I'm looking forward to the next project from the actors involved. I'm not forcing it to be soon, but I hope they can act together again.
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Se fosse só pelo final e pelas piadas, eu dropava… mas Joker não deixou <3
Eu entrei nessa série porque adoro BL com ação, e acabei ficando pelo drama, pela dor e, principalmente, pelo Joker. A luta dele pra ser aceito, pra ter espaço num mundo que só quer moldá-lo, me tocou. Foi impossível não me apegar. O Jack também tem seu peso na história, com dilemas fortes e uma trajetória difícil, mas foi o Joker que ficou comigo.A série manda muito bem na ação, e nisso ela não decepciona nem por um segundo. As coreografias são incríveis, bem filmadas e muito bem executadas. Eu cheguei a achar que os atores eram lutadores na vida real, de tanto que mandaram bem. As cenas são intensas, bem dirigidas, e conseguem ser emocionantes mesmo nos momentos mais técnicos. A parte visual ajuda muito também, com um clima tenso e urbano que combina com o enredo, apesar de alguns efeitos especiais não serem tão bons assim.
Agora… se você tá procurando romance, talvez não seja aqui. A relação entre o Jack e o Joker é linda, cheia de nuances, cumplicidade e até desejo ali no meio, mas não chega a tocar como um romance de verdade. Falta desenvolvimento, falta profundidade emocional entre os dois. O carinho existe, a conexão existe, mas tudo é muito mais sugerido do que vivido. Então, se sua expectativa for o romance, pode bater uma frustração. Mas se o foco for ação e drama bem feitos, vai fundo sem medo. Nem mesmo os personagens secundários vivem um romance de fato visível, tudo é muito sugerido, tudo é muito "a gente namora tá, não esqueçam disso" e seguem agindo mais como amigos íntimos que como casal de fato.
Sobre o final, não foi exatamente satisfatório, não vou mentir. E não tô nem falando do Save ter... vocês sabem o quê. É mais esse clima de “todo mundo bonzinho” no fim, como se tudo tivesse se resolvido com um abraço e um laço de fita bonito por cima. Sabendo o tipo de mundo que eles vivem, comandado por ricaços, corrupção, violência e esquemas pesados, esse felizes para sempre não convence tanto assim. Mas mesmo assim, dentro da proposta da série, foi um final decente.
Agora, vamos falar de um ponto que me doeu fisicamente: as cenas “cômicas”. Gente… teve umas que eu precisei pular real. A vergonha alheia bateu com força. E o auge pra mim foi o Jack Cachorro. Aaaaaaaaaa. Que dor. Que dor. Parecia que eu tava assistindo outra série por alguns minutos. Essas tentativas forçadas de alívio cômico não funcionaram comigo, só quebravam o clima e me tiravam totalmente da imersão.
Mesmo com esses tropeços, Jack and Joker ainda entrou pros meus favoritos. Pela carga emocional, pelos personagens e pelas lutas incríveis. Não é perfeito, mas é marcante.
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Une alchimie toujours efficace, mais une intrigue qui s'étend sans raison…
La comédie m'a prise au dépourvu, tandis que l'histoire a fini par me laisser sur le carreau. J'aurais pu abandonner ce drama, mais j'ai toujours apprécié Yin et War, dont l'alchimie, malgré des personnages peu développés, est restée entraînante.Je ne les avais pas revus depuis Love Mechanics (2022), néanmoins, j'avais gardé un bon souvenir, et il ne fait aucun doute qu'ils n'ont rien perdu de leur alchimie. Elle n'est pas explosive, en revanche, elle est calme et intense. Tout comme leur relation qui progresse lentement, passant d'amis à ennemis et amants. Ce n'est pas la plus belle romance, cela dit, elle fonctionne. En revanche, les personnages ne sont pas étoffés, ça se ressent sur l'enchaînement des décisions tant sur le plan amical que romantique.
L'ensemble de la distribution est bon, malgré un manque de développement des personnages. Certains vont et viennent sans raison : Hope, Save, Nang ou encore Rosé. Même Tattoo, Hoy et Aran me laissent perplexes. C'était comme s'ils servaient qu'à faire tourner la machine. Pourtant, sans eux, l'histoire ne serait que plus vide.
Pour moi, le vrai problème de Jake & Joker, c'est d'avoir un Robin des Bois des temps modernes qui élabore des plans précaires tout en comptant sur la chance. Dans un même temps, cette chance amène de la comédie. Si ça fonctionne sur les premières minutes, au bout d'un moment, c'est trop. La tension ne monte jamais en raison d'un bruitage ou d'un gag. Certes, l'histoire n'invente rien, on pouvait ne pas avoir de grandes attentes, mais j'espérais une histoire fluide. Or, l'équilibre des genres n'est pas bon. De plus, le format de 12 épisodes était trop long. Avec deux de moins, cela aurait permis de ne pas rallonger l'histoire qui n'en avait pas besoin.
Il y avait de bonnes idées, notamment le jeu des Quatre Cavaliers sur fond de critique sociale. Le jeu (un Monopoly géant) m'a rappelé l'opulence et l'excentricité de Hunger Games. Cette façon décomplexée de s'enjailler autour de ce plateau pour savoir quels quartiers (/districts) ils vont remporter. Il aurait été intéressant de prendre cette direction. Cependant, la mise en scène frôle le ridicule plus d'une fois alors que le jeu n'est qu'un simple élément de l'intrigue. Il n'a pour unique but de créer des méchants (pas si méchants pour certains) en mousse et un ridicule grain de sable sur la prétendue critique sociale.
En bref, pour moi, Jake & Joker n'est ni un chef-d'œuvre ni un incontournable. Ce n'est pas le plus mauvais de son genre, mais pour être honnête, sans Yin et War, je n'aurais pas insisté davantage. L'histoire manque de fluidité et de scènes marquantes, tandis que les antagonistes ne sont que des caricatures peu crédibles.
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10/10 Amazing!
As someone relatively new to the Boys' Love (BL) genre, 1 have explored several titles and recently came across "Love Mechanic," which I found absolutely captivating. I was particularly impressed by the characters and the performances of the actors. The decision to create this series and feature many of the cast members from "Love Mechanic" was a delightful reunion. Interestingly, my husband also enjoys watching it, drawn in by the action, while I appreciate the depth of the storyline. Overall, I would describe this show as exceptional thus far, and it has certainly set a high standard for future series in this genre.The chemistry between the lead actors is palpable, making every scene they share both compelling and emotional. The intricate plot twists keep viewers on the edge of their seats, while the tender moments provide a heartfelt balance.
Moreover, the production quality is top-notch, with beautifully crafted sets and thoughtful cinematography that enhances every episode. The soundtrack, too, deserves a mention; it perfectly complements the narrative, evoking the right emotions at the right times.
It's heartening to see a show that not only entertains but also resonates on a deeper level, exploring themes of love, trust, and personal growth. I look forward to seeing how the story unfolds and hope it continues to
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The world has always been a place full of light and shadows. Regardless of the stage in human history, crises have often led us to think that we are living in the worst times. However, the economic situation, racial tensions, the resurgence of fascism, genocide on defenseless peoples, hunger and hopelessness have always been present in our history.
In a world where money and power guarantee that athletes, some without deserving it, take a place on the national team of their sport..., in a world where the poor, including children and the elderly, live in misery and have to work sun to sun to try, without success, to pay their debts and be able to put a crust of bread in their mouth..., in a world where being rich certifies that you cannot go out on the streets at the wrong time, because they can kidnap you for ransom..., in a world that shows the most cynical face of economic power and the amorality of the media, political and economic universe..., in a world where the oppression of the individual prevails at the hands of an alienating system, inhabit the characters of 'Jack & Joker U Steal My Heart!'.
It is in this world where Joker, a master of disguise and a skilled conman, emerges as a rebellious political and social subject. This is how he decides to lead a double life. Boastful and gifted at conversation, he is secretly a notorious thief wanted by the police. Using his exceptional disguise skills, he steals from wealthy oppressors and redistributes their wealth to help the weak and needy.
Joker is, in short, an antihero. The figure of the antihero has reigned in cinema and television series since modernity. Far from the stereotypes of good and bad, these multi-dimensional characters are more attractive to the public than heroes and villains. The antihero presents more humanity, therefore more contradictions, and this can make viewers come to love them in a matter of seconds. And this precisely happens in this 12 episode drama produced by Dee Hup House.
We are facing a transgressive series that distances itself from the bombastic epic and expansive narrative of superhero stories. We are facing a series whose main character reminds us at times of Walter White from 'Breaking Bad', an antihero who represents criticism of the American dream, who brings to light the limitations of the American middle class and the neoliberal health system; Jack Sparrow, the famous pirate who brought chaos with him and was not afraid to lie and take advantage of others, while trying to help his friends; Loki, the well-known "God of lies", who has a tendency to betray his family, but at the same time provokes laughter with his actions and phrases full of egocentrism and who was finally able to redeem himself and become the favorite antihero of the Marvel films; or Deadpool, a popular antihero thanks to his black sense of humor, high-sounding language and sarcasm who, due to his originality and lack of fear of saying what he thinks, breaks the mold of those who were considered a Marvel hero and, for this reason, everyone likes him wants.
The main character of 'Jack & Joker U Steal My Heart!' It reminds us, without a doubt, of Joker, the character created by Bill Finger, Bob Kane and Jerry Robinson, and introduced in the first issue of the comic book "Batman", in April 1940, published by DC Comics, becoming one of the favorite characters for their originality, and, he is equally, or more popular than his archenemy Batman. Let us remember that his cruel past causes him to explode violently and, in the end, he manages to accept himself as he is, with all the evil, thirst for power and tireless fight with the Batman.
The chain of suffering and melancholy that drags the Joker of the Thai series by director Tee Bundit Sintanaparadee, recognized for directing the BL dramas 'I Saw You in My Dream' (2024), 'I Feel You Linger in the Air' (2023) , 'Hidden Agenda' (2023), 'Step by Step' (2023), 'Lovely Writer' (2021), and 'TharnType' (2019 – 2020), among others, is so palpable and shocking that the viewer has no other choice. The only way out is to identify both his family and society as the true villains of the show, in addition to allowing us to empathize with him.
But it will not be in a Gotham City inspired by New York in the 70s, for many, the darkest stage of the American city and where hope seemed to be lost, but in Bangkok in 2024, just as dark, violent and corrupt than that.
This is the perfect setting to tell a story that deviates somewhat from the original and twists its path of explaining how evil arises in the world, to reflect a beautiful love story between two boys, with which many people can feel curiously identified.
In this way, the sordid world of Joker, a high school student who is pressured by his parents to enroll in medical school, will turn upside down when he meets Jack, an 18-year-old taekwondo player who decides to leave the sport when he becomes discouraged the road, all in the effort to help his elderly grandmother, the only living relative he has left. The dreamy, reasonable and kind Jack, who likes to help others, will be forced to become a debt collector.
His and Joker's lives will change abruptly and unexpectedly when they find themselves involved in a complicated situation, giving way to a love-hate relationship.
The Joker of the audiovisual of the Southeast Asian country is liked and exudes a controversial charm for the population in general and the LGBT+ community in particular. And this is basically due to two things, the first is that as a viewer we manage to empathize with the human being and not just with the character. In this series, and due above all to the sublime performance of the actor who brings Joker to life, we are presented with a very human and sensitive person, despite the dramatic events that have led him to be who he is.
Second, one thing is obvious: their misdeeds are not fueled by the desire for money, personal ambitions, or other material goals. Their motivations are ideological and philosophical. It is the darkness rebelled after a dark childhood and adolescence, despite living in a wealthy family; it is the Shadow that emerges after the impact of a society that attacks and excludes, that ignores the weak, that feeds itself on its own corruption.
The character represents the Shadow that is in us. His actions remind us, without a doubt, of the concept of Shadow that Carl Jung told us about. Adverse impulses live within us that we must accept and bring to light to heal them and proceed to healing. The psychological profile of the Joker shows us, as can be deduced from the trailers, that the character lets his Shadow escape to give way to a healing process thanks to love.
What will happen when Joker's actions affect the needy and vulnerable he aims to help? What will happen when the innocent are punished for their actions?
It is not the first time that Joker, who perhaps represents that part of us that longs to break the rules and react, is represented on screen. We remember the character played by Jack Nicholson ('Batman', 1989 - Tim Burton), who brings us a gangster, that of Heath Ledger ('The Dark Knight', 2008 - Christopher Nolan), who gives us an agent of chaos, that of Jared Leto ('Suicide Squad', 2016 - David Ayer), a true sociopath, or that of Joaquin Phoenix ('Guazón', 2019 - Todd Phillips), who draws a famous crime clown and the most villainous multifaceted character of the world of comics, which transcends even the limits of his own personality and offers us a clear warning sign and a direct invitation to reflect on current societies.
However, the cunning Joker, played by the young Thai actor and musician War Wanarat Ratsameerat, remembered for playing Than in the short film 'Because I Love You' from the series 'The Right Man', in 2016, which marked his debut acting, he is a very human and vulnerable character, which is why we empathize so intensely with him. It is impossible not to put yourself in his shoes when you see how, upon discovering that his actions affect others, he without hesitation tries to correct them, even if this means admitting to his family his failure and true identity, as well as paying with years in prison.
Very plausible solution is how we can feel sympathy for a character who tries to outwit his authoritarian parents and a brother who seems to enjoy his failures as a student, and reveals himself to the shortcomings of a society incapable of assisting and giving an effective response to those who need it.
Despite coming from a privileged family, Joker suffers from a lack of affection. Unlike Jack, he does not find affection in his family life, and this has turned him into a lonely being, hungry and thirsty for love. However, we are not dealing with a person with antisocial or sociopathic personality disorder characterized by committing violent and bloodthirsty acts.
For his part, although he comes from a cosmos in which poverty, lack of material goods and the absence of his deceased parents prevail, Jack has a sweet and generous grandmother who understands and supports the young man in his daily conflicts. Much of Jack's sweetness and nobility, undoubtedly, comes from the upbringing given to him by this noble being.
Adrift from their lives, trying to find their place in the world, both of them, with such different and contrasting personalities, meet and their universes collide. And this serves to address other topics, such as memory, absence, maturity, the process of growing up, self-esteem, family expectations, the feeling of never being enough in the face of the complexity of life, discovery, acceptance, recognition…
'Jack & Joker U Steal My Heart!' It also stands out for reflecting the pressure cooker state of urban centers, and is an undisputed daughter of its time. That a stranger in a collar and tie robs a bank after being previously considered its manager, or that a young woman is chased by three violent thieves, portrays the convulsive city and its suffocating system.
The series also works in its effort to make queer people visible. Its creators know that the LGBT+ community is growing rapidly: one in six members of Generation Z in the United States identifies as part of this human group. The data also shows that LGBT+ audiences have an increasing need to see LGBT+ characters in series and films with which they feel identified.
In all this endeavor, War, in a monumental role, does not carry all the dramatic weight of the series. From the first minute, "Yin" Anan Wong, the Thai-Hong Kong actor who plays Jack, stands out in his role as a reasonable man who believes in solving problems without the use of force and has the conviction that "The strength one possesses should be used only to protect the weak," but as a debt collector he will have to impose an intimidating presence, far removed from his personality.
The chemistry between the two main actors goes beyond the physical realm, but is emotional, psychological and completely satisfying. It turns out that these two actors know each other well. They have been lovers in 'En of Love: Love Mechanics', 'En of Love: Tossara', 'En of Love: This is Love Story', all from 2020, and 'Love Mechanics' and 'Love Mechanics: Director's Cut', 2022, BL series in which War plays Mark and Yin plays Vee. They are also the protagonists of 'The Best Story' (2021), in which the former plays Best and the latter plays Dew.
Their performances, authentic, vivid, intense, are sublime as they masterfully embody the raw emotions and internal struggles of their characters through words, silences, looks...
Screenwriters Myminorh Sarun Kaensap ('Peaceful Property', 2024), Pacharawan Chaipuwarat ('Shadow', 2023), Yui Athima Iamathikhom ('Wannabe', 2022), and Anawat Kitchawengkul ('GGEZ', 2018), combine perfectly the genres of action, romance, crime and drama, to deliver a coherent, complex and uncomfortable story that works as a great mirror of contemporary society.
On a technical level, it is important to highlight that the series has an impeccable setting, raw photography and a beautiful soundtrack that take the viewer through sensations and moments that make this a journey into the depths of human despair and the need to stay afloat, especially thanks to love and nobility.
With a masterful performance, a forceful script and a clear social discourse, 'Jack & Joker U Steal My Heart!' it's not just a boy's love story. It is a necessary work to understand that today there are issues that cannot be ignored. Violence, political corruption, social class contradictions, poverty, and evil have origins that must be faced and despite how dark the present may seem, crises do not last forever. Better times will always come, if people like Jack and Joker come together to do the right thing.
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TOCA CORINGA BY JÃO
assim eu assisti essa depois de ver love mechanics então acho que isso acabou impactando minhas expectativaseu gostei da história, mas senti que em vários momentos certas coisas não eram tão necessárias para a trama e que se tivessem menos eps ou os eps fossem mais curtos ia funcionar melhor. acho que a história seria mais una dessa forma.
porque sério, acho que essa história é dividida em umas três partes, mas se fossem só duas iam funcionar bem melhor, se fosse mais intenso também....
tipo se a rivalidade do jack e do joker durasse mais e fosse mais intensa, se o boss fosse mais aprofundado, se os cavaleiros lá, aquela mulher, a nang, e os personagens secundários fossem mais bem trabalhados e explorados, acho que seria outra parada.
fora que teve várias coisinhas, tipo o pai da toi ting sumindo e aparecendo no último ep por sla 5 segundos e depois fodase ele, que nâo se fecharam direito e ai me deixou com uma sensação de "acho que eles esqueceram disso".
fora que eu não esperava que essa série tivesse esse tom cômico, eu aceitei isso imediatamente quando tava assistindo, mas eu realmente não esperava, esperava que fosse mais séria.
mas no geral eu gostei, as cenas de luta, por exemplo, eu até que achei que foram boas
não odiei o casal criar uma criança (o que é um milagre porque eu costumo odiar histórias com ou sobre maternidade, paternidade, gravidez, etc.)
adorei a avó do jack
gostei bastante que no começo o jack e o joker sairam na porrada
gostei da confissão + cena de sexo
gostei muito do joker
achei engraçadinho o grupo de amigos
etc
só não achei essa tão boa quanto love mechanics, que eu realmente me envolvi com os personagens (falo mais do casal aqui) a ponto de considerar muito boa apesar de algumas falhas que ela também carrega.
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VOCÊ GOSTA DE ROMANCES SEM ROMANCE E UM ROTEIRO CANSATIVO? *MELODRAMA SUPERESTIMADO*
Vamos lá, eu comecei essa série porque achei a sinopse interessante, dentre as coisas que eu mais gostei na história está a personalidade dos protagonistas (eles não são certinhos o tempo todo e eu gosto disso, é chamado de moralidade cinzenta), a rixa inicial e o potencial para Tattoo e Aran serem um casal.Após terminar eu só tenho uma coisa a dizer... "que decepção".
Primeiro de tudo, a história é muito longa e ainda sim é como se nada estivesse acontecendo, em certo ponto era como ver as mesmas cenas se repetindo e você sabia exatamente como ia acabar.
O enredo cômico foi excessivo aqui, simplesmente não fazia sentido o quão brusca era a troca de tom dentro de uma mesma cena, primeiro estávamos no meio de brigas, agressividade e luta corporal para em questão de segundos ter a cena mais patética possível com piadinhas ruins e aura infantilizada.
Se você for assistir isso com o intuito de ver um romance você pode desistir, assista apenas se você quiser ver uma série de ação com pitadas de romance e várias redenções para muito personagens {pois é claro que todo mundo tem que ser "bonzinho" e clarear a moralidade cinzenta do começo (o que é patético)}.
E olha que eu nem falei do final... sem comentários.
O que vai fazer você gostar dessa série é estar procurando por ação, alívio cômico exagerado, um roteiro longo que se estende demais se tornando cansativo e um final "surpreendente". Definitivamente não é o meu estilo, mas eu reconheço o esforço.
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