THIS IS MY FAVOURITE EPISODE SO FAR ♡ (Episode 8)
Everything about this series is just Amazing!! The acting, Music, OSTs, Filmography, Cinematography, Colour tones, Costumes, Makeup and you call whatever it is.. everything is next level. I haven't seen this level of production in another Thai BL to be honest. I wish TBNW to win all those awards out there, the whole crew deserves that.Kudos to BossNoeul for their outstanding performance, both of them has developed their acting skills so much despite this being their second series. The way they conveyed the feelings through expression is the best, sometimes they didn't have to cry to make me feel the same sadness so that I ended up crying even when they didn't. They outperformed themselves in the NCs as well, it's always sensual to watch, I feel like I am intruding their personal moments.
I feel like this series is so so underrated! I hope more people will find this beautiful series and enjoy it. 🫶
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Watch it with an open mind
Of course with a lot of sci-fi shows, the answer wouldn’t be revealed within the first 5 episodes. That defeats the point of watching, this series is a series you need to pay attention to and put pieces together. It was fun waiting each week to find out what happened next, it keeps you on your toes and keeps you coming up with theories. If you don’t like stuff like that don’t watch it. But don’t get upset that it didn’t go the way you wanted it, nobody forces yall to watch these series and leaving bad reviews when you haven’t either watched the entire show or tried to put pieces together and took time to understand it is definitely a strange choice. Some of yall weren’t raised right and it’s sad… anyways I loved this series, I loved the plot, the music, the acting, the cinematography.Was this review helpful to you?
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Why You So Obsessed With Me!?!
This was the MAMEiest plot twist to ever MAME. Why can't this woman just give us a regular, lovely romance? 😂It wasn't bad, at least it was WAY better than Love Sea and Boss & Noeul have definitely improved on their acting, especially Boss. He acted like rent was due. My favorite scenes were with him inside his head. But the story was just so LOL. Well at least the plot twist. At least it was...different? Was it REALLY a parallel universe or just Cir struggling with Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID) due to the constant abuse from his crackhead of a mother and just trying to find his happy place with Phu?
Basically, "The Crazy Shit I Did to Get my Crush to be My Boyfriend Because I Thought I Was Going to Die and Might Not See Him Again" The tags also summarized where the story was headed.
The story started off with this nice fantasy thing going on. Dude came from another world to be with his love, cool. Then when it gets to the climax, BOOM and you're just like....wait...huh?
It was an interesting concept...kinda...sorta. The only fantasy aspect I would say this show had was Jin being able to read minds. Random thing to add to the story, BTW.
I didn't like the other characters except for Jin and Wim. Cir & Phu had THE most useless friend group ever. They really could've done without Aichi and Rome.
Anyways, it was your typical rich/cold man-poor/warm man love story, with rich people problems and terrible parents. The chemistry was FIRE as per usual with BossNoeul.
I swear, whenever these two decide to go their separate ways, it'll be a sad day in BL. You won't find that great onscreen and sexual chemistry like these two have.
I came to be entertained and I was. Loved the soundtrack and the acting was pretty good. It does warrant a re-watch if you're bored a Sunday afternoon I guess.
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BL with Boss and Noeul (。◝‿◜。) but a confusing and poorly written plot (by Mame)
PLOT: Cirrus, the university's star, appears to Pukhan (a sweet and shy student) after a car accident. He reveals that he is his boyfriend from another dimension. Despite his doubts, Pukhan wants to help him, and they gradually become lovers. Pukhan discovers Cirrus's family situation and the life he led with his mother, a crazy woman (abusive, manipulative, toxic +++). However, Cirrus is involved in another accident, and another personality emerges.+++ Boss and Noeul are two fantastic actors, without a doubt, with extraordinary natural chemistry. I regret, however, that their roles are so rigid, preventing them from fully expressing their potential.
+++ The direction does what it can (sets, framing, pacing, etc.) to make a story with this mess.
BUT
### The plot is completely absurd, confusing, and incoherent. I'm OK for discussing about mental health, but… not like this!
And the "other universes" premise doesn't hold water.
### Some characters are walking caricatures (especially the women... A bit of misogyny from the autor ??): the mother, of course, is completely crazy; the fiancée is the same; Tri, the abrupt friend.
=> I'd love to see Boss and Noeul (whom I adore) in a future drama, taking on different roles and with a well-constructed story.
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BL avec Boss & Noeul (。◝‿◜。) but a messy and poorly-written plot (Mame's work)
PLOT: Cirrus, the university star, after un accident de voiture, débarque devant Pukhan (sweet and shy student) pr lui dire qu'il est son boyfriend d'une autre dimension. Malgré ses doutes, Pukhan veut l'aider et ils vont peu à peu devenir lovers. Pukhan va découvrir la situat° familiale de Cirrus et la vie qu'il a mené avec sa crazy mother (abusive, manipulatrice, toxique +++). Cpdt Cirrus a un autre accident et une autre personnalité apparait alors.
+++ Boss & Noeul sont deux acteurs fantastiques, no doubts, et avec une alchimie naturelle extraordinaire. Je regrette un peu que les rôles dans ce couple, soient aussi figés, ne permettant pas aux acteurs de montrer leur potentiel.
+++ La réalis° fait ce qu'elle peut (décors, cadrages, rythme, etc.)
MAIS
### La storyline est complètement perchée, confuse, incohérente. Je veux bien qu'on parle de santé mentale, mais ... pas de cette façon ! Et le contexte "autres univers" ne tient pas la route.
### Certains personnages sont des caricatures ambulantes (en particulier, des femmes ... misogynie ??) : la mère bien sûr, complètement folle ; la fiancée idem ; Tri, l'amie brusque).
=> J'aimerai voir Boss & Noeul (que j'adore) dans un futur drama, assumant des rôles différents et avec une story bien construite
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this was a mess
i don't even know where to start. this was truly a mess. the initial idea was interesting, with parallels worlds and all but the execution? a disaster.let's start with their friends: i loved phu friend's group except for achi, seriously why didn't they drop him is a question i had throughout the whole show. tee, lin and jin were thoughtful, kind and we could see that they really cared about phu. achi? an asshole. a total asshole that didn't care a little bit about his friends, always made rude comments and also at the end he decided to bring phu to cir's fiancée AND HE DIDN'T EVEN SAY SORRY TO PHU.
wim had my heart he carried the show i continued it only thanks to him and jin. he deserved a break tho, poor guy had to run after cir every single moment for all his life.
now about the story: kinda ass with unnecessary drama. the whole fiancée fiasco? totally useless, put only to have a "villain" (a girl, obviously.) other than the mom. the thing with the mom? kinda absurd, the whole time i only had ONE question: why did nobody sue her? she brought a person to suicide, mistreated her sons AND husband and also beaten one of them almost to death more than once and NOBODY DID ANYTHING? the father too is so useless he appeared in the last episode and did NOTHING.
also wdym they resolved the thing with their mom by selling ozone to her and nobody cared too. the scene went:
"i'll go with her cir"
"no ozone you can't"
"don't worry cir it's my choice"
"oh alright".
the end. that was it. nobody cared.
also cir wasn't just in love a lil bit obsessed, he full on stalked phu and that's NOT okay and it's crazy how phu was "oh it's okay you did it because you love me <3" phu that's not how love works.
the thing that KINDA saved this drama? bossnoeul chemistry. also their acting improved since LITA and i think that they should stop giving them always the same roles, noeul always as a cute naive boy and boss as a hot and rude dude (daddy? i think that's the vibe they're trying to give him).
overall i wouldn't recommend this drama to nobody, unless they wanted to see something easy and kinda trash.
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Great show but like any, has it's negatives (deserves a better rating though)
Giving my thoughts and opinions if you care to read itOverall I give this show a 8.7/10, but on here I'll give it an 8.5
Things I didn't like:
1. Other things are less important and really take off like 0.1 points but this takes the cake and is my biggest critique. I don't know why they thought the resolution with the mom was good enough because it really just wasn't. That wretch does not deserve to get her way, she honestly belongs in jail or in H- E- L -L. Zone should have never "sacrificed" himself and neither should the father. I even started to feel bad for Prae cause I feel like you can tell she really liked Cir when the mom was going and talking crazy, She wasn't just in it for money or status. Its almost offensive how the show dealt with this clear abuse and slavery. Like I'm still mad that they did that.
2. The point above plays into this but I didn't like how everyone made their lives centered around Phu and Cir. For example, it makes no sense for Wim to be that obsessed and involved in Cir's life nor for Jin to pick his entire friend group because of the love and care they have for Phu. Like that don't even make sense. I do like how characters like Rome and Aichi's world didn't revolve around the main characters.
3. Wim's character wasn't done right. I don't know why they tried to make it seem like he was so annoying and invested in Cir's life because he felt responsible for knowing everything since everyone asked him everything. I think they should have either went with him liking Cir (which I think could have been played really well where Jin kinda hates Cir because he knows Wim likes him and he likes Wim and then getting Wim to choose him instead of being hung up on Cir) or they should have tied it back to the trauma that they experienced and how Wim feels like he needs to protect Cir b/c he has no one to do so. But Wim was very whiny and always complaining about something and also I don't get his quells with Jin and why he was so put off by him but whatever.
4. The pacing was a bit fast at the beginning ngl. Like some of the things Cir did or said to Phu eve though he said he didn't want to make Phu uncomfortable was just a bit much. Also there was a lot of sappy overly cheesy moments and dialogue. I like that stuff every now and then but sometimes it was a bit much. Especially when they kept singing that song. Now I'm a person who loves Love in the Air and the scene where Payu sings to Rain in the kitchen is one of my favorite bl scenes of all time but I feel like they tried to recreate that bit but failed. It just came off as unnecessary and turned me off lol.
5. I don't get why Aichi never apologized cause he definitely needed to and I think that would have shown more of how he values his friendship. Speaking of which I understand sometimes why Tee was mean to Aichi but other times she just talked about him so bad I was confused as to why or if they're even friends. Like she would treat Aichi as if he is scum.
6. Probably my third biggest complaint after the mom and Wim but I'm not sure why they didn't speak the parralel world thing outloud. There were so many perfect times for Cir to explain what he was going through and he just never did. And it very much did matter to explain to Phu. Also Ji's character knew that he wasn't lying but just confused and never explained it to Cir, to Phu, or even to Wim which disappointed me.
Im sorry for all the negative but I did overall really like this show, here's some positives
1. To be very shallow and honest, the cast was so attractive *sigh*. Especially Rome and Jin, they had no business being that fine!
2. Boss and Nouel have really been studying the art of acting. Especially Boss! I felt tis show was the perfect way for him to show his versatility and he's improved so much. There were some overly sappy scenes but I think that was the writer's and director's fault. He was brilliant in this.
3. I think the explanation of how the parallel world isn't really them transcending time and space but more so getting glimpses of each other's lives and the value of Phu. I think this was done so well and made me proud, but like before they should have actually spoken it out. Cause we and supposedly Jin know the truth but no one else does and that pmo.
4. Sooooo many cute moments! I dont even know which are my favorites. And the NC scenes were done really well. I loved how the first few were making out or blowjobs, much more realistic as most relationships will build up to sex and not just have sex right away lol.
Anyways, that's my review. I really liked the show even better than Love in the Air. Im excited for the special ep though cause I'm invested in the other world's love story now
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Is the multiverse.. real?
You can dissociate the idea that MAME came up with this story when you first start it because by all means, why not?! Come on! I did it! It completely slipped my mind that this is a MAME series before I started it because there seemed to be an actual story and I was enjoying it, coming up with theories, basically having fun with it even if a lot of it didn't make much sense.Then I watched episode five and I couldn't delude myself anymore. This is a MAME production alright because those ten or so cliches in every one of her series became more and more prominent. The things that previously didn't make any sense suddenly felt like such obvious clues to the twist in that episode and I couldn't do it any longer, I could no longer make that dissociation.
For a couple of episodes after that the story dragged on a bit before it picked up again and I was once again shocked that an actual semblance of a story was present in a MAME production but again, so were all the clichés and toxic characters and behaviour. It's like a pattern, and if you have noticed the events in that pattern, you know they're genuinely atrocious.
Which is where my problem with the series lies. The premise of the story and the latter few twists, in retrospect, were actually pretty good. They felt like a fresh take on the genre (I'm surprising myself writing these words), but there was that one plot point, that one twist that kind of cheapened the entire story. It was a good twist, I won't lie, it caught me off guard and I was shocked and angry at it, and now it's just a bitter aftertaste.
That twist then shifted things not only in the rest of the story, but also in the romance and the dynamics between all the characters. Which was a pity because Boss and Neoul had good chemistry, and the series would have benefited a bit more if the focus had been on them and certain other supporting characters rather than the ones they actually focused on. Even with the good chemistry, the dynamics in the romance changed with the twists in the story and the viewing experience felt hot and cold.
The brightest spot in the series for me was the second couple. They didn't have much screentime together, but even individually they stole the show and I loved their energy as a couple and as individuals. Especially Jin. My sweet cloud photo taking prince, I loved his character.
After all that buildup, let me just say this isn't some mind altering series. It's stupid and fun and sometimes very inappropriate but it's not going to change the landscape of dramas about parellel/multiple universes. You go into it prepared for some amount of absolute nonsense and maybe like me, come out of it liking it a bit more than you thought you would.
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The "Mother" is going straight to hell.
I have to say that they seriopsly need to make a 2nd season for the other world, with parts into this one, otherwise what was the point of the other Cir coming to his world? As for coming back to this one... well they need to o something about the so called "Mother" to save the little brother. Cir talked about doing something before the dad and brother came up with thier plan, so now it's time to go through with it for the brothers sake. Plus we need to know why it's just Cir who goes to other worlds and no one else, also need more of JinWim!Ok, on to the review of what ever you want to call this 😄... I would have given this more stars, but it left to many thing unawsered in the end. What I said at top are the main ones, but there are a few more... If they made this a bit longer they could have point more to it so there wouldn't have been soi many things that need anwsering. I still liked it, just would have liked it more with more to it.
I wasn't sure about Jin at frist, he was a bit odd, I couldn't really get him, though it didn't mean I didn't like him, but after seeing him more I thought it was sweet, even though he could read thoughts. I loved how he always smiled when he was with Wim. Wim was like a breath of fresh air for Jin and it showed. Though Wim didn't see it that way. lol
The whole fiance thing came out of nowhere. I get the whole thing before look at Cir "mother" but it just made no since as to why she came at that time? Cir no being Cir didn't help anything at all there either. Though I am glad for Phu's friend he told the bitch fiance off when she tried to slap Phu. Though if I was her I would have slapped the bitch first then told her off.
On to the NC scenes, now they where hot for what they where. I liked how they made the moans unlike just about every NC scene in BLs. Though some peple made them out to be way more then what they were, now I can't say I didn't like them because I did, especially Phu going down on Cir. 😳🔥
All in all, this was a good show, it's just missing some anwsers. So here is to having a season 2 with more Cir/Phu and JinWim with a whole lot of anwsers for us!
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Great Chemistry And Visuals, Terrible Plot
I’m kind of disappointed with the plot, even though I have to admit I had some fun watching the drama overall. I definitely skipped a few scenes that felt unnecessary or dragged out, but there were parts that were really entertaining too. The whole parallel world premiere idea had so much potential, and I was genuinely looking forward to where the story could go. It could have been something really great if it had been written better, but they just had to ruin it with that plot twist.So here’s what happens. Cir gets into an accident and wakes up claiming he’s from another world. He says that in that world he’s Phu’s boyfriend. At first, this sounds interesting, even a bit romantic in a weird sci-fi way. He knows everything about Phu, his favorite food, his habits, tiny little details that would make sense if he really was his boyfriend in another universe. But then they decide to hit us with the twist: he’s not from another world at all. He’s just a stalker. All that knowledge about Phu? Not because of some deep soul connection across worlds. Just years of watching him. It honestly threw me off.
Are we supposed to root for Cir after that? Because I couldn’t. I tried, but that kind of manipulation just isn’t something I can overlook, especially in a romance. And Phu being so naive didn’t help either. He’s sweet and innocent and it felt like Cir was taking full advantage of that. The dynamic shifts from romantic to uncomfortable once you realize what’s actually going on. This kind of twist might have worked in a psychological thriller or even a crime drama. I would have loved it there. But in a love story? It just made me feel uneasy. Stalking isn’t romantic. It’s creepy. And trying to pass it off as passion or devotion just feels wrong.
I know Cir’s mom was terrible and did so many horrible things, but just because your mom is a bxtch doesn’t mean you’re justified to be one too. Traumatic upbringing doesn’t give anyone a free pass to manipulate others. That part of his character might’ve added depth if it had been handled with more nuance, but here it just felt like an excuse to excuse his behavior.
And I kind of didn’t care about the side characters. I’m pretty sure the writer didn’t either. The friends and second couple were clearly thrown in for comic relief, but they didn’t relieve any comedy. It all felt forced and flat. Also, can we talk about Ozone for a second? He’s Cir’s brother who just randomly appears so Cir can freely be weirdly obsessed with Phu , and then they leave him with the mom at the end like that’s totally fine? What was that?
That said, I’m not going to lie. The chemistry between Cir and Phu was undeniable. There were so many cute and spicy moments that really worked if you could forget about the whole manipulation thing for a second. Their interactions had a kind of natural spark to them, and I found myself enjoying a lot of their scenes together despite everything. It’s one of those rare cases where the actors manage to carry the emotional weight even when the writing doesn’t support it.
The one thing that really stood out, though, was the production value. The cinematography was beautiful. There were so many visually striking scenes that I kept noticing throughout the series. One of my favorites was the contrast between the warm orange and cold blue lighting in their apartments during episode three. It was such a pretty and subtle way of showing the differences between their lives and emotional states. The color grading was just really well done in general. And the camera work felt intentional, not just point and shoot. Even the song choices added a lot of emotion to the scenes. The NSFW moments were surprisingly well shot too. Not over the top, but still intimate and engaging.
Overall, I wouldn’t say it was a bad watch. I was entertained, and there were definitely elements that kept me engaged. But the story could have been so much better. There was so much potential in the parallel world setup and they wasted it on a twist that just made everything uncomfortable. If they had leaned into the sci-fi element or given us a real reason to root for Cir without making him a stalker, this could have been something special. But unfortunately, it just ended up being another story that almost got there but didn’t quite stick the landing.
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Content with a dash of confusion
This ended up being way better than I expected. A lot of the reviews had me prepared for a major disappointment but this was quite an enjoyable watch.Acting:
Our boys did a pretty damn good job with this series. Boss put on a good performance in every version of Cir that he played and Noeul played Phu well too. Supporting cast were also pretty solid. The mom was a bit meh but that was probably due to the writing/story and not the actress, necessarily.
Writing:
Way better than I had expected overall. I really enjoyed this story with the exception of the whole mom plot which was pretty poorly done and didn’t really make sense. There were definitely some cringe moments in here, but I can live with a couple of those. I really enjoyed the whole main plot, though with the parallel worlds and whatnot. I do think that there were a couple things that had me scratching my head. Like, why didn’t Cir just explain everything to Phu earlier? And why did Phu dream of the other world in episode 1 as well? The whole switching “properties” thing was so dumb and unrealistic. Like, what in the world was that? If you’re gonna have an evil mom I need her to either get her just deserts or change for the better in the end, not whatever this was…
Chemsitry/Romance/Kissing:
Boss and Noeul got MAD chemistry. Just so damn good all around. This for sure works well as a romance. The kissing was really well done throughout the series. They didn’t starve us for affection between the main couple which I greatly appreciate in a romance.
NC Scenes:
HOHOHOHOHOLY GOOD GOD MY BOYS. I’ve said it before and I will say it again, these two outshine porn stars fr. Good lord… I thought that Love in the Air was wild, these guys said hold my mf beer and stepped it the fuck UPPP. 1000000000/10 so sensual and passionate, my jaw was on the FLOOR and I was BLUSHINGGG as a grown ass adult. The scenes also shaped the mood of the story in regards to their relationship pretty well. I also thought they were written, directed/shot, and edited so well. Just damn good work out there, everyone.
Production/Cinematography:
Love love loved the lighting decisions in this show. The warm v cold added a lot to some of the shots. I also liked the change in filter for the different worlds we were being shown. Production was awesome all around.
Music/SFX:
Music was alright. I’m not really one for songs with lyrics in serious scenes, though. SFX were pretty solid throughout.
This was honestly such a good watch even with its flaws. Partially due to Boss and Noeul doing such a good job, but also the plot had me too for the most part. Although I want them to do whatever their hearts desire in their careers and lives, I also selfishly want 50 more series featuring Boss and Noeul together on screen forever and ever and ever.
Now, for some highlights from my notes:
- Oooh a solid intro love to see it
- Stonks
- Oooh that blue v orange lighting that warm v cold that shit is good I like that
- Rainy weather x BossNoeul otp lmao
- The whole illeism thing in Thai language has my heart it’s so cute
- I’m usually annoyed by an innocent cutesy character but Phu is real cute
- Like, I see people complaining about him having stuffed animals/figures and being whiny but like same so whatever plus he’s supposed to be like 19-20 so calm down
- ONCE AGAIN I would love to hear the boundaries convo between BossNoeul and the intimacy coordinator bc HOLY SHIT BRO they are WILD 10000/10
- Gotta pause to take that all in lmaoooo I’m blushinggggg AHHHHH EEEEE
- Not sure if I could get my freak on with all those labubus watching me tho
- The cinematography has me bro
- Wait.. hold up, my guy
- Sooooo my boy a stalker frfr uhhhh… okay okay, let me take that in…
- Baby is embarrassed by a lil peck when the other night that same mouth was on his co-
- Baby loves a cardigan and his boy loves a Canadian tuxedo
- Bros always about them STONKKSSS
- Oh myyyyyy shit SENSUAL calm DOWN boy that was quite the little tease
- NOT THE PROLONGED BOSS SINGING MOMENT PT II I thought I escaped this after Love in the Air
- CAN YOU TEACH ME??????? OH MY GOOOOODDDDD
- OKAY PAUSE YA’LL ARE WILLLLDDDDDDD TENS ACROSS THE BOARD WTF
- I’m BLUSHINGGGGGG JESUS CHRIST YOU GUYS
- WHAT THE FUUCKCKKKCKCKCKCK
- 100000000000000/10
- JUST TELL BABY
- Imma glaze past that flute scene… We couldn’t have hit him with like a Chopin Nocturne op. 9 no. 2 in E flat major or maybe a Bach Partita in A minor or some shit…
- Well shit baby, that did it for you, huh? Get it ig
- HOLY SHIT NOEUL YOU KILL ME EVERY TIME, THE MOANS??!?!?!?!?!??
- YA’LL ARE CRAAAAAZZZYYYYY
- 10000000000000000000000000000000000/10
- Post-nut devastation is new
- I can taste the CTE coming from this Cir fella
- Sooooooo there ARE mutiple Cirs..? But like…?
- Hit bro with a car again ig?
- *You would find me at the beach in every life, through every door* *If I could hold you for a minute, I'd go through it again. I would still be surprised I could find you, darlin', in any life. If I could hold you for a minute, I would do it again. I would not change it each time. Heaven is not fit to house a love like you and I* *I would die a thousand times just to see you in another life* *If you rewrite your life, may I still play a part? In the next one, will you find me? I'll be the boy with the pink carnation pinned to my lapel. Who looks like hell and asks for help. And if you do, I'll know it's you*
- This shit isn’t bad why are people hating so much I’m liking the premise more than I expected
- Boss half-updo makes its return
- TEEE A BADDIEEEE FR
- My baby always got hyper-specific playlist at the ready for every mood and situation 10/10
- Boy always remembers them STONKS in every life LMAOOO
- I mean like he didn’t ENTIRELY lie
- Ya’ll are both people what are we talking about
- I wanted to see this woman’s world burn down around her
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had potential
started watching because of the show’s theme song and I didn’t expect much.Tbh I like it more than love in the air (it had more plot) like their characters more (Noel character isn’t whiny as in love in the air and loved that boss cried) but felt like their could show more, like why Cir is in that while room each time? when was the first time it happened? why it happened? is the first Cir did it because something happened? they even dropped a hint as the Cir in the while room said I hoped this time they get a happy ending, when they weren’t ? I wished they showed th point of it and how it started, I feel like it’s a huge plot hole. like even the special is about that parallel universe that started in the show but why not show the first one? a bit disappointing.
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Intriguing
Boy Next World was a highly anticipated BL drama for its intriguing premise of alternative universes. It is praised for its cinematography and use of creative angles, colors and beautifully designed sets. The casting list delivered with strong performances in all scene types. The Boy Next World is criticized for its screenplay due to lack of follow-through on established rules and themes. Some viewers mentioned the fact that questionable character decisions and underdeveloped backstories tied with a rushed ending were some reasons the series fell short.Out Server Poll resulted in an overall average score of 7.5/10. This is an aggregated review from the BL Shia community. Want to know more and have your voice heard? Join us in Discord: https://discord.gg/zDynbwQpP4 and come talk about it!
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