meow, lion roar,...): it was super cute and fun. Overall production was great, with some really lovely beach scenes. The super hot tattoos of one of the characters were entrancing and superbly highlighted by the filmmaking.

I would recommend this to people looking for a sweet BL romance which is constantly full of green flags with characters communicating with each other and having a nice evolution in their relationships. There are some dramatic elements to the plot but overall there are no major conflicts or non-sensical narrative choices: it is an healing love story wholesome and uplifting. I have not seen the parent story "Until We Meet Again" but I will likely give it a go after watching this drama already satisfying to me as a standalone.

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Win and Team Performed Well

The drama story was catchy, the same old university setting. There were lots of supporting characters. All the characters were beautiful and handsome (if you want to watch handsome men and their handsome bodies, this series is for you) it was sometimes annoying because I watched the drama as Art (I watch everything from production, acting, editing, song, story and everything as Art). Handsome characters were distracting and kept me not focusing on the story. maybe which was what the director was looking for.
The Drama has everything a typical Thai university has but more scenes were based on the swimming club, dorm rooms, and Bar. All the friends get to gather and friends fun. With all of this fun, you will be totally about the story. The story wasn't much though. "Just spending life in university and finding love".
There were forced edit scenes of Dean and Pharm which were not needed at all and also distracting, making me think about the 'Until We Meet Again' series.
The drama Edits gives each supporting role so much screen time that it made every effort to make this drama general university life and not focus on the story. Even though the Win and Team story had lots of potential.
This drama pool side and water scene were shots early and all other scenes were shot in winter. Win had different hair colors. This showed that this drama didn't receive careful consideration from technical staff as compared to Dean and Pharm's series "Until We Meet Again".
With lots of Loopholes, This is a fun drama to watch with friends together on vacation or on weekends.

This drama has a good life lesson, that the writer might wanted teens and youth to know. Childhood trauma stays with us for a long time until we face it but we, alone are not strong enough to face it. we need our loved ones to stand with us to face it and heal our heart with their love and care. The second lesson was spreading awareness even though this culture has accepted different forms of relationships, the criticism still exists. They don't leave any chance to let you know how much they hate this with their harsh comments. This is our duty to not respond to it and to focus on our loved ones.

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love the show but i think we needed more.

I love the chemistry between Team and Win but it taking them 11 episodes to make their feelings known to each other was annoying. I understand where both of them are coming from with win being the middle child having trouble relaying his feelings because being the middle child often feel ignorant having to take care of his family and brothers but I feel like he could rely on Team more on that aspect. It was mostly Team relying on Win. Team helping win with his family problems, maybe the family business, etc. I feel like for team we could have gotten more into the backstory and how he started having trouble sleeping. The Last few episodes we see a bit of what he's dreaming about but we don't see what happens to him after that. Does he go to therapy? Does his parents know he cant sleep? Did he go to the doctors for help ? We know that after the accident, he started training more and ended up getting a scholarship for swimming because he was trying to amend his cousin death as it was always their plan to get the gold and silver medals at the competition together.

On another note, I would have loved to see more of Prince and Bumble Bee (Bee). I love their relationship and the chemistry between the two actors is phenomenal. However, near the end of the series I feel like it was rushed. I think they could have took ore time developing their bond with one another or do a series focusing on their relationship. Bee was my favorite supporting actor in the beginning for how award he was but in the middle he seemed to change. I'm happy he stuck up for his relationship but his attitude change drastically ( at least to me ) I know this series was more focused on the relationship of WinTeam but if they wanted to add more relationship I fee like they could have given us more updates on what was happening. In the pilot episode we see more of Team's friendship with the ABC crew but then we hardly see them after a few episodes.

Now, on to the relationship of Tul and Wan. I love how they first met on the game and confine in one another. Wan really needed someone to talk too other than his family. Someone that understood him and was willing to listen to what he had to say. With win being away at University he couldn't really confine with his closest brother. I don't like how the made Wen automatically push Tul away when he found out who T-Rex was in person. After talking to him for so long and pushing him away after finding out he's your brothers friend. Just verity that Tul's fear of being rejected was right. Tul only lied because he was scared that Wan would only see him as his little brothers friend. Not even bothering to hear the explanation on why he didn't tell him about knowing who he was and why he kept his identity a secret. I could understand not trusting Tul for a while after that and making him work for your trust. I understand Wen having the trust issues that he has already then finding out the one person you trusted with everything going on in your life , was lying is a horrible realization. But you trusted him for a reason. Ill admit Tul not telling Wen was wrong but falling inlove with someone that is a relative to a friend is a scary situation to be in especially if you don't know how they feel about you.
The last episode when they go to the hotel is another story, when I love how Win's trying to help Wen and Tuls relationship . Secretly getting Wen to admit his feeling , not knowing Tul's listening. If that's not little sibling behavior I don't know what is. But when Tul and Wen talk in the hotel room and Tul kisses him. Wen pushes away and says Tul's moving too fast and doing too much after just forgiving him but a few seconds later its Wen's who escalates things farther than just a kiss.

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an attempt to a non bias review (as a bp and winteam fan)

i, very much, believe that anyone giving between us anything less than a 4 a very harsh review and are viewing this as the fantastical series like uwma (which it isn’t) this is an emotion based plot, emotions are what drives our two main characters. i also believe that people are still viewing winteam as the comedic side pairing from uwma with the sponsored scenes. trust me when i say that i am trying my hardest to give an unbiased review, between us has been in the works since uwma stopped filming, bounprem were told by new that a hemp rope series adaption was in the works (at the time the novel wasn’t finished) but obviously covid happened along with medical emergencies and a hiatus from lazy sheep (author of red thread and hemp rope) causing the project to be delayed.

besides that, between us was never going to be the same story or be any where near the same story as uwma. between us is a love story that can happen to anyone unlike uwma (the concept of reincarnation) i’ve read many reviews stating that win and team were out of character in between us compared to uwma and that where i’m stumped because … how are they out of character?? we have very limited screen time of any solo win/team scenes in uwma, all we knew at the time was win and team are in the swim club alongside dean and have something going on (and team has a very deep love for chips.)

i believe that anyone who is calling winteam “out of character” are just looking for reasons to be upset or give between us a bad review.

now im not calling between us a perfect story/series not a single show is perfect and between us definitely isn’t. i did have a problem with screentime dealing with winteam and the side pairings. i love every single one of these characters but would i have loved some more screentime for winteam? yes i would’ve! the thing is that the hemp rope novel at the start of filming had enough content for seven episodes AT MOST, so of course they are going to need to fill in that space with side pairings (not complaining i love all side pairings).

back to winteam: i love them. they are such raw and emotional people. boun and prem did such an incredible job portraying them after so many years. they are such realistic portrayals of two people being scared of pursuing a relationship. “why didn’t they get together sooner?!/?-$:?” 1.because it’s studio wabi sabi and they love to play with our emotions. 2. because not all relationships start conventionally. some back story on team (in the novel) he has only been in one relationship that ended after two months so it wasn’t serious. that night in the first episode was his First Time, he is 18 years old, he is basically still a kid, a kid who has had to dealt with some pretty nasty ptsd, so yeah an 18 year old with ptsd is going to have trouble with communicating his feelings. win, my dear 20 year old bisexual middle child who has had to shove his feelings down to take care of everyone else around him, will also very clearly have some difficulty with sharing his feelings as well.

this is both their first attempt at a very serious relationship (not taking into consideration team almost dying in front of win) so OF COURSE THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TROUBLE COMMUNICATING RELATIONSHIPS ARE DIFFICULT WHEN YOU TAKE IN ACCOUNT CHILDHOOD TRAUMA.

i’m going to end it off here because i can actually sit here and defend every single last point to this show because i’m crazy and over analyze every single last detail to this show.

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Expected more from R-rated series

I fell in love with Win and Team in UWMA and hated how very few moments they had. In my opinion, it would be better not to let Dean and Pharm have all the screen time and add there Win and Team because in these series it sometimes felt like the screenwriters didn't know anymore what to add to their story.
I guess it was naive to think they'll have more hot scenes like in the shower or more bed scenes. I have to look somewhere else. Dean and Pharm also didn't have any hotter scenes, it was more about the repeating of the suicide which isn't for little kids. Like in UWMA, the tragic moment here was also repeated too often. Ut was important to know the cause of Team's nightmares but it doesn't have to be shown in every episode. It's not pleasing to see the drowning so often. But the end amazed me how Team's Aunt comforted him to know it's not his fault. Very touching movement.
Tbh, I was curious about Team being introduced to Win's family. Their father seemed really strict and controlling so I was curious about how he'd take it when Win was so quickly welcomed in Team's family but it was left opened. What they did better is they had side couples have their moments unlike in UWMA. Well, Manow could have more moments with Phruak but it was aimed for bl fans so we got two more bl couple plus Dean and Pharm.

What I really liked is that it wasn't just about sex. There aren't any explicit scenes (idk about uncut version) but it started like this. There are many signs of love like taking care of the other when he's sick, trembled. Cooking for the other one. Missing each other... support, hug but their dating phase took too long. They started dating at the end but were in love since ep 1 just couldn't admit it.
Really, the story was great but it was just missing something and it didn't look so thought through. More like fanfiction but still great and entertaining.

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okayy i haven't watched UWMA just to be clear

okayy i haven't watched UWMA just to be clear

okay so during the very first ep., I thot this drama is def gonna be slow paced but then omggggg the winteam end up doing it in the very first episode.. and i was stunned at that fact. This actually made me change my mind and i thot if it was slow paced.. will they really have sex in the very first ep?? and bruhhh omggg the sex scene of the fist el was too damn hott especially the consent part omgggg "call my hia win" that line was too hot ahhh.. okay but also I don't get the fact why win asked team to call him hia(brother) but let's jst ignore that

now in the second ep.. it was the same slow development but at the end the have sex.. and omg that was hot too.. like the sexual tension between winteam is simply mesmerising.. the way win looks at team.. and the way team breathes heavily omgggggg

then.. oh Lord the way they made us suffer... they showed all those scenes in the first 2 eps.. and the directly in ep 11..kmg omgggg
like I was def expecting there to be more sex scenes but no those scenes were not there and yet this series managed to lure me in (yeah I do like a lotta steamy scenes in dramas)

then the next tfew eps were kjnda boring to watch but at the same time they were quite enjoyable.. like j felt j just sat thru the next few eps.. but then omgg the whole "I realised I have feelinfs for him" part was amazing..
like both were in love w eo but win had this idea of not being able to call anything mine and fear of losing.. and team was simpley unsure of his feelings and finally they spoke out everything in ep 11 and oh boyyy... the acting in that eps was mindblowing... their crying faces seemed soo real. aand the way the told things thru singing was amazingg
tbh at around ep 5 or 6 I was quite determined to give this show a rating of 6.5 le 7 but that quickly changed once I saw ep 11 like that was just ahhhh
and that last ep where everyonnnww gathers together smiling happilg made me cry tears of joy (maily coz of wjnteam) like the way win was looking at teamm and hot they needed up ahhhhhhhh

okayy now the rating I've given was solely based on winteam and not the other couples (ik it doesn't makes sense since I'm rating the drama and the drama includes all the couples sk how can i rate based on winteam ky? well coz they are the main focus of the series.. like the series is mainly about THEM)

TAlkin abt the other characters(no hate to actors)
DEAN.. I'll straight up say I didn't like the acting.. like I just didn't like the way this character carries himself and the way he projects himself in front of people.. alsk the acting of this character also seems a bit off j just plainly didnt like it

PHARM is that shy little bottom acting cute all the time like not exactly "acting cute" but if I'm being honest.. I don't like it when people do this ohh I'm shy ohh I'm gonna look away, up, down coz I'm shy.. oh j gonna act cute in front of my bf/gf(this happens a lot in korean dramas.. that's y I didn't like cherry blossoms after winter) so like if all these things happen I just feel irrotated like brook wthhh and pharm is really that timid, soft, no self respect? kinda character which j hatee(again ni hate to actor coz idk him at all)

Manow.. okay so this character is quite nice outgoing.. making people laugh.. good sense of jimkur and all but the problem is that she is quite annoying and a bit cringey at times.. but id say whenever she comes up altho I get annoyed too much a smile wd still appear on my face coz she's always smiling and also coz of the dialouges(script)

okay now I wanna say smthing about manow pharm and teams friendship.. like tbh I really hated the fact that they kinda hide things from eo.. like how do u call them friends if they have secrets.. like tbh idk if they three were that close of frie ds to share everything but i still didn't like how each of them were trying to keep the fact secret that they have met their lover and always changed the topic when it came up.. (or maybe I'm just kberthinking a d you don't have to share EVERYTHING with your friends ds?)


preuk.. I do t have anything to say abt him.. this character is just there coz of manow.. oh but he's good at hibin advice to win.. and also j noticed this characters way of speaking resembles p'win's way of speaking from f4thailand which I watched recently

ABC were also quite cringe to watch.. overreactimg al the time

TALKING abt Bee and prince their story was okay but Bee omg he acts like a guy mad in love and like I just don't know how tk describe him but anyways I didn't like him either

so yeah I have a lotta negative comments abt the side characters but that's just my opinion nk hate to anyone
.. but yeah if I wd have rated this show based on all the couples it wd have been low.. but I never do that like i personally just focus on the main couple of the show the side ones like if they are not there.. it wouldn't bother me (that's too harshhh)

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